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Around 220 mg MDMA too much for a first timer?

I started taking MDMA at age 14... so believe me, I've been there.


LSD is much safer than MDMA. Not only on the brain as it is completely non-toxic while MDMA is directly toxic to many different parts of the brain and body.

LSD is also safer in that it is impossible to die from an overdose, and abuse of LSD has never given *me* any negative effects while abusing MDMA almost destroyed my life.




Obviously abusing any drug is not a good idea, but LSD is a much safer and non-toxic alternative to MDMA.

Not to mention he's going to be doing it alone anyways, and the only good drugs to even do alone are psychedelics.




Which is why I urge him, from my own personal experience, to stay away from the drugs that will be extremely detrimental to the way his brain is developing, and instead use psychedelics which can give something back to the user in the form of insight.

Not to mention, they are MUCH less suited to abuse than stimulant type drugs are.

Taking acid, as you know, can go very sour very quickly. I would suggest a fifteen year old isn't mature enough to handle it... I don't feel there is enough concrete evidence to say using LSD at such a young age is detrimental physically, but I err'd on the side of caution throughout my teenage years until I was 20 to take it myself just in case. But I guess that's just my opinion.
 
I'm really hoping this kid isn't ordering to his house as his parents would most likely be liable.
I won't get caught, I bought 5gs of weed(prob going to throw it out, no way to smoke it), and 25C-NBOMe. I'm taking MDMA no matter what. After that, i'l stick to Physicadelics. Like 2CB and a few NBOMe, LSD.
 
Boy, you are still a teenager. Lots of us had those feelings of being alone, and wanting to do stupid things. We have been there. Time will go fast, and that will be a thing of the past. Believe us.

First time on MDMA is magic, is fucking amazing, do not mess it up, because it will never come back. And you are going to mess it up if you take it (1) being just 15 (2) not in a party (3) without friends around.

So keep those pills, and in 2-3 years when you get some friends, do it! But now? You will fuck up one of the best life experiences you will ever have.
 
Boy, you are still a teenager. Lots of us had those feelings of being alone, and wanting to do stupid things. We have been there. Time will go fast, and that will be a thing of the past. Believe us.

First time on MDMA is magic, is fucking amazing, do not mess it up, because it will never come back. And you are going to mess it up if you take it (1) being just 15 (2) not in a party (3) without friends around.

So keep those pills, and in 2-3 years when you get some friends, do it! But now? You will fuck up one of the best life experiences you will ever have.
I got my answer for my question, I don't know how to close this thread. I really don't want to get convinced out of it, if I don't take it. It's doubtful I will ever get a chance.

@Riding out a bad LSD trip
I'l prob make some firecrackers or something with the weed. I got to learn how to cook first, though. lol
 
If you can't even figure out how to make a pipe... you REALLY shouldn't be doing drugs at all.
I made a pipe, with a water bottle and foil and a pen tube, and some other shit. It was very shitty. Anyway, I did buy a pipe, but it came broken, I asked the seller on etsy for a refund or replacement. He said no, and Paypal sided with him. I'l buy another pipe soon, i'l just buy edibles from SR, and make some with my 3-4 grams.
 
Ahhh.... I remember when I was 13 8)
I'm 15.

Why are you judging a retarded 15 yr old? DIDN'T YOUR MOTHER TEACH YOU MANNERS? D:
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I just checked the views for this thread, around 1k. I wouldn't of thought more then 20 people would read this thread lol. I know that repeated visits, count as views. Still, though...
 
I'm 15.

Why are you judging a retarded 15 yr old?

Yeah I know you are lmao, only a 15 year old would feel the need to correct me on a 2 year age discrepancy :!



Why are you judging a retarded 15 yr old?

Because I was you, but even stupider.


I really cannot stress enough how much pain abusing MDMA at such a young age caused me. I'm not even going to try and explain it, because it is honestly so horrific you're going to think I'm lying to you... but I would never do that, I only have your best interests at heart.


I made a promise to myself that because I wrecked my brain with Ecstasy, I wouldn't let it happen to anyone that doesn't even know what kind of lasting damage MDMA can bring.

If you chose to ignore us... fine, can't say I didn't see it coming. But please, at the least... do it safely?
 
Yeah I know you are lmao, only a 15 year old would feel the need to correct me on a 2 year age discrepancy :!





Because I was you, but even stupider.


I really cannot stress enough how much pain abusing MDMA at such a young age caused me. I'm not even going to try and explain it, because it is honestly so horrific you're going to think I'm lying to you... but I would never do that, I only have your best interests at heart.


I made a promise to myself that because I wrecked my brain with Ecstasy, I wouldn't let it happen to anyone that doesn't even know what kind of lasting damage MDMA can bring.

If you chose to ignore us... fine, can't say I didn't see it coming. But please, at the least... do it safely?
I'm only buying one pill, if I take half, and I enjoy it. I might end up taking the other half within a month. I wont abuse MDMA though. If anything, I would waste my money buying a pipe and smoking marijuana. If I ever end up smoking it lol. I have plenty of money(only like 1k), but that seriously doesn't mean I will throw it all away(at drugs at least, maybe some steam games).
 
I'm going to give you some bad advice. Follow it if you will.


half of that Party Flock will probably be a disappointing experience.. they are ADVERTISED at 220mg, but are usually TESTED at 180-200mg. Half of that wouldn't really be enough, just a little bit under the right dose.


Try and get 120mg for your first dose... so half the pill with the addition of another 1/10th or so, just over 1/2.

3/4 would likely be a bit much, but personally a half would seem like a waste of my first roll...



Don't take more after only a month though, especially at that age. When you are so young, you should probably stick to the 3 month rule as a MINIMUM. Better safe than sorry when it comes to the Serotonin System
 
I'm going to give you some bad advice. Follow it if you will.


half of that Party Flock will probably be a disappointing experience.. they are ADVERTISED at 220mg, but are usually TESTED at 180-200mg. Half of that wouldn't really be enough, just a little bit under the right dose.


Try and get 120mg for your first dose... so half the pill with the addition of another 1/10th or so, just over 1/2.

3/4 would likely be a bit much, but personally a half would seem like a waste of my first roll...



Don't take more after only a month though, especially at that age. When you are so young, you should probably stick to the 3 month rule as a MINIMUM. Better safe than sorry when it comes to the Serotonin System
You are right, it's tested at 202-220MG, if I take half, I might end up taking like 90mg, which would be a waste. I might try to buy some MDMA, and ask the vendor if they would be nice enough to split them into 100mg packs. I don't have a scale, i'm planning to get one.
I know about the month thing.

Preload on stuff like - Vitamins, Anti Oxidants.
After you take drug - Plenty of food - Force yourself to eat even if you don't feel like it. Take 5-Htp, at least after 24hrs after the experience. Don't take 5-Htp right before, or like a day before. Or, take it right after. Both drugs affect your serotonin, and two drugs like that together, can cause Serotonin syndrome.

What I said might not be exactly accurate, but I do know a little bit. Of course, before the experience, i'l read a safe usage of MDMA guide, and take everything as needed.
 
When in doubt, take less. You can always take more later. You can't remove some from your body once you've already ingested it.
 
Dude if you're 15 you shouldn't be fucking doing coke and rolling... ESPECIALLY not by yourself, that's kind of sad :\
Take it from someone who did ecstasy as a 15 year old and fucked his 5-HT development up, that shit isn't worth it. Wait till you're older, trust me you'll wish you would have. Stick to psychedelics at the very least man... cocaine at age 15 is a recipe for disaster.

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Please, please heed this advice, every word...it's just not worth it.
You are right, it's tested at 202-220MG, if I take half, I might end up taking like 90mg, which would be a waste. I might try to buy some MDMA, and ask the vendor if they would be nice enough to split them into 100mg packs. I don't have a scale, i'm planning to get one.

I'd get a test kit before a scale, and the source you are receiving from (if I have read this thread correctly) still doesn't guarantee %100 quality. They have much more leeway to ask act as salesmen, so be careful (I'll just end discussion on all of that though).

I'd also be concerned of the repercussions as a 15 your old getting caught shipping illicit drugs; I don't mean to sound preachy, but I'm not just talking about your brain, I'm talking about messing with your whole future....just throwing that out there.
 
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Please, please heed this advice, every word...it's just not worth it.


I'd get a test kit before a scale, and the source you are receiving from (if I have read this thread correctly) still doesn't guarantee %100 quality. They have much more leeway to ask act as salesmen, so be careful (I'll just end discussion on all of that though).

I'd also be concerned of the repercussions as a 15 your old getting caught shipping illicit drugs; I don't mean to sound preachy, but I'm not just talking about your brain, I'm talking about messing with your whole future....just throwing that out there.
About the illicit drugs thing, don't worry about it. My fault if anything happens. The source not being trustable. I will go ahead and explain how SR works.

If a vendor always gets good ratings(5/5), they have a reputation number(1-100) beside their name. Say, for example. The seller is like, FUCK THIS. He then sends pipes to all his buyers. When they find out he sent them something other then MDMA, intentionally. Well then, most of them will rate a 1/5. Anything under 5/5 will make your rep go down. So, say, 5 people get shit pills. They know it's def not MDMA. They all rate 1/5, that sellers feedback drops like crazy. Making it almost impossible to buy from that seller. All vendors want 5/5, sending a fake pill to just to make $8-$15. Is extremely retarded. I know it doesn't sound like it would work. The quality could be shit, but, it's there's a low chance of sending fake shit.

Then again, i'm somewhat new to SR, maybe i'm totally wrong. Who knows. :P
 
^ We are not allowed to discuss sources on Bluelight. I ignored it before to try and not bring attention to you, but please stop talking about where you are getting your drugs from.


I will say this though, just because a vendor has good reviews does NOT mean he is legit. Vendors will set up like 20 accounts and buy their own product through themselves, leaving reviews but losing no money. It's still better than buying off the street, but there is also a GIANT additional risk of you being arrested for importing controlled substances.... a felony which will follow you around for the rest of your life. This is a risk that is simply too great for me to leave up to chance.. and when you are still so young, it's likely your Dad would be the one getting the blame, not you...



Good luck.
 
^ We are not allowed to discuss sources on Bluelight. I ignored it before to try and not bring attention to you, but please stop talking about where you are getting your drugs from.


I will say this though, just because a vendor has good reviews does NOT mean he is legit. Vendors will set up like 20 accounts and buy their own product through themselves, leaving reviews but losing no money. It's still better than buying off the street, but there is also a GIANT additional risk of you being arrested for importing controlled substances.... a felony which will follow you around for the rest of your life. This is a risk that is simply too great for me to leave up to chance.. and when you are still so young, it's likely your Dad would be the one getting the blame, not you...



Good luck.
Hopefully no mod notices that and bans me.
Anyway, all is answered, leave the thread be. Unless you have something you think I should know.
 
Long time lurker, infrequent poster. Experienced drug user here. I thought I'd sign in for once and offer my advice.

Firstly, I don't know your exact situation regarding friends and family, but 15 is the worst age you can be if you're feeling a little socially inept, left out and generally depressed. It does get better on it's own after you leave school though.

Now, it seems you're gonna do this, so my advice would be to take 2 thirds of the pill. I know the exact pill you're talking about. Go a half if you want, but two thirds will be a more full experience and shouldn't be too overwhelming. This is a decent dose mind you. Not excessive but decent. Don't take the whole thing though.

As others have stated, the nature of MDMA is very very social. Do you not have ANY friends? I mean, even a couple of nice souled female friends? Pull an all nighter and hang out in a park, or someone's basement, talk, have fun. Even if you're the only one taking ecstasy, you'll probably wish someone was there, and it would be a shame to experience that magic for the first time, alone. Or, are you into music? Save it for a concert you want to go to. At events, people on MDMA literally make great spontaneous friends every 5 minutes. Imagine having no inhibitions towards starting conversations with complete strangers. You may get a taste of what you're missing in your life at the moment. A taste can be valuable, but you have to integrate the experience and learn from it.

Another thing, lots of people here already know about this method you use to obtain goods. They generally don't like people referencing that site here. Not only does it compromise your security, but people like to savour the special things while they still exist. Believe me, it needs no more exposure.

Lastly, please tell me you didn't order raw nbome powder? A 15 year old taking MDMA is pushing the boundaries, but at least that is comparably very safe. Nbomes are very new, very unpredictable and to be honest, people have died. Even with blotters, please please be careful.

Good luck with your roll buddy.
 
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