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chemically insane is a nazi vs. lets not get ahead of ourselves

rules and speculations

  • school is cool

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • CI is a fool

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • its not what you know, its what you can prove

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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It might not be 100% but there was no doubt in my mind.

I can say without a doubt that what you took was piperazines. Sounds like the classic BZP + TFMPP mix.

There is a difference between saying there is no doubt in your mind and "I can say without a doubt that what you took was piperazines"
 
I think this entire argument boils down to: is PR, Edata and BL a good sample? I understand that random sampling is ideal and that all of the above sources rely on convince sampling, which may be the worst type. However these websites do in fact contain all walks of life. From the dude who talks in all caps and uses terrible grammer, to the extremely educated bio chemist. My point is although convenience sampling does not always produce a good sample, in this case because of the wide range of users it very well may.

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I think this entire argument boils down to: is PR, Edata and BL a good sample? I understand that random sampling is ideal and that all of the above sources rely on convince sampling, which may be the worst type. However these websites do in fact contain all walks of life. From the dude who talks in all caps and uses terrible grammer, to the extremely educated bio chemist. My point is although convenience sampling does not always produce a good sample, in this case because of the wide range of users it very well may.

-Blanch

While this is an excellent point, and PR probably does have a decent sample cross section, it's still very much convenience sampling, which is not nearly accurate enough to back up the numbers and statements being thrown around here. The fact of the matter is, you can't know for sure. Telling people that you can is wrong and is not harm reduction.
 
But he did take piperazines. So why is it a problem?

How do we know this, did he gert a urinalysis and share the results with you? You might be sure he took them but that doesnt make it right... thats speculation

Well if he's going to quote me out of context he should at least include the link back to view the thread...

When your constantly moving the goalposts, everything becomes out of context in your favor...

Youre free to post any link here if you want to use it in your argument. :)
 
Well if you would provide a link back I could post a quote where the OP said they threw up foam. An obvious sign of piperazines.
Im not gonna do your homework for you.

Ive thrown up foam from spice, booze & guacamole, opiates, the flu... pretty sure tyats not a definite indicator

That and other things led me to a very solid conclusion that what he took was a piperazine.
Its a fairly solid hypothesis and worth exploring, however it is most definately not conclusive evidence.

What are the "other things"? if you dont mind me asking.
 
Let me see the thread and I'll tell you

First you challenged me to prove you wrong, i did not accept. What makes you think id accept an offer to "prove you right" when we dont agree?

Its your job to post your argument, that post is public and viewable and linkable, you can post it if your interested, im not doing your homework
 
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