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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

audiopium said:
Machete, please keep us posted on the results with your recent batch of MDAI. This one has become tricky to find lately, and I'm hoping to locate some myself, though it seems like it's scarce these days and I'm unsure if anyone has the real deal anymore...
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It definitely wasn't MDAI. Usual vendor tactic of bait and switch for as long as they can get away with. Seems like this one's gone for good!

Pretty gutted personally since it was such a clean way to add some serotonin involvement into highs from other drugs.

I wasted some serious cash trying to buy some in during its final weeks and ending up with whatever they had overstocked at that time.
 
Ugh! Super bummed to read this just now, after I ordered some MDAI Gold last week... still waiting on delivery, and it seems there are a couple places still offering this, so it's possible we got ours from different sources, but at this point I guess I won't expect too much. Damn, this was a very important purchase for me... bought more than I'd usually get of anything and really hoped I'd gotten some before it's gone for good.

Machete, did you reagent test yours? Curious what you found the results to be via that method or any other method you used. Did it feel like anything else you've tried?
 
I wonder if MDAI is really non-neurotoxic. I am definitely feeling some mild depression, lethargy, and general lackadaisical feelings after using it. Granted, I went through a gram in a week.

It is a great writing aid for me, especially when combined with yerba mate. I also tried it with n2o, needless to say it was a gas. haha. It has a slow come up, about 1-2 hours, peaks for about 2 hours, and then gradually tapers off. It is somewhat sedating, but it still kept me awake later than usual. Music is essential in order to experience any sort of euphoria, and even then it is mild at best. No afterglow was noticed, although I have done MDMA a fair bit of times in the past. I also noticed stomach discomfort and general unease a few hours into each experience, reminds me of a trip report on erowid I read titled 'not worth the negatives'.

All in all it is pretty useless as a recreational drug on it's own, but I can definitely see how it could shine in combinations with psychedelics. Too bad I'm a drug addict and don't have the willpower to save any for next time I feel like tripping.

For now, my receptors are thoroughly jumbled, I am tired, and done with drugs, right after I blow through these last couple grams of K...
 
cryptix420 said:
I wonder if MDAI is really non-neurotoxic. I am definitely feeling some mild depression, lethargy, and general lackadaisical feelings after using it. Granted, I went through a gram in a week.

It is a great writing aid for me, especially when combined with yerba mate. I also tried it with n2o, needless to say it was a gas. haha. It has a slow come up, about 1-2 hours, peaks for about 2 hours, and then gradually tapers off. It is somewhat sedating, but it still kept me awake later than usual. Music is essential in order to experience any sort of euphoria, and even then it is mild at best. No afterglow was noticed, although I have done MDMA a fair bit of times in the past. I also noticed stomach discomfort and general unease a few hours into each experience, reminds me of a trip report on erowid I read titled 'not worth the negatives'.

All in all it is pretty useless as a recreational drug on it's own, but I can definitely see how it could shine in combinations with psychedelics. Too bad I'm a drug addict and don't have the willpower to save any for next time I feel like tripping.

For now, my receptors are thoroughly jumbled, I am tired, and done with drugs, right after I blow through these last couple grams of K...
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think those symptoms are indicators of neurotoxicity, just a temporary serotonin debt.
 
right i know one place thats selling this again saying its indian brown mdai ? any one know if this is worth the money or not ? say its the last that will ever be produced
 
foolsgold said:
right i know one place thats selling this again saying its indian brown mdai ? any one know if this is worth the money or not ? say its the last that will ever be produced
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Ha my friends sitting on like 3 grams of the stuff and doesn't want to do it at all nor does anyone we know. How unfortunate the world is at times.
 
I wouldn't bother with any brown stuff. White MDAI has recently been restocked elsewhere so it's neither the last batch or worth the money.
 
Hello everyone,

I liked MDAI last year very much but as for most of you, vendors I trusted have stopped selling it. I searched for it recently again and bought a gram of white'n'shiny "MDAI Gold", as they call it. I haven't tested it with Mandelin, Marquis either Mecke, but as only looks, taste and effects seems to be familiar. It was a pity although, that I took 0.6g per ~6 hour period. It was clearly to much for me, do not recommend for anyone: my head was hurting for the next two days, strange body heat, sweat, muscle weakness. I didn't do much for three days afterwards, two of them laying in the bed and only because of physical weakness. High was also not that good when took repeatedly, jaw tension appears to get from almost 0 after first 150mg dosage, going to third 230mg, when it sucks so much, that you better have something what to chew on!
 
My vendor had been sold out of MDAI for months, when it suddenly reappered again a few weeks ago, and I bought a bag. This is fine whity sparkly powder and is definitly MDAI just like the flaky sparkly white MDAI, this has a more chemical taste to it however. It is strong, however after a night up, taking ca. 3 x 300m over a eight hour period I am getting very dizzy to the point of fainting when I try to walk to and from the lue (it does as other MDAI I have experienced give you an urge too pee more than normal while second dose usually *fucks* up peeing, you feel like to really have to go while lying down, you get to the toilet and can hardly squeeze out, only to go back lying down again feeling like you are about to piss the pants again, dunno why there is a horizontal / vertical opposite effect on this urine issue) ... anyhow I wanted to comment on the very powerfull fainting effect I have gotten after the stuff is broken down (and I feel a bit depressed and quite angsty). I literally had to grab hold and at one point did fall down while my vision blurred out totally, at one point I must have fainted as I felt disoriented at where I was - in my own bathroom. The fainting effect and dizzyness only happens when I try to walk, as if it is a lack of oxygen, my heart maybe not pumping fast enough for walking. I tried drinking some Orange Juice twice thinking it could be a bloodglucose defiency, but I still get the fainting dizzyness. It is worth noting I am on 15mg Zopiclone, but I have a high treshold and tolerance for Zopiclone after having used it for a year, still no other MDAI has made me this dizzy even with higher dosages of Zopiclone after. ... I have no abnormal effect while lying resting and can focus well on the computer. Plausible cause(s)? (I do however have a feeling it is not fatal or damage as I think/feel sleeping a nights sleep will turn me back to normal). And yeah going to sleep after MDAI is next to impossible - easier while on it! Update: I know think it is because I took way to many antihistamines when I was having an allergic asthmatic fit earlier on.
 
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I found and old batch of the chocolate like mdai from a now defunct popular vendor. Tried 100mg a few times. Subtle mood lift, little anti depressive effect. No noticeable sides. Would like to try a higher dose + some eph to see if it's really as good as some make it out to be.
 
crazycatman said:
I found and old batch of the chocolate like mdai from a now defunct popular vendor. Tried 100mg a few times. Subtle mood lift, little anti depressive effect. No noticeable sides. Would like to try a higher dose + some eph to see if it's really as good as some make it out to be.
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Tried a few more times, with and without eph.

Eph mostly overpowers it so the mdai isn't that noticable.

Higher dose (about 170mg) on it's own = good for talking about your feelings, really lets you open up much easily. Still no sides.

Probably going to take the last I have today, but I think it's only about 50mg or so.

Not planning on buying any more atm.
 
(1) What would be a good starting dose of MDAI for my first time? I'll probably be having some ethylphenidate as well. Would this combo be similar to MDMA?

(2)Also, what would be considered a strong dose

(3) and the most a person could have in one night?

(4) is it possible to re-dose throughout the night?
 
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1 - A good recreational dose is around 170-250mg. The combo would make it similar but nothing like MDMA really.

2 - Anything above 200mg if you don't have a tolerance

3 - I wouldn't do more than 350mg in one night. The less you binge, the more you preserve the magic.
 
Hi all - just thought I should copy this over from BDD. Any help much appreciated. Ta!


Good Mornin BL & GL. Hope everyone's ok.

I'm looking at doing some first-time experiments with EPA, MDAI and Etizolam.

Looking at forums etc makes me think that these are much stronger than Mephedrone - which was my last RC in 2010. I was frequently boshing 1-3gs of that but that doesn't look wise with the above! Probably wasn't wise with Meph either but there you go.

Anyway, from research online, I'm reckoning allergy test with about 5mg of each. Then a first dose of approx. 20-25mg EPA with 50mg MDAI insufflated. I anticipate re-dosing similar amounts (perhaps a bit more of the MDAI) a few hours later. I know I won't sleep until next morning - that's fine.

The 1mg Etiz tabs are for chilling/sleeping later - 1-2 once effects are properly fading.

I have been prone to some anxiety in the past when coming up on new RCs (somewhat a hangover from a bad acid trip 15+ years ago) - so my 2 questions are:

1) Do my doses look reasonable or will the EPA overpower the MDAI?
2) Does anyone reckon half an Etiz (0.5mg) beforehand, possibly plugged, might help avoid jitters or is that unwise?

Any help much appreciated - will post report after next weekend (2nd-3rd Dec).

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A good oral dose for me is 250mg MDAI + 50mg MPA. Nowhere near overwhelming but extremely fun, and felt very close to MDMA. You could try to extrapolate a snorting dose from this, but I think I read somewhere that MDAI snorted isn't very pleasant.
 
David the Chansey said:
A good oral dose for me is 250mg MDAI + 50mg MPA. Nowhere near overwhelming but extremely fun, and felt very close to MDMA. You could try to extrapolate a snorting dose from this, but I think I read somewhere that MDAI snorted isn't very pleasant.
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Thanks for the reply.

Sounds like you're quite experienced with these two. Having not tried before I might start a bit smaller, but the proportion gives me something to go on.

Are MPA and EPA similar? I heard there was some difference...
 
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