theres no point in taking opiate/oids on top of 65ml of done as it wont effect you- lay off the 'done for 24 h
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Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?
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Spliff Politics
Bluelighter
Well, i dont inject & had lost my booty shooter, so oral it was! Still gave a nice very high none the less, so all is swell. And with the subs - it wasnt untill the effect of the diconal was starting to wear off untill i had a little toot, so just added to it nicely at the tail end.
Only got 5 dikes left until next week. Gonna save them for my comedown on Sunday. Reckon i should just plug all 5 at once for a semi-rush or start off with 3 and top up with 2 an hour later or so?
eireann
Bluelighter
wtf.....is diconal??? it sounds good y wasnt morphine available during the drought is it to hard\expensive to get or what? pulled a freaker on cannabis when i was 16 i thought i was having a heart attack and had to go to hospital...anyway when i was in the ambulance i was giving morphine tru iv and dear god it was the buzziest warmest nicest rush i ever got gear use to threaten to reach dat buzz but it alway fell short....by the way bluelight is bad for some one off drugs...reading ur posts has me dreaming of all the downer drugs again...im too afraid of gear now as i no how much it fucks with ur life but man id love a dalmane or zimo...fuck the xanax and d-10s
I have consumed Diconal and Valoid/Done combos both orally and rectally as I do not inject. Oral Diconal on its own isn't very impressive and is quite expensive seeing as you have to take 3 or more tablets to really feel much - although In personal experience taking a small amount of benzodiazepenes and using them alongside a lesser dosage is a far superior high. I just went through 3 x 8mg Dilaudids this evening ( via nasal and rectal) and whilst the high is indeed nice I can understand when people say that IV HM is the only way to use it properly - I often have that I get a small guilty feeling when I'm not intravenously using Diconal, ms contin or very good SR heroin.
Rattles
Bluelighter
Thanks Ructions, it ain't so simple (is it ever) but we both seem to be managing OK the last coupla days (when I said 5 days straight I meant 5 days scoring on the bounce) . Missus R. will usually be the one to relapse, but she manages her habit a lot better than me, if she could just hide it better.....(impossible after 14 years together).Like you, I'm both tantalised and scared of getting something decent. I can't (won't) go back on the streets though, whatever - no matter how strong the brown calls I've a little boy who needs me more + I've spent 14 months of drought squirrelling away money where I can't get at it as and when, so hoping things will stay OK. Tired and (a little) full of cider now, tho. Nights.
Rattles
PS Yeah Ructions we do the whole strong /weak thing too. Guess maybe most using couples do. Do you do that thing where you like drop little hints (cos' you know each others triggers so well), hoping the other one will be the one to actually come out and say 'let's go score'?
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Why would they give you morphine for a freek out on weed? at most they might have given you valium - morphine is for pain not for a silly boy who smoked tooo much spliff.
brimz
Bluelighter
You never know their are a few Historic ones
Spliff Politics
Bluelighter
What are you saying? That the ones i have are fake? Cos i can assure you, they are most certainly real
depends where you got them from - rare as hens teeth
Spliff Politics
Bluelighter
Yep - there definitely legit. Not going to go into how i know, but i can be 100% sure they are the real thing. Just because the almighty Blondin can't get them, doesn't mean no-one else can.
Cornishman
Bluelighter
I never realized diconal was any good.
I even know someone with a script who doesn't like the stuff.
I even know someone with a script who doesn't like the stuff.
Hi Rattles!
Aw sorry i picked you up totally wrong, i thought you said that your girlfriend didn't use. So you both use, umm i know how yous feel so! & yes we both often drop hints to score all the time, neither of us want to be the one who actually says "lets score!" It seems we all do the same things! Sometimes we just look at each other, with that desperate wanting look! & then i pick up the phone & score! When we first got together neither of us were strungout, so when we gave each other that desperate wanting look it meant something else altogether! 
But now our relationship is all about heroin, such a shame! I'd love to turn back the clock! Although the bad quality gear in Dublin is helping us stay clean most of the time! But i still miss gear like crazy! 8( My head says Yes, No, Yes, No Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No, YES, NO.... all day long...... Drives me crazy!!!!charlie clean
Bluelighter
It's a pretty standard treatment for a heart attack, though, from which presumably the paramedics believed Eireann was suffering.
charlie clean
Bluelighter
If they're looking for friends, I can think of a number of folks who'd be happy to make their acquaintance.
Hey all... I started my script for methadone last week after almost 6 months waiting on "the list".
Naturally enough i've not stopped smoking yet. I'm only on 30mls atm but it doesn't seem to b holding me for d 24 hours, so I assume they will put me up a little?
I never really wanted to go on phy coz there's not one person I know that has stopped takin heroin while on it. I'm terrified that I'm giving myself a double habit, then I'll b worse off than i was b4. I know its early days, and just because everyone else I know is doing both doesn't mean I have to.
I can avoid people in my town and get people to stop ringing me wen they're selling but what an irony it is that the place I go to get help is the place where I can make lots more contacts and buy gear there if I want - like all clinics I guess.
I dunno if I've made d right choice, although I'd social workers on my back telling me that I had to go on it or risk having my child taken off me.
I'm sure I'll just have to try to pull some will-power outta somewhere and at least try to begin to lessen what I already smoke.
Heres hoping!
Naturally enough i've not stopped smoking yet. I'm only on 30mls atm but it doesn't seem to b holding me for d 24 hours, so I assume they will put me up a little?
I never really wanted to go on phy coz there's not one person I know that has stopped takin heroin while on it. I'm terrified that I'm giving myself a double habit, then I'll b worse off than i was b4. I know its early days, and just because everyone else I know is doing both doesn't mean I have to.
I can avoid people in my town and get people to stop ringing me wen they're selling but what an irony it is that the place I go to get help is the place where I can make lots more contacts and buy gear there if I want - like all clinics I guess.
I dunno if I've made d right choice, although I'd social workers on my back telling me that I had to go on it or risk having my child taken off me.
I'm sure I'll just have to try to pull some will-power outta somewhere and at least try to begin to lessen what I already smoke.
Heres hoping!
Rattles
Bluelighter
Hi Rattles!
Hiya Ructions sweet,
Yeah, remember the first year or two before Gear became king. Wondering if you'd have time to make it to the bedroom and ending up pulling each others clothes off half way up the stairs! (fuckin bad for carpet burn) I sometimes wonder if you can get those days back, but I guess they're gone for good. We've the same kinda co-dependence with H, a bit Benzos (missus rattles) and Alcohol (ME), but Love for the kids means ideally stopping and certainly using well controlled. Weird thing 'bout gear is that I've ratled plenty, but it ain't so much WD pain thats driven me back to it, but the promise of comfort and freedom from fear that it offers. In short it's too good at what it does, and too dangerous for me, at least in the long run, cos my use can easily go thro' the roof in no time. For me not having gear is like you - doesn't matter what else Im doing, the loudest voice in my head is always the one wanting to score... its weird; 14 months with no gear- you'ld think youd start to feel normal again, tho if you're scipted maybe that holds you back - but for me its like nothings changed. And I keep asking myself- if the B was so shit I stopped nov 2010, why the fuck am I paying for the same shit now?
Take care and best wishes
Rattles
Yes Rattles, i'm always thinking the very same thing myself! Before the drought i always thought that i wanted to get clean, but since the drought gave me every opportunity to get clean i have now learned that deep down i actually don't really wanna get clean! I am shocked at myself for still scoring when i know that the gear is sub-standard! I wish that i could have a brain transplant, coz i do my own head in all of the time!!!
Hi Alfo!!!
How are you keeping? I hope your well! Its good to hear that you have got onto a methadone maintenance program at least! I know it feels like your getting a second habit, but your not really so try not to think of it that way. Heroin & methadone are both opiates & its opiates that you are addicted to.I think methadone will help you, just think of the days that you are totally broke & you still have to buy gear to function, so you either spend your food money or rent money or what ever on gear or else you get tick, well at least these days you won't have to gear anymore, or if you still want to score then you can buy less. Once your on methadone you lose the constant fear of W.D's. give it a go & if you hate it then you can always come back off methadone while your still using gear.
I have been on methadone around 6 years, maybe more & except for the drought i have never got clean, but i have cut back. In my opinion methadone is not the best treatment for heron addiction, but its all that they will offer us in Ireland, so make the most of it & hopefully it will help you. If i'm using heroin then i don't take my methadone for a least 24 hours, that way i get the full effect of the heroin. Best of luck
& if your worried then come on here & chat to people, there is plenty of people in the same situation as you on here!!!
eireann
Bluelighter
got it one charlie guess blondin doesnt no evrything about the drug world im amazed he hasnt said hes doing morphine rite now on its better dan the morphine i did haha
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Bluelighter
Hi mate, you have just started a new phase in your life! And a long one probably...There is no such thing as a double habit, but using both just makes it harder to get high and also harder to get clean.
You are very right about the atmosphere at the clinic, man can get some good numbers there ya know! But seriously, if you are trying to stay clean then it ain't the best place for you ironically.
You will begin to realise that smoking on top of meth is often frustrating and extremely expensive, plus you will need your dose upped constantly which ain't what you want. Find what holds you and stay there, if that is below the magical 60-70 ml then you should be OK. Doses above that suck someone in for years in my experience.
I wish you luck, it is an evil thing in many ways but a lifesaver in others. Don't know how helpful that is I could rap about methadone all day!
If you want to be "clean" then Subutex is the one I reckon...But I know a ton of people who have been on methadone for years without using. Your motivations sound good so fair play, admitting what you want from it is half the battle
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