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Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

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blondin said:
you willnever get a sctript 4 oxy's to get off gear - only methadone, mst,dhc,df118's cant think of any more oh sub;of course . i think you can only get oxy;s via a pain clinic or private. Any opiate/opioid will stop you rattlin what ever your on - there all interchangable as they all hit the same receptors thats why you cant be addicted to 'done and gear your addicted to opiates and enough of one will stop the rattle.
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qtf
 
Edit .... Krokodil photos and videos are really disturbing. The utter despair and pain those people must suffer...

Who the fuck has a leg where the foot and knee is intact but all that's in the middle is a fucking shin and no skin? Oh my days

Yeah the dude might have hade his foot in a plastic bag , but the fucker had a good ear for music .
Did you see his Wu Tang tattoo ?

Right that's me for the night , got to be up at 10 to 5, Bath , boot & bed.
 
Rattles said:
Had my dad dying of multiple illnesses last 2 years, he kept askin for dimorph but they wouldn't 'cos they said he wasn't dying. I kept scoring for him until the drought late 2010 and he'd give me his oramorph - worked out well for both of us til the drought; the gear let him get up and about a bit and the morph was a bonus for me (I woulda done it for nothing). They said they didn't want him addicted - guess what - he died last august. Guess the fucking doctors didn't want it on their record... sorry for the rant..still pisses me off though - Doctors are supposed to think of their patients first , not their careers. Sorry I'm bitchin - coupla too many ciders in the sun..

Rattles
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An area of considerable controversy within the medical profession. One 'side' says it's unethical to cause addiction in even terminal patients and the other accuses them of 'opiophobia' and causing needless suffering. It's a matter of pure chance into which camp your doctor falls. Victims of the mad moralisers are advised to google 'pain relief/diamorphine' and contact one of the drug's advocates. If you explain your loved one's position, they'll try to put you in touch with a local sympathiser. No piss-takers, please, the opiophobe lobby is notoriously vindictive and loves nothing more than the chance to report an opiophile to the G.M.C. for suspect prescribing.
 
bogman said:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/hse-heroin-treatment-crisis-fuels-thefts-surge-3120065.html

would it be the same in the UK.
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Yeah, the waiting lists in Ireland now are crazy.

The first time I went on a course was about 13 years ago & I got onto it after 6 days.
I just had to give 2 dirty tests & then was put on the meth.
I had to travel to the doctor in Dun Laoghaire every week for the 1st few months which was an hours drive each way.
Then after I was stabilised my local doctor took me on. He was only trained to the lower level which means he could only take patients after they had been stabilised.

A mate of mine rang our local clinic last September to get on a course and he only started on it last month.
That was 7 months waiting. Crazy!!
 
strungout2010 said:
Edit .... Krokodil photos and videos are really disturbing. The utter despair and pain those people must suffer...

Who the fuck has a leg where the foot and knee is intact but all that's in the middle is a fucking shin and no skin? Oh my days

Yeah the dude might have hade his foot in a plastic bag , but the fucker had a good ear for music .
Did you see his Wu Tang tattoo ?

Right that's me for the night , got to be up at 10 to 5, Bath , boot & bed.
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Yeah shit's all over my Blackburn Rovers tattoo! Shame on a nigga who try to run game on a nigga, Wu buck wild with the trigga!

Night night junkies :)
 
charlie clean said:
An area of considerable controversy within the medical profession. One 'side' says it's unethical to cause addiction in even terminal patients and the other accuses them of 'opiophobia' and causing needless suffering. It's a matter of pure chance into which camp your doctor falls. Victims of the mad moralisers are advised to google 'pain relief/diamorphine' and contact one of the drug's advocates. If you explain your loved one's position, they'll try to put you in touch with a local sympathiser. No piss-takers, please, the opiophobe lobby is notoriously vindictive and loves nothing more than the chance to report an opiophile to the G.M.C. for suspect prescribing.
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Appreciated Charlie, and I truly value your opinions even if you're a bit too 'clean' for me on occasion. Like I say tho' my Dad's dead now - furthermore his position was complicated by coming from a culture where subtlety (or manipulating the system) was considered 'unmanly'- I think he went through about 3 GPs each one more reluctant than the last to prescribe as his notes detailed him as a 'difficult' patient with anagesic-seeking behaviour. Furthermore, despite a plethora of disorders from Hep C to Crohn's, he had nothing apparently life-threatening- this was just his own opinion, of which everyone (myself included), was sceptical. My belief was more that he was,aside from chronic pain , deeply depressed. I guess I can understand the behaviour of his Doctors, but it still remains painful,and whilst I would NEVER recommend my own behaviour in obtaining street Heroin for him, nor can I bring myself to regret the (albeit temporary) relief I brought him. Perhaps there's the possibility of a new thread on this topic cos I know I'm going away OT
 
bogman said:
http://www.independent.ie/national-...-of-heroin-found-at-dublin-house-3122246.html

15kg of what , the same old bash or a new batch of proper gear ?
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There seems to be plenty of seizures around Dublin lately, but still no good gear! I wish they would tell us what % the heroin is! What is the story? Is good quality heroin coming into the country & then its been danced on? Or is it coming in bad? I wish i knew!

Punters are still buying heroin in Dublin, but they are only buying small amounts compared to what they were buying before the drought. It really is amazing to talk to people in my methadone clinic, they have either completely stopped using heroin or else like me they are only buying small amounts every now & again. So dealers are not shifting anywhere near what they were selling before the drought.

The guy i score off says that customers that used to buy 8ths are only buying the odd €20 bag now, so if the dealers are dancing on the gear then you'd think that by now they would realize that if they didn't dance on it then people would start buying it regularly again. So maybe its coming into the country as weak crap! Its so weird!

I never thought i'd see the day that decent heroin disappeared would totally disappear from Dublin. I miss it so much, i can't believe that i still pine for it so much! But i have to wonder what would have happened to me if the drought hadn't hit? I was in so much debt & i owed so much rent that my landlord had asked me to leave, but then the drought hit i started paying my rent again, i was so near hitting my rock bottom when the drought hit! My Boyfriend & i were using more & more gear every day, i had an insatiable hunger for heroin! So i wonder were i'd be to-day if the drought hadn't come?

I still obsess about gear day & night, but i know if good gear became available again tomorrow that it would only be a matter of weeks before i'd start getting into serious debt again! Since the drought I only use gear between 2 & 4 times every 2 weeks, before the drought i used to use daily! I wonder if i would be able to stay only using occasionally if the good gear came back?

So how are people in the UK getting on since good gear became available again? A lot of yous had got used to not scoring daily when things were bad, so now that things are good again have yous gone back to using the way yous did before the drought? Or have you got used to only using occasionally? Do you have more control over you habits now?
 
@ Ructions

I give the mrs X amount of money each week( THAT'S STANDARD ) that's goes into thehouse food, bills and clothes on me daughters back. After that I pritty much spunk everything on gear & beer & juice for the motors.
But like you said now the gears getting better I just smoke / buy more .
 
Ructions: the drought and my subsequent cold turkey on methadone really made me think twice, instead of think once...and score! If I use enough to withdraw badly then I get kicked out by the misus...that's standard. I know that sounds rough but what I put us through last time was too much. She said she will tolerate some usage, but only if I don't cane it...easier said than done! However I have serious money issues so use less anyway. At the end of the day this girl is more important to me than the drug (just) if we ever split up it would be straight to a hostel and all the fun and games that involves! I'm also a really bad poly-addict so can sometimes forget about brown for a few hours.x
 
i just scored in clondalkin i got 1/16 between me + me mate - the b is the worst that i have got in along time - it runs red its pure shite - it was a total waste of cash - the only reason we scored were we did is because we met a bloke tis morn who had scored there + he swore that it was strong b - he told us a load of bollox about the b been a new batch + really strong - i just rang the mate who said it was good + told him wat i think of the b - he agrees tat it runs red but he reckons its still strong - lesson learned for the 100000 time - people dont have a clue anymore wats good + wats not! this b is not even worth smoking - when i think of the cash i hav wasted in the last 18mth - dealers must be haven a good laugh at u all
 
Yeah Strungout i reckon that if things ever improve here that i'll be right back to were i was in a matter of weeks or maybe days! Glad to hear that you have a hold on things Rattles, its good that your girlfriend doesn't use coz thats were things start to get messy. If i'm having a day were i'm feeling strong then my Boyfriend is normally crippled with cravings & then on a day he is feeling strong it will be me that is climbing the walls for gear.

But as Gizmo explained the gear has got even worse over the last few weeks, so even thought i might have cravings i can control them better as i know there is nothing worth scoring around! Although that didn't stop me scoring again to-day! Doh! But thats it now, i won't use heroin for the next 11 days, that way when i go back to the clinic i'll pass my drug test & that means i'll keep my take away! The crappy gear in Dublin is not worth losing my take away over!

Its so weird, three quarters of me wants so much for the good gear to return to Ireland, i dream about it day & night, i obsess about it! I'm constantly pine for heroin. But the other quarter of me is terrified of what will happen to me if proper heroin comes back to Dublin, after been waiting so long for it i can just see myself using & using till i'm penniless & homeless. Maybe i'm just been dramatic (my Boyfriend is always telling me i'm too dramatic!!!) coz that never happened before, but it came so damn close to it!

Anyway there is no sign of things improving anytime soon, the gear around now is the worst ever, i have been scoring since Friday & its all been bad. The beetle is see-through & it only leaves faint traces on the foil, it has that red colour to it, i think they call in manatal, i call it pure crap!
 
What's an averege "bag" anyway? 0.? or ? I've never weighed a bag obviously but i've had "tens" that were pretty sameish but bought £20 worth on the weekend & it looked like the same ammount. How much does a 20 bag typically weigh?
 
0.2 is a bag.... ructions drugs have been wiped out by police in cities before the gards could have heroin outa ireland forever...im being selfish but i hope it is wiped out
 
Man the gear Im getting now is the fucking DB's - I had to pull up on the way to work and nod out for an hour and a half after my smoke this morning as it was getting dangerous to drive.I always use to distrust powder as its so easy to cut and anyway predrought it always came in lumps but this is as pure as Ive had for years - just stoodid money but still cheAP if your paying 20 for .3/.4 and its 10%. There is plenty of shit gear in London all the shotters have crap and its getting to be a real run arouind but its worth it.

Are there others here who hav had this? - pale very powdery, sticks on yer teeth after 2 smokes and the tooter collection runs just like gear rather than frazzling after a couple of runs.

BTW bags use to be .4 for a score now its .1 for 10 hardly anyone does 20 bags now where as b4 no one did 10 bags
 
yeah 0.1 is 10, 4 for 25, weights vary. I get that stuff ^ but only up north not in London which is annoying right now! But probably a vary good thing!

Anyways, only a couple of days til im on again :)
 
sorry if my appearance on here is boring people...but just wanted to know if anyone on here as experience of taking beta-blockers and gear?

I got a prescription for Propanolol yesterday for panic attacks. Just wondering if there were any negative/positive things to look out for when indulging?
 
^ Low blood pressure & bradychardia with propranolol. On it's own it can make you feel light-headed & faint.

Anyway. So some people on here are saying 0.2 for a "score" or £20 as it's known without lingo, others saying o.4 which is it?

Am I right in thinking that if you pay £20, sorry a "score", you should get 0.2 as in 200 milligrammes? & if you're buying a gram 0.8 or 800 milligrammes is the acceptable weight for what you've paid? (£50)
 
I don't post much but joined when the drought started.

Just thought i'd post what I've been thinking the whole time it's been going on.

Has no one noticed that the drought started in Nov/Dec 2010 and before that the gear was good for 10+ years (minor droughts here and there, summer 2008 one of them)

The government changed power to the Conservatives in April/May 2010 just enough time to cause mayhem.

And before the government being Labour for 13 years.

Many conspiracy theorists (Truthers) say that some governments around the world have been secretly been controlling supply for decades.

??????
 
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