Anyone else notice that WEED is the only drug that you CANNOT use all your life?

[Chesh]

To the dude who says he feels anxious from smoking, "for no reason"; the fact alone that you probably believe you're going to have anxiety or paranoia after smoking predispositions you to having anxiety or paranoia after you smoke. Your mind is a powerful thing.

Possibly, I'll think about it next time it happens. Could also be exam stress manifesting itself in a weird way. Or maybe both. I bottle a lot of stuff up to be fair, so perhaps when I'm high it just all comes out as seemingly arbitrary anxiety.

I hope there's a cause, because then that means it can be resolved.

I take back what I said earlier about there not having to be a cause and about it having nothing to do with 'truth', because I was using my own experience as evidence but it's pretty likely I was wrong and that there is a reason for it all.

 

[burn out]

So what if someone has smoked for 25 years and on their 25th year they suddenly had a panic attack on weed. Just because I didn't have anxiety yesterday or today doesn't mean I won't experience it tomorrow. Life is complicated, shit happens. You can't always be Mr. Stability. That doesn't mean weed is causing your anxiety. It means you are a human being who experiences emotions.

Cannabis gives you what you need. If you haven't eaten today and you smoke, it's liable to make you hungry; if you haven't slept it's liable to make you tired; and if you are ignoring something that is causing you fear, it's likely to shove that fear right back in your face so that you will deal with it. I would even say that cannabis can be a teacher that shows you your own inner world.

Until you cite research that clearly demonstrates cannabis directly induces panic, you are full of shit. /end thread

Why can't it be both? Of course cannabis can be a teacher that shows you your inner world. It is an entheogen like magic mush or cactus. It is certainly the case that some of the anxiety people experience with marijuana, has to do with their own issues being brought to surface by the plant.

But, in my opinion (and this is what I have been trying to communicate the entire thread) cannabis can also cause panic/anxiety as a side effect when heavily abused. I know this to be true from my own experience and the experiences of other people and I don't need science to back it up but I will post some studies for you when I get done. Here's why I know it was marijuana that caused my anxiety and not my own issues. WHen I first started smoking marijuana, I had my fair share of personal issues but back then marijuana never made me anxious. All it did was help me and serve as a teacher like you said. Because of this I fell in love with marijuana and became one of those people who thinks it is completely harmless and I began smoking it all the time. For a while it served as a wonderful teacher and taught me a great many truths about the universe and brought me closer to God. But it eventually, it got to the point where I wasn't really learning anything new from it and just smoking it out of boredom and addiction. That's when the effects eventually began to change and become negative. A large aspect of the anxiety effect was physical. For example, even if I was mentally calm, my heart would race hard and my body would tense up as if I was experiencing anxiety. It got so bad that I was having a panic attack on a daily bases.

Now I know that I didn't suddenly develop a whole bunch of issues. No, something in the way cannabis effected my brain physiologically, changed. Further proof that it was cannabis that caused my panic and not having to confront my inner world, is the fact that I have never had this problem with LSD, mushrooms or DMT. Now wouldn't you agree that those drugs also make you confront yourself? So, if I had some problem with confronting myself, you would think it would be apparent with those drugs also. But on the contrary, it was ONLY cannabis that gave me problems with panic attacks and anxiety and not the so called more powerful psychedelics. I'm not the only person like this either. Just head over to the psychedelic forum and ask the people there, and you will see there are several people who agree with me. They find cannabis especially anxiogenic.

But since you're incapable of taking my word for it, here is some research on cannabis and panic

lifetime marijuana use was significantly associated with increased odds of a lifetime panic attack history.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20384424


Structured interview data suggest lifetime cannabis dependence is significantly associated with an increased risk of panic attacks.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16271364

 

[OGKooosh]

i've smoked weed for 6, years pretty infrequently for the first 3 years, but the last 3 have been very steady like gram plus a day. but i will say this i learned the first 2 years of smoking that any paranoia i experience is usually totally unfounded. me and my friends back then actually would relish stories about freaking out over nothing hahaha. so basically now even though i do experience some degree of paranoia from pot at times its never something i carry with me past the event.

all this being said i need to cut back.

 

[Captain Brewster]

I've been smoking for around 8 years, every day, the only time I had full blown anxiety over it was after the old man passed away.
I kept smoking but not flat-out through the day, just at night to sleep.
When I was smoking through the day I would get rapid heartbeat, sweats paranoia.

2 months have passed and I'm back smoking as much as I used to, all the anxiety while smoking has gone, I just get it when I'm not smoking. Just though this might be interesting because I saw a few posts on the first page, saying people get it NOT from things going on in their life.

Anyway, it's about time I had a break, atleast a week would be nice, just wish I didn't have so much stress and problems in my life atm. I know these days its a habit that started off as a sleep aid, and turned into a daily addiction.
Funny thing is I think it's not helping me sleep anymore, for months ive been waking up every 2-4 hours and I won't fall back to sleep till I've smoked, f-ing sucks balls.

 

[Chee$e]

Marijuana is one of the very few drugs in the world that alleviates the same symptoms that it causes. This is what makes it a lot more dangerous than other drugs. Many think weed is harmless until they quit it for a few weeks and the symptoms of shit they didn't even know existed in them start to come out when they have been sober (derealization, anxiety, panic, depersonalization)

Lots of people who report anxiety, derealization, and side effects of weed say that it starts to surface upon quitting the drug. The whole time they had these symptoms that weed caused but never knew it because Marijuana acts as a pain and anxiety reliever whilst high, but upon sobering up, the effects are almost exactly the opposite. An anxiety and HPPD inducing substance.

As I said, this does not happen in all people and others may mistake this for "withdrawals" from THC but this is not true. The majority of pot smokers don't start to see its side effects until they have heavily abused it until their body finally has enough or until the user cessates the drug and the symptoms start to come out during sobriety. This is what happened to me, a couple of my friends, and tons of posts I have read on the internet from desperate suffering people who are now pill poppers because of Marijuana abuse.

Quote form a 35 year daily pot user:

But ever since I quit Pot my memory is getting worse. Like I said, Pot has this uncanny ability to mask the damage it's doing by relieving the symptoms of the damage. But once it gets completely out of you, the symptoms show up.

http://forums.webmd.com/3/substance-abuse-exchange/forum/233

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Cheese you obviously have an agenda.

 

[nekointheclouds]

Cheese you obviously have an agenda.

I agree.

This thread has run its course IMO. I'm closing this thread with this statement:

Everyone is effected differently by drugs in various ways. Cheese your original post in no way can represent everyone. There will ALWAYS be plenty of people who agree and disagree with you. I personally know people and members of my family who have smoked for 50 years. My dad still smokes. My uncle recently returned to smoking weed to help him with trouble eating from prescription opiates after not smoking since he and my dad were in there 20s. Its did him wonders. There is no blanket example for how people will react if they smoke weed all there life, if you have a bad reaction when you smoke then maybe its not for you any more. But to say weed looses it's magic for everyone down the road is ridiculous.

/closed