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Benzos Etizolam Mega Thread v1

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RobotRipping said:
yes eyeballing any benzo is stupid unless its diazepam.
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How exactly is diazepam an exception? If anything, eyeballing diazepam would be dangerous as your accidental excessive dose will be active for a lot longer than most other benzos. Sure, it's easier to eyeball 10mg than 1mg, but it's still not something I'd recommend.
 
Psychonauticunt said:
How exactly is diazepam an exception? If anything, eyeballing diazepam would be dangerous as your accidental excessive dose will be active for a lot longer than most other benzos. Sure, it's easier to eyeball 10mg than 1mg, but it's still not something I'd recommend.
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If you are going for a 1mg dose of etiz and overshoot by 5mg, you will ingest 6mg of etizolam. Effectively making you 6 times more affected than you expected to be.

If you are going for 20mg of diazepam and overshoot by 5 mg you will be 1.25 times as affected. It basically has a much larger margin for error. I wouldn't think twice about eyeballing diazepam doses.
 
i wouldnt recommend it that wasn't my point lol, just that you can't eyeball etizolam.
 
onetwonine said:
If you are going for a 1mg dose of etiz and overshoot by 5mg, you will ingest 6mg of etizolam. Effectively making you 6 times more affected than you expected to be.

If you are going for 20mg of diazepam and overshoot by 5 mg you will be 1.25 times as affected. It basically has a much larger margin for error. I wouldn't think twice about eyeballing diazepam doses.
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Obviously.
But how accurate are you at eyeballing? If you're accurate to the closest 10mg or similar, then sure, go ahead - and congrats, that's some serious eyeballing skills.
I would maybe trust myself to get it to the nearest 50mg. If I'd already weighed out 10mg and looked and made a mental note of how much that was, I'd do it, but I'd still do it initially with a scale. I can generally eyeball powders to around 100mg (and am usually not off by much) but I'd rather use a scale even for diazepam, because while 20-30mg too much might not be a drastic difference, that can still be the difference between a recreational dose and a blackout dose.
 
Psychonauticunt said:
Obviously.

I would maybe trust myself to get it to the nearest 50mg. If I'd already weighed out 10mg and looked and made a mental note of how much that was, I'd do it, but I'd still do it initially with a scale. I can generally eyeball powders to around 100mg (and am
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I'm pretty sure I could eyeball 100mg pretty accurately because of the endless times i have bought various powders that came in points.

I have scales that would easily measure 100mg accurately, I'm pretty sure almost everyone does.

You couldn't just divide up the pile from there? There will be some error, but with something like diazepam, there's a fair amount of room for error.

Anyway, I'm done arguing about a mythical diazepam powder that AFAIK doesn't even exist. Not even sure what my point was.
 
robo your a crybaby. when i realized the mistake i made, i put my stash away. sounds like you have a drug habit?
 
Ugh horrible experience with this ended up going to the ER overdosing on them and heroin. A new years eve never to forger
 
aphex sounds like you're being a bit of a cry baby tpbh IMO and IME. Yeah i have a drug dependency that's for sure, drug habit ? i dunno. bit of an ad hom attack though isn't it?
 
so I blacked out for the whole of yesterday, waking up this morning thinking TODAY was my day off...work called and they weren't too happy. This stuff comes on subtly strong indeed.
 
Tolerance builds fast on this one! Can take 30 mg and not blink an eye. A little sleepy, relaxed. Yes, taper time. And I found last time these were way easier to kick than broad spectrum benzos. Also, there might be some sort of ceiling dose due to it's selectively for the alpha2 subunit, as I have found increasing the dose at these tolerance levels doesn't do much, except give me w weird serotonin head pinging (yes it does effect serotonin) and RLS, which I am guessing is due to the prolactin release at those levels inhibiting dopamine. But who knows. These are Intas. Benzo tapers suck, and so does withdrawal, but the novelty has worn off. Let's hope it was as easy as last time. I have a benzo history, and 3 days of clonazepam or diazepam gives me bad withdrawals. Thus far, etizolam has been COMPARATIVELY benign. But that was a CT off 10 mg a day months ago. Not great, but not the usual BZD WD hell. We'll see!
 
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30mg? whattt

how do you live with yourself, do you people who take ridiculous amounts of benzo drugs remember anything of your life? no offense or anything just it seems very sad :(
 
^^thats what im wondering..i have been taking etiz since last spring, on and off and if i take 3 mgs over the course of an evening, my memory is pretty fuzzy..i can remember bits and pieces but thats it..i cant imagine even staying awake on over 5 mgs let alone 30 mgs..i understand tolerance but man, are these guys that are taking these megadoses just taking it and then sitting slumped over in a chair all night long??i dont see how you could be functional on doses that high..nor do i understand what could be enjoyable about it..
 
I think there are people here trying to deal with anxiety and/or addiction. I'm only experimenting with etiz for the kicks & so far, finding it dull. I barely feel 1mg. Another mg a few hours later is the same, then if I take any more I'm sleepy. Boring. I'll just be keeping it around to take the edge off the stims I have.
 
^^i take etizolam to chill out, for a nice relaxing night or to relieve moderate anxiety..i dont take it for recreational value as it ranks pretty low on that chart..it has a very mild mood lift to it but nothing that makes you high...i thnk everyone that takes etiz or benzo has some sort of anxiety issue but the insanely high dosages we see people talking about here makes me think they just want a complete escape from life itself lol..
 
^robo...why on earth would i eyeball 10 mg amounts when i have a scale for that. i was talking about eyeballing a weighed pile of 10mg, which is cake work. i thought you were cooler than that, but you seem like a buzzkill in real life. i feel sorry for the people who get high with you, if there are any.

i just wanted to say, its standard to take 3mg of etizolam even without a tolerance to get full effect. people are reading 1 mg etizolam = 1 mg xanax, which we all know to be false. xanax is even a better sleep aid (imo)

^and robo i never called or even referred to you as a crybaby, but you obviously are. id appreciate if you stopped trolling me and trying to discredit my novel advice. -aphex
 
i don't think it's standard at all to take 3 mg of etizolam with no tolerance to feel the effects, that's just not necessary, though i suppose it depends on what sort of effects you're after. i've read and do believe from empirical experience that more like 1 mg etizolam = 0.5 mg xanax is a better conversion factor to use, though xanax definitely feels like a stronger hypnotic to me at any dose.
 
Aphex747 said:
^robo...why on earth would i eyeball 10 mg amounts when i have a scale for that. i was talking about eyeballing a weighed pile of 10mg, which is cake work. i thought you were cooler than that, but you seem like a buzzkill in real life. i feel sorry for the people who get high with you, if there are any.

i just wanted to say, its standard to take 3mg of etizolam even without a tolerance to get full effect. people are reading 1 mg etizolam = 1 mg xanax, which we all know to be false. xanax is even a better sleep aid (imo)

^and robo i never called or even referred to you as a crybaby, but you obviously are. id appreciate if you stopped trolling me and trying to discredit my novel advice. -aphex
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i was just giving my experience eyeballing from 250-500mg bags of etizolam. If you have 10mg already weighed, then yeah you can split that up easy enough if you have a tolernace. Etizolam has effects at .5mg so it's still not advisable. With no tolerance you should not eyeball even 10mg already weighed, it's just reckless. If you can't measure it out so you can take 1mg accurately you shouldn't be playing with etizolam. My tolerance is massive and i still don't eyeball my doses, as your tolerance can get out of control when you start eyeballing when you're already high.

i'm not a buzz kill in real life, i do get high by myself though.... no one else even knows what the drugs i do are so they don't have much of an interest in doing 'some random internet chem'. I don't use etizolam to get high anyway, there are far better drugs for euphoria than etizolam out there.
 
^i just took 2.5mg intas and am feeling very good, but 3 mg is a lot better. BUT i literally dont feel shit from 1mg, even after a solid 4 year benzo break. people think these are legal xanax and wondering why its bunk. even without a tolerance 3mg isnt going to get anyone into trouble. its all good man, i get cranky sometimes too. thats what they make etizolam for : D -aphex


EDIT i always smoke cannabis with it, and like belfort, use it to chill and treact actual anxiety, but id be lying if i said i wasnt taking it to get "high" just like we take any other subtance- to achieved a desired effect.
 
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i have quite a tolerance to etizolam, well actually i dont, i guess i just learnt how to use it efficiently and effectively without getting a crazy tolerance. ive been taking etizolam for about a year and a half now, very regulary, most of the time with cannabis and used for stim comedowns

1mg you can feel, just very mildly, its more mental, kind of in the background doing its thing gently, you still have no anxiety just not totally blissed out, more functional.

2mg you start to properly feel it, things get more comfortable, more blissed out and merry.

i dunno about 3mg i rarely ever drop 3mg at once, i think i have twice, there is litrally no need, i dunno about you but i like to remember stuff, i like to know ive had a good night.

i rarely take more than 3mg over the course of a day (apart from when im on EPH, ill go through shit loads but that doesnt count because the EPH/etiz combo cancel each other out alot) if i start early i might push 4mg and i try not to take more than 3 times a week.

the key is learning how to use it and to know exactly what you are feeling and to know that you dont need another redose, you arent going to get any higher.
 
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Since "the benzene ring of this molecule is replaced with a thiophene ring," this chemical does not fall under the blanket of any analog laws correct? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
 
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