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MDPV Megathread 8: The Girl Who Chased The Dragon's Tail

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Good on you for never IVing! I can't believe I ever made that jump but after I wrecked my car and got a 2nd DUI my life felt hopeless. I didn't care what happened to me and was willing to explore drug addiction at it's deepest level I guess. Mdpv was so bad to IV because you'd be pricking your veins so fucking much. It's been around 2 years since I went down that road, I'm really lucky and glad I didn't trash my veins. I *usually* was very careful but mdpv had a habit of making me careless with everything and the needle was unfortunately the same.

Vaping is pretty close in terms of rush and addictiveness though I must say. Unfortunately, I find vaping these PV stims to be plagued with seemingly toxic side effects. I want to vape the apvp I've got coming but I think it's back to bumping for a while. Though I really should just flush it down the fucking toilet :p
 
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QuasiStoned said:
Good on you for never IVing! I can't believe I ever made that jump but after I wrecked my car and got a 2nd DUI my life felt hopeless. I didn't care what happened to me and was willing to explore drug addiction at it's deepest level I guess. Mdpv was so bad to IV because you'd be pricking your veins so fucking much. It's been around 2 years since I went down that road, I'm really lucky and glad I didn't trash my veins. I *usually* was very careful but mdpv had a habit of making me careless with everything and the needle was unfortunately the same.

Vaping is pretty close in terms of rush and addictiveness though I must say. Unfortunately, I find vaping these PV stims to be plagued with seemingly toxic side effects. I want to vape the apvp I've got coming but I think it's back to bumping for a while. Though I really should just flush it down the fucking toilet :p
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I used to love vaporizing mdpv more than anything. Now that i think about, I believe I was more addicted to the act of vaporizing mdpv than anything else. Like I stated before, I nearly lost everything to my addiction to mdpv during the first two years of my use. Nowadays, I cannot vaporize the tinniest speck of mdpv dust without experiencing psychotic effects. Strange because I can snort, IM or plug incredibly high doses and manage fine but cannot handle vaporizing mdpv well at any dosage (I sure do miss enjoying this route too in a bittersweet way too).

I noticed you said you experience toxic side effects from vaporization. I wonder if we have developed some type of sensitivity to certain aspects of these Chems from prolonged/excessive exposure. The act of vaporizing these Chems might actually be changing the pharmacodynamics and perhaps some people experience desensitization to certain effects over time.

I've gotten very very very close to IVing mdpv too many times to count. I've had the syringe loaded with a solution containing mdpv and the needle pressed up against my skin (without actually puncturing anything) numerous times. I've chicken out every time and I'm so glad. A growing part of me never wants to find out what it is like to IV something because I know that would very likely be the beginning of the end while a part of me has always been insanely curious.
 
Yeah it's so weird with the vaping, it's like I used to think that vaping was degrading into more euphoric by-products but nowadays it seems like the less I degrade apvp the better it is. Vaping seems so rough on my body these days, like my kidneys feel heavy immediately after vaping or something. I also notice that the tips of my fingers and toes get really sore/sensitive moreso with this route than any other. By far the most bizarre side effect that I get from vaping are persistent nosebleeds. I can snort the stuff right into the sinus cavity without any issues but almost everytime I vape I'll blow my nose and there will be blood and it won't stop bleeding, it's kind of scary. I never get nosebleeds and never have anytime throughout my life, only when I vaped pv stims.

What I find interesting is that I read about a study when rats were exposed to pyrrolidine vapor, they experienced sore paws and red nasal discharge. Pretty much the same side effects I noticed. I'd be willing to place a wager that vaping mdpv and apvp releases a lot of pyrrolidine vapor and it's really, by all accounts, a very nasty chemical. It causes really high blood pressure, and kidney and liver abnormalities. I think that the "zoned out" feeling and uncomfortable comedown is also related to pyrrolidine. I suspect this because when mdpv and apvp are metabolized, the pyrrolidine is released from the structure of the chemical and able to exert it's rather nasty effects.

If anyone cares, the studies are pretty easy to find for both the toxicity of pyrrolidine and the metabolism route of mdpv and apvp. I'd supply links but I'm on a really shitty phone.
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Here's a lot of info on pyrrolidine. It's nasty stuff
PYRROLIDINE - National Library of Medicine HSDB Database http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+120
 
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One EU site which i also use also has no MDPV on the list.... Better pay those last orders i made with mdpv now so i'm safe for a while. How wierd...
 
TheProfessor1 said:
Pre-heat the oven to 180 degrees, or the lowest 'warm' setting. Dissolve a half a gram of PV in an 8th to a 4th a cup of regular tap water, as fully disolved as you can get it, then place into a glass casserole dish like pirex or the equivelant, and put it in the oven.
After a few hours (doesnt take very long) all the water evaporates. What you are left with is a hard, toffee-like substance that you scrape up with a razor-blade, then chop or mash it up into fine tan crystally goodness. It smokes better, runs better, plugs better, smells like semen, and is far better than what you put in.
Its really that simple. Just dissolve it, then evaporate the water at 180-200 degrees. Make sure you scrape it up after ALL the water has evaporated, while its still warm, or it might collect moisture from the air and it'll go all gooey on you, then you just need to heat again and re-scrape. Piece of cake.
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Professor, am I correct in assuming that because you are a man of science the above temperatures are in centigrade and not that quaint old Fahrenheit system that is still in use by some poor unenlightened souls? I'm keen to give this a try but don't want to stuff it up by turning the heat up too high. Thanks
 
Regarding the fact that mdpv seems to be vanishing from vendors menus more and more:

MDPV is getting harder and harder to come by it seems. Even when it can be found its often times hit or miss in terms of quality. Maybe its just the places I know of? Been digging deep lately and only finding dead ends and dissapointment. Grrrr.

I sure miss the days when it was widely available for dirt cheap. Like right before it got banned here in the states for example.

I've seen 4-meo-pvp popping up as a replacement to mdpv. Anyone get the chance to test any? Wonder if it really makes a good substitute. I am extremely skeptical of anything touted as an mdpv replacement due to every single product advertised as such (since right after the ban) being nothing but extremely dissapointing. A-pvp and A-pbp were close but something about them didn't "do it" for me. MDPPP, aPPP, MHPH, 4mePPP, MDPBP were all dissapointing to me as well (though i suspect some of these werent actually what they were what they were sold to me as)

Then there are things like EPH, MPH and all of the x-FA and x-FMC Chems. Some of them are excellent stims but none of them quite hit the spot for this mdpv fool.

Desoxypipradol has been the one and only other stim I actually enjoy besides mdpv but using it is just asking for trouble so I only dabble every once in awhile.

Hoping 4-meo-pvp turns out to be a viable substitute but the lack of enthusiasm over it tells me not to expect much (although it is extremely new and uncommon)
 
Been at this (using mdpv) for way way too long. A word to the wise who may be contemplating taking what may actually be powderized alien sperm for all we know (more accurately its likely pure evil but in powder form):

Don't. Just don't. For fucks sake just dont. Its only fun and enjoyable as a memory. While doing it you're actually miserable (unless looking at porn or engaging in sexual activity). You'll find yourself coming back to it long after you've decided enough is enough.

Just don't.
 
Sounds like you are in a bad place, I sympathize and know how you feel. It can end and you can stop, I never thought I'd ever be able to stop even though I was only experiencing negative effects and was alienating everyone around me. But I did and so can you. Took me getting into some trouble before the penny dropped but I'm free and all the better for it. (Not saying MDPV is evil just that I'm not the type that can use it responsibly)

An ex-addict (not MDPV) said to me once when I asked him why I couldn't give it up: 'because the consequences aren't bad or real enough yet'.

I wish you all the very best and prey it doesn't take something terrible to happen for you to find release from this. <3<3<3
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
Been at this (using mdpv) for way way too long. A word to the wise who may be contemplating taking what may actually be powderized alien sperm for all we know (more accurately its likely pure evil but in powder form):

Don't. Just don't. For fucks sake just dont. Its only fun and enjoyable as a memory. While doing it you're actually miserable (unless looking at porn or engaging in sexual activity). You'll find yourself coming back to it long after you've decided enough is enough.

Just don't.
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Yeah. I hate that about MDPV. Grass is always greener.

When I think about PV, I'm like 'ahhh...God it felt good to chase the dragon. I'd love to do that again'. But then I think about what I did after that; I was unable to do anything normally, be it drawing, making music, chatting on facebook, etc. I wasn't able to enjoy myself through any of the things I usually get enjoyment from due to the fact that I was unable to do anything competently at all.
 
I keep on toying with the idea of getting myself some of this, though it seems like every time I'm about to buy some a warning post pops up in this thread.

Maybe I'll make the mistake one of these days.
 
Ben So Furry said:
Sounds like you are in a bad place, I sympathize and know how you feel. It can end and you can stop, I never thought I'd ever be able to stop even though I was only experiencing negative effects and was alienating everyone around me. But I did and so can you. Took me getting into some trouble before the penny dropped but I'm free and all the better for it. (Not saying MDPV is evil just that I'm not the type that can use it responsibly)

An ex-addict (not MDPV) said to me once when I asked him why I couldn't give it up: 'because the consequences aren't bad or real enough yet'.

I wish you all the very best and prey it doesn't take something terrible to happen for you to find release from this. <3<3<3
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"because the consequences arent bad enough"

You are absolutely right and I shudder realizing this. I am a very soft spoken, easy going and compantionate person to be around. Ive been told I put others needs before my own far more than I should. I am a people pleaser. I am as easy going and understanding as humans go (i hope anyways).

Obviously this doesnt make me a good person but I strive to be one. I always do what I feel is right. I sacrafice myself for everyone around me. I hope and pray that someway somehow I find my way through this without consequences severe enough to destroy me (and I dont just mean death either). I have little ones that depend on me.

And yes, I am in a very bad place and have been for a long long time. I need help beyond anything I can do for myself. I know what needs to be done, I know how to do what needs to be done... I just cant find the inner strength, commitement and hope needed to take the next step.

Too much pain. It honestly doesnt seem worth it. I know its selfish of me to not go get help for my little ones' sake but the way I see it is that getting help is pointless because I will be back to using again. History has shown me that. I know my myself and my problems well enough to know that.

I need to address whatever underlying issues exsist. I'm not sure what that is. Considering hypnosis to help me come to terms but Im scared. There is something very dark and painful deep down inside of me and Im scared to discover what that darkness is hiding.

Albion said:
Yeah. I hate that about MDPV. Grass is always greener.

When I think about PV, I'm like 'ahhh...God it felt good to chase the dragon. I'd love to do that again'. But then I think about what I did after that; I was unable to do anything normally, be it drawing, making music, chatting on facebook, etc. I wasn't able to enjoy myself through any of the things I usually get enjoyment from due to the fact that I was unable to do anything competently at all.
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I used to be like that: I used to be awkward and retarded when high on mdpv. These days I dont get high from the stuff. I get normal. I need the shit just to function. I dont sleep right without it. I cant get out of bed without it. Cant eat. Cant function. You get the idea.

I am also on opiate replacement therapy and have been for years (without relapse after battling opiate addiction for almost 10 years). I use mdpv like I use my suboxone. It just gets me through the day and keeps me from desiring any other drugs. I feel like I live a normal life but deep down inside I am insanely depressed, alone, paranoid and ashamed.

Im talking to much. This is all too personal. This is not the place for this either (other than hopefully to persuade somebody else not to ever touch mdpv). I have been talking via PM to another well established member (mod) here lately as well. I have never opened up like this before but its helping. And maybe its helping me begin to take steps in the right direction.

Thanks for listening.
 
Man this thread had taken a depressing turn :(

Sort it out, fellow fiendz. T'ain't that fukkin bad. Using any drug to blot shit out is the biggest problem with any of 'em. Peev has the added bonus of sending yer batshit in excess admittedly...

Have also noticed it's getting harder and harder to source. Still got a coupla sites listing it but dunno 'bout quality as I'm skint at the moment and have been for quite some considerable time. And probably will be for the forseeable :\

Massive pisser. But also goes to show it's a whole nother world compared with strong opiates, crack, methamphet/proper speed and the ilk. Now those are drugs I genuinely have considered robbing grannies for. It'd never cross me addled mind to do shit like that for a bag o' peev even though the fiend is beyond insane. It passes.

In perkier news, have heard a whisper I may be getting a freebie sample from a fiend from elsewhere than here. Will let y'all know if I do. I miss the stuff more than a murdered child.

And fukkin cheer up, y'all. Nothing is that bad. Nothing that can be fixed anyway. And it can all be fixed if you want it too <3
 
Shambles said:
Man this thread had taken a depressing turn :(
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Yes, but it is also informative. Compared to other threads, MDPV threads include a lot of talk surrounding addiction. This is a good indicator of qualities to be cautious of.

This doesn't put me off trying, but does put me on greater guard. Thanks to everyone who is sharing - & good luck.
 
One of the best things about the peev thread is that it shows the effects of the drug very clearly to anybody reading it. But for those of us that love the stuff it's nice to add a lil levity on occasion to cut through the tales of woe. Obviously the risks need to be made clear but is nice to see the fun side of the stuff too now and then. Moral of the story: don't read the peev thread when drunk and a-hankering for a toot or twelve ;)

YoYo: I wish :D
 
well my two former best mates are still taking mdpv regularly.they live a fair bit away from me so i dont see them often but have constant fone contact.get lies mostly which i hate..how they have cut down and are giving it a rest tonight :-P rite why bother lieing to me i always get the truth lol.
they say they hate it..but they keep going back to it. not interested in mdma or amt at all just their beloved pv.
i hate seeing them go so downhill....its bollox they are sinking into the abyss and wont seem to catch on..
what can ye do
 
Very little you can do really imo. Sometimes people really do need to find out for themselves. And even then it's no guarantee of making more sensible decisions in future :\

I would maybe suggest to them to read through the peev threads from beginning to end at some point though. Is fairly standard procedure for many fiends in the early(ish) stages of use anyway. Certainly do get the warts and all version.
 
So i got the PV nose spray :p lol

Have you tried it? It works charming just in nose, or wherever. Nothing wierd at all. Just spray it on your cigarette if you want a peeve cig. I used 100 mg PV and 10 ml NaCl. So 10 mg /ml, but one spray ain't 1 ml.

Any idea on how fast pv in this will degree`? If it's stored in nacl inside a regular nosespray bottle in the refridge?

PV cigarette <3
 
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