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Around 220 mg MDMA too much for a first timer?

i agree... smoke some pot, maybe trip on mushrooms. i never took mdma until i was in my late 20's. didn't try coke until mid-20's. work yourself up to it. this is your time man.... go out and get drunk, make friends - the best friends of your whole life will be the ones you meet in your late teens/early 20's.

but really - don't take mdma by yourself - the third or fourth time i took mdma, i did it by myself after working late one night ... and i spent the whole time wishing and yearning that somebody - anybody - was with me.
 
if you're depressed ... like you say you are - seriously - it would be way more therapeutic to grab some mushrooms and go to a park or something by yourself than take mdma by yourself. i would even say that shrooms might even help you with your depression. think about things man.
 
Powerful said:
Is 200mg Fishscale coke too mcuh?
Anyway, I know it's sad. It's called being sad, and using drugs for depression medicine.
Recipe for disaster, indeed.
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Any amount of coke is, it's a shitty drug by all accounts really.


If you're determined to do something, do some acid or maybe 2C-B. Stick to psychedelics man, they can at least give you something back. Hard drugs just take more and more of your life away until there is nothing left to give them :\


Most psychedelics are relatively non-toxic as well, so you shouldn't have to worry about stunting your brain's development (the way I did) as long as you use them safely.



Good luck man, and take it from me... it's really not worth it at such a young age.
 
i agree 100% with the poster above... beeing a teen is all about finding yourself and figuring things out. psychedelics would help this process... while other things like stimulants or whatever ... the opposite.
 
i think if you did a poll of all the bluelighters here who have done mdma when they were a teenager - 100% would agree that it was a bad idea and they wished they had waited. you sound like a smart kid - you came here to ask a question about doseages ... you've shown some self-awareness... so learn from others
 
Sorry about being parental, paternal and all the rest, but kid, you shouldn't be rolling at 15. At least wait until your body has finished growing before f*cking it up.
 
augustaB said:
Sorry about being parental, paternal and all the rest, but kid, you shouldn't be rolling at 15. At least wait until your body has finished growing before f*cking it up.
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When I leave HS, and go out to the real world. I probably wont ever have access to SR, or the internet in fact. If I wanted anything, it would have to be street quality.
I guess I wont do coke, but Psychs are so god damn expensive on SR... For 5 tabs of 250ug LSD, it's over $80(I don't know how to say that I can't afford psychs without mentioning prices...). Shrooms, are just.... Anything that requires smoking, or should be smoked, like DMT, I can't do, no pipe.
 
Hey Powerful,

For a frame of reference: I'm a guy who is 6'2" (188cm) and 230 lbs (104.5kg). For the first several years before I developed a tolerance to E from starting to double drop, 1 pill with 100mg - 120mg kept me flying sky high at a peak that lasted a reaaaaalllly long time. I never experienced E in waves like some people. For me I would get a ball of tension build up low in my stomach and then suddenly with a zap a surge of euphoria would roll from my lower gut all the way up my body and I would rocket up to the moon and stay there for hours.

100mg - 120mg should be plenty for a first timer, so please don't ruin it for yourself. E has a magic sweet spot in the dosage, and more isn't always better. When you move out of the sweet spot of E, you lose the magic of the high and just get really messed up. It still feels good but you mostly just sit there "floored" without moving or doing much of anything. E is most magical when you can move around, interact with other people and dance like nobody is watching.

The decision of what you do is ultimately your responsibility, but remember that 220mg is a moderately high dose even for people like me who have been using E for over a decade. :-)
 
This is ridiculous. I wouldn't even give advice to a 15 year old. My only advice is steer clear of the drugs dude. It is only going to delay you entering the real world. Trust. You mention you aren't even old enough to attend the events where rolling 95% of the time takes place, that should be a pretty strong indicator you should not be taking part of that. Your brain isn't developed, you aren't even done growing. If you are depressed, seek therapy. Find medicine (I am not a firm believer of SSRI's or meds) but if that keeps you away from illegal drug use by all means... Take what the Dr gives. Come on kid, don't fuck your body up before you are even an adult.
 
pokepoke420 said:
This is ridiculous. I wouldn't even give advice to a 15 year old. My only advice is steer clear of the drugs dude. It is only going to delay you entering the real world. Trust. You mention you aren't even old enough to attend the events where rolling 95% of the time takes place, that should be a pretty strong indicator you should not be taking part of that. Your brain isn't developed, you aren't even done growing. If you are depressed, seek therapy. Find medicine (I am not a firm believer of SSRI's or meds) but if that keeps you away from illegal drug use by all means... Take what the Dr gives. Come on kid, don't fuck your body up before you are even an adult.
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I'm not going to take advice like that, sorry. I don't have too much of a care for my life, so telling me all I am doing is fucking up my life. Wont change how I feel. All it does is make me feel like 'Why does it matter? I'm going to fail anyway". When I can't succeed and I don't understand half the shit in school. How am I even supposed to get a job and support myself? There isn't a reason to decide against something that I can enjoy. I mean, why does it matter if I get brain damage, not like i'l succeed anyway...

I go way to much into how shitty and useless I feel of myself, so off topic. I must just enjoy talking, only when I can't see the disappointment and uselessness I see in other peoples eyes. >.> I'm more or less, the standard dipshit kid who thinks his problems will be solved by abusing something that makes him feel good. Recipe for disaster, indeed!

Anyway, I ultimately decided to use half of the pill, and take the rest in a few months time.
 
Powerful said:
I'm more or less, the standard dipshit kid who thinks his problems will be solved by abusing something that makes him feel good.
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I'm the kid that went through that, and it is fucking stupid.


MDMA will make your depression WORSE. Much worse. If you have to use drugs, use psychedelics. 2C-B is fucking cheap, as are a number of other great psychedelics. LSD is quite expensive, yes.. but it's WELL worth it, as you'll be tripping balls all day anyway
 
I had pretty low self-esteem when I was 15 too, it was a terrible age to be really. It inhibited me from making friends and pretty much constrained me to staying home and playing video games a lot.

Lots of people have a terrible time in their teens. Our bodies and minds are still incomplete, and we're just aware enough to realize it. It's easy to be afraid that you will never be more than you are now.

You should know though, that your life will change. In fact, things change very quickly for teenagers, that's part of what makes life so hard. As little as one year from now, you will not be able to recognize yourself. A few more years, and your peers won't recognize you either: you'll be a new person. I was afraid for a long time that I'd always be saddled with the mistakes of my teenaged self, but I was surprised to learn how much people live in the present and not the past.

I'm 22 now, and I feel like I have it all. I have great friends, whom I respect and who respect me. I've been in a relationship with a beautiful woman for two years, and between us we've got more love than half of America's married couples. I work as hard as I can, but I know how to have fun too. Yeah, I even do drugs sometimes.

Taking some MDMA probably won't kill you, but if you do take it, please keep your mind open to having a little more faith in yourself. If your feelings cause problems with your life, don't be afraid to acknowledge it- it happens to more people than you think. If you need help to feel well, tell someone. It could be your parents, or anyone you trust. Nobody deserves to hate themselves. Maybe it would help to see a therapist, maybe it wouldn't, but self-medicating at this level is dangerous.

Wait as long as you possibly can before taking any more drugs, wait until you're an adult if possible. Life as an adult is a lot more pleasant than life as a teenager, in my opinion, and when you get there you'll be shocked that you ever took your future for granted.

Good luck!
 
Take half, then a quarter, then another quarter. Of course only take the two quarters if you feel like you can handle it (and want it). It's possible just the half is enough for you already but it depends. Definitely don't take it at once. I've seen people turn into zombies because of that and it's no fun. :P Your friend is right about the pill btw, the Party Flock is of very good quality and has a high dose. :)
 
Definately take half first, that way if it's not strong enough you can take the other half. If you eat all of it and it's too strong you can't un-take half a pill. Better safe than sorry right?
 
Thad Castle said:
Definately take half first, that way if it's not strong enough you can take the other half. If you eat all of it and it's too strong you can't un-take half a pill. Better safe than sorry right?
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Yes.
I'm taking half of it.
Mind you, i'm like 203 pounds(haven't checked recently). So, 110mg might not be enough..

Just to tell everyone who told me psychs are better then Stims for my body and mind ATM. I'm going to buy a bit of 2CB and LSD(150-250ug).
 
I'm really hoping this kid isn't ordering to his house as his parents would most likely be liable.
 
Folley said:
Any amount of coke is, it's a shitty drug by all accounts really.


If you're determined to do something, do some acid or maybe 2C-B. Stick to psychedelics man, they can at least give you something back. Hard drugs just take more and more of your life away until there is nothing left to give them :\


Most psychedelics are relatively non-toxic as well, so you shouldn't have to worry about stunting your brain's development (the way I did) as long as you use them safely.



Good luck man, and take it from me... it's really not worth it at such a young age.
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I don't think advising him to acid is anyway more HR than doing ecstasy. I think he's too young to do any drugs, but I took ecstasy when I was 16 so I can't be a hypocrit.

If he follows HR and is sensible he will be fine.

I don't think he should be doing any drugs until his brain has a chance to develop, but we all know he's going to do it anyway.
 
I started taking MDMA at age 14... so believe me, I've been there.


LSD is much safer than MDMA. Not only on the brain as it is completely non-toxic while MDMA is directly toxic to many different parts of the brain and body.

LSD is also safer in that it is impossible to die from an overdose, and abuse of LSD has never given *me* any negative effects while abusing MDMA almost destroyed my life.




Obviously abusing any drug is not a good idea, but LSD is a much safer and non-toxic alternative to MDMA.

Not to mention he's going to be doing it alone anyways, and the only good drugs to even do alone are psychedelics.


StrutterGear said:
I don't think he should be doing any drugs until his brain has a chance to develop, but we all know he's going to do it anyway.
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Which is why I urge him, from my own personal experience, to stay away from the drugs that will be extremely detrimental to the way his brain is developing, and instead use psychedelics which can give something back to the user in the form of insight.

Not to mention, they are MUCH less suited to abuse than stimulant type drugs are.
 
pokepoke420 said:
This is ridiculous. I wouldn't even give advice to a 15 year old. My only advice is steer clear of the drugs dude. It is only going to delay you entering the real world. Trust. You mention you aren't even old enough to attend the events where rolling 95% of the time takes place, that should be a pretty strong indicator you should not be taking part of that. Your brain isn't developed, you aren't even done growing. If you are depressed, seek therapy. Find medicine (I am not a firm believer of SSRI's or meds) but if that keeps you away from illegal drug use by all means... Take what the Dr gives. Come on kid, don't fuck your body up before you are even an adult.
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You not giving advice to a 15 year old is really no different than the mentality of people who don't believe in HR advice for anyone because of their belief that the only advice people who use drugs need is to "just say no" and to take responsibility for their own lives.

The "just say no" message is probably going to work just as well for this 15 year old kid as it is for any regular drug user of any age. If I were the parent of a 15 year old child who was going to use drugs, I'd do all I could to encourage him not to use them but if I knew he or she was going to do it anyway then I'd want them armed with the best harm reduction advice out there. Bluelight is a wealth of that sort of harm reduction advice.
 
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