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Anyone else notice that WEED is the only drug that you CANNOT use all your life?

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There are PLENTY of people that have smoked all their life.. I think people that abuse the shit out of pot and smoke it like all day everyday may get this thing the OP is talking about, but if you respect it and only use it once in awhile and not everyday then its an incredible plant to relax and just chill, talk with friends and have a good time...
 
I think it has alot to do with how content you are with your life and how much underlying anxiety you already have that the weed intensifies. Say you smoke one day and get a panic attack and decide to quit. you might smoke again in a month when youve maybe gone out and got a job or something instead of getting stoned all day and your in a better place and be perfectly fine. Its all about wether its the right time for you to be smoking or not. Some people never reach a "wrong" time and some people do. iv been throught phases where id get bad anxiety from smoking but at a time like right now im stoned and feel great. its not like your just fucked and have to give up on it for life if you get a couple bad highs it just meens lay off for a bit.
 
I think it has alot to do with how content you are with your life and how much underlying anxiety you already have that the weed intensifies. Say you smoke one day and get a panic attack and decide to quit. you might smoke again in a month when youve maybe gone out and got a job or something instead of getting stoned all day and your in a better place and be perfectly fine. Its all about wether its the right time for you to be smoking or not. Some people never reach a "wrong" time and some people do. iv been throught phases where id get bad anxiety from smoking but at a time like right now im stoned and feel great. its not like your just fucked and have to give up on it for life if you get a couple bad highs it just meens lay off for a bit.
 
Chee$e said:
It's sad, but true.

For example, take someone who drinks one time per week.

40-50 years down the road, if that person has a drink on the weekends, as usual he will get a buzz from the alcohol.


Now take a person who has smoked Marijuana once a week, chances are, 40-50 years down the road, if he tries to smoke weed again, rather than getting high like he used to in the "golden days" he will met with paranoia, confusion, and anxiety.

In essence, weed is one of the very few drugs that is only enjoyable in the first few years of use, before drastically the high changes and starts going against you.

It is a common trend amongst almost all stoners I meet:

"Yeah bro, I used to smoke daily for like 5 years straight but then instead of getting high, my heart would just race and I would get super paranoid"

It is sad that Mary Jane cannot be enjoyed forever and for one's whole life time.

The farthest I have seen someone make it getting pleasurable high's from weed is 40 years (and he was an "on and off" smoker throughout his life)
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You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about, son. I started tokin weed in 1969 & have been a daily toker since. Weed is the 1 drug that the older 1 gets, the less weed it takes to cop that major buzz. It's amazing how that works out. I don't need to smoke more than 3-4 bonghits & I'm at maximum altitude.
Back in the 1970s & 80s, I could toke that killer Colombian Red Bud all day & evening. Now? Not a chance. My tolerance has decreased over the years & the only thing I can come up with is that the THC has accumulated in my system & just a little bit of weed is all I need. Plus I have a few grower pals who are masters at their profession & what they send me is some excellent smoke. I noticed over the years that the anxiety/paranoia decreases & the relaxation seems to be the dominant force.
I'll toke until I croak & consider weed to be the best way to relax at age 57. Beats the hell outta alcohol, which as I aged, started giving me hangovers that lasted longer than the booze buzz. I've quit drinking, quit the cigs...but will NEVER quit tokin the best plant on Earth.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
You obviously haven't spoken to many older stoners. I know plenty of people in their 60s and 70s who are just fine smoking a joint or two every evening instead of alcohol. To them, the high hasn't changed so much that they don't enjoy the experience. I get the impression you're prejudiced against cannabis simply because of your own negative experience.
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Not only my experience, but the experience of countless other people. The OP may have gone too far in claiming that this happens to every weed smoker. I never said that. I know there are people who have been smoking weed much of their lives. I have met people like that. But for every 50 year old stoner you talk to, how do you know there isn't another 50 year old person who used to love weed in their youth but either had to stop because they started getting negative effects, or just stopped getting a pleasurable high from it? I mean, even the Grateful Dead describe this. Don't any of you listen to the Grateful Dead?

What in the world ever became of sweet Jane?
She lost her sparkle you know she isn't the same
Living on reds and vitamin C and cocaine
All her friends can say is ain't it a shame

I don't know how you guys can go on denying it, when there are so many people saying this happened to them. Just google "Marijuana anxiety panic". Statistics also show that most marijuana users stop smoking by their late 20s. If the high didn't change, and it remained just as enjoyable as it always was, why would most people stop using it?

I remember when I first started smoking, I used to hang out at my dealer's house and we'd all get blazed except for this one girl who would never smoke with us and would always drink instead. One time, my dealer asked her why she wouldn't smoke weed and tried to explain to her how much better than alcohol it was. She said "I used to smoke all the time, but then it started making me anxious and paranoid, so I switched to alcohol" and my dealer (a heavy stoner himself) gave her a knowing look and said nothing more on the matter. He did not say "What are you talking about bitch? Da herb is a gift from God", he accepted her answer completely. It was obvious to me at the time, that he knew something I didn't know, because back then, as far as I was concerned, anyone who freaked out on weed, was weak minded and needed to learn how to handle an introspective experience. Years later, when weed finally turned on me, I remember thinking back to that moment, and understanding.
 
Chesh said:
you obviously haven't experienced proper paranoia/anxiety on weed before, it's not something you can just 'face head on' or control and it definitely has nothing to do with the truth.
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Hi friend. I know where you're coming from, but actually it is just like that. You can control it. The universe is just a projection of the mind.
 
Some people develop anxiety from their cannabis use. However that is not to say that most older smokers end up giving up because of it. So far, the only evidence offered is an internet video, song lyrics and anecdotes. For every older smoker you know that's given up for all you know I could know 10 that still enjoy it as much as the day they started smoking.

If statistics show that most people stop smoking in their late 20s I can tell you now, it's not because they suffer from ill effects, it is because they've grown out of it and don't want to rebel like they once did in their youth. It's a cultural phenomenon and not some inherent quality of the drug itself.
 
burn out said:
I don't know how you guys can go on denying it, when there are so many people saying this happened to them. Just google "Marijuana anxiety panic". Statistics also show that most marijuana users stop smoking by their late 20s. If the high didn't change, and it remained just as enjoyable as it always was, why would most people stop using it?
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It's well known that it happens to a lot of people, but it's certainly not everyone. Also, there are people like me who have had weed "turn on them" but just figured out how to use it more wisely to avoid the side effects. Weed is a psychedelic and it will make you intimately aware of the fact that your marijuana use is problematic if indeed it is.
 
burn out said:
How did you come up with 99%? Let's take a look at just the people who have responded to this thread. If it was true that only 1% of stoners experience this and since far fewer than one hundred people have responded, we should expect that no one besides the OP would have experienced the paranoia/anxiety high change.

However, three people have already responded saying it has either happened to them or they know many people whom it has happened to, compared to six people claiming it hasn't happened to them and denying it commonly happens to others (counting you as a denier). The rest of the people who responded neither affirmed, nor denied the OPs claims so I did not count them.

Anyway, if it were in fact true that less than 1% of stoners experienced this, it would be highly unlikely that we would see such a high percentage of them in this thread. Furthermore, most people who quit cannabis due to the paranoia no longer frequent the cannabis forum. When I was a stoner, I used to come here all the time but now that I no longer smoke, I only check this board once every couple of years. It's no secret that most of the members of cannabis discussion are current cannabis smokers. Thus, if anything, those who have quit due to paranoia are under represented here. That's why I ask you, what you base this one % on?
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Dude wtf did you even read my post or the op's posts?? OP is sayin marijuana WILL turn on 99% of chronic smokers and im saying this is ridiculous fear mongering.
 
jazz hands said:
It's well known that it happens to a lot of people, but it's certainly not everyone. Also, there are people like me who have had weed "turn on them" but just figured out how to use it more wisely to avoid the side effects. Weed is a psychedelic and it will make you intimately aware of the fact that your marijuana use is problematic if indeed it is.
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I never said it was everyone, so it seems we are in agreement.
 
Mahavatar said:
Dude wtf did you even read my post or the op's posts?? OP is sayin marijuana WILL turn on 99% of chronic smokers and im saying this is ridiculous fear mongering.
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I said that I thought the OP went too far in saying that it would happen to 99% of weed smokers. In my opinion, it happens to a significant percentage of heavy long term users, not people who only smoke on the weekends. Even smoking once per day, isn't that heavy in my opinion. I mean, I used to smoke six joints a day. That's heavy usage.
 
burn out said:
not people who only smoke on the weekends.
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Then what about people like me who only smoke it 1-3 times a week AT MOST and suffer the anxiety that comes from it?

I don't even think you have to be a daily smoker to see this.

Hell, last weekend I was stoned Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and literally the next Friday I was randomly hit with a huge anxious wave whilst sitting on the computer in the daytime. It just randomly hit me, and I wasn't even high man.

My family has no history of anxiety whatsoever and I had no symptoms of it whatsoever until I started smoking 1-3 times a week.
 
One of my youth group leaders back in my last year of high school told me that he used to smoke weed.

He said that he loved it but would smoke it only on the weekends with his wife. He told me he started smoking it in his last year of college when he was 22 (started later than most people) and quit it at age 32.

I asked him why he quit. He said that in the last few years before he quit, he noticed that the tipping scale of Enjoyability vs. Paranoia was leaning more towards the right. In other words, he started losing the enjoyability of it and the paranoia started to present itself more. He told me that every joint he smoked would tip more towards the paranoia side than the enjoyable side, and would tip further each time he got high. He also told me that him and his wife quit at the exact same time for the exact same reasons.
 
Chee$e said:
Then what about people like me who only smoke it 1-3 times a week AT MOST and suffer the anxiety that comes from it?

I don't even think you have to be a daily smoker to see this.

Hell, last weekend I was stoned Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and literally the next Friday I was randomly hit with a huge anxious wave whilst sitting on the computer in the daytime. It just randomly hit me, and I wasn't even high man.

My family has no history of anxiety whatsoever and I had no symptoms of it whatsoever until I started smoking 1-3 times a week.
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I am certainly not saying that it ONLY happens to heavy daily users or that it NEVER happens to weekend smokers. I am simply saying that claiming that 99% of all weed smokers are going to suffer anxiety and panic attacks eventually is vastly over stating the phenomenon.

Why did it happen to you? Some people are more sensitive to the anxiety effect than others. I would say that you probably fall toward the more sensitive end of the spectrum but I have heard of people who smoke even less than you getting the panic attacks.
 
Chee$e said:
"Yeah bro, I used to smoke daily for like 5 years straight but then instead of getting high, my heart would just race and I would get super paranoid"

It is sad that Mary Jane cannot be enjoyed forever and for one's whole life time.

The farthest I have seen someone make it getting pleasurable high's from weed is 40 years (and he was an "on and off" smo
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That is some very very flawed logic. I mean, what you are saying doesn't go past the typical anecdote. Personally speaking I've been smoking cannabis on and off for the last 7 years. I've had bad times with it and good times with it. Taking a break every now and again is good, this is true of all forms of substances.
 
It can happen sure but there is lots of evidence to the contrary as well. My dad has been a stoner since the age of 13 and he still uses it almost every day and hes 46 now and still loves it.
 
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