The Big and Dandy Etaqualone Thread

[CoReCoNTAX]

I don’t know whether the batch that's currently circulating is in freebase or salt form, but has anyone tried smoking it yet? I read on another site that it was very active via this ROA, and that 50mg smoked was roughly equivalent to a 500mg oral dose. This is only second hand information, so take care if you try this ROA.

When i tired smoking this (only around 15mg), there was heavy black smoke and it gave a kind of stimulant rush (I hate all forms of stimulants) that why I havnt tried this ROA again but I am tempted to smoke 50mg of it just to see if it works, seems like an awfully large and unhealthy amount to smoke though....

 

[randomer945]

When i tired smoking this (only around 15mg), there was heavy black smoke and it gave a kind of stimulant rush (I hate all forms of stimulants) that why I havnt tried this ROA again but I am tempted to smoke 50mg of it just to see if it works, seems like an awfully large and unhealthy amount to smoke though....

The person who mentioned smoking it on another forum mentioned that the smoke tasted disgusting aswell, but that it produced strong euphoria. Were you applying a flame directly to the compound or were you vaporizing it?

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

I know methaqualone sounds really great but, judging by the way this stuff feels it seems very inefficient in comparison to the amount you have to take. Earlier I took around 600mg orally on a very empty stomach and it actually felt really great (once again after about 40-50minutes of dosing) but it plateau'd and started wearing off almost in the space of 10-20 minutes. Im almost getting the impression you need to take up to 2grams of this stuff to get where you want to be, but even then the duration wont be that long and that could possibly be dangerous and it would obviously be way too costly.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

The person who mentioned smoking it on another forum mentioned that the smoke tasted disgusting aswell, but that it produced strong euphoria. Were you applying a flame directly to the compound or were you vaporizing it?

yeah the smoke didn't taste good and felt pretty harsh on the lungs, I applied the flame directly to the compound.

 

[Torabora]

here is the promised spectra:

1-2 mg freebase were dissolved in 200uL of Ethylacetate and were measured underivatized on a Agilent 6890 GC/MS System w/5973 MSD.

M+ Ion and right fragment-ions are there, also NIST search confirmed that it is etaqualone with 3 direct hits and nearly identical spectras

 

[General alcazar]

Thanks so much for that GC. Wish I could have that info on all chemicals acquired.
Anyways vaporized this for the first time. Put 50 mg in a glass tube and able to smoke some of it. Smoke burned my throat but there is indeed a short, really nice sedative rush with euphoria. It doesn't last very long though... It's also hard to vaporize as the liquid creeps up the glass and only stubbornly turns to vapor. Did people inject metaqualone or anyone try with etaqualone ? This is probably superdangerous but I was curious if anyone has ever tried. Needless to say no one should...

 

[negrogesic]

Negrogesic I don't suppose you can comment on how your experience went? I don't remember your warning thread too well - was that your first time with ETQ? And I thought 200-300mg was an optimal dose...?

From my recollection oral doses of ~300-500mg were certainly 'active' but were no more intriguing than say 700-1050mg of carisoprodol. I probably tested the compound 5 or 6 times before I had the incident. While I have only tested methaqualone a grand total of 3 times (one of which was tainted by stimulant use), it certainly had a swifter and more discernible onset.

 

[General alcazar]

200 mg orally had no perceptible effect. Could it be that as a freebase it does not absorb well. Might be worth making it a salt before eating, snorting or plugging it... This has turned into a disappointment but I can't help feeling I'm missing something...

 

[negrogesic]

I should note that my incident with etaqualone occurred after 'smoking' the compound on foil. I had already taken an oral dose, but finding the effect mediocre, I decided to 'smoke' the powder. The etaqualone vapor was quite acrid and difficult to smoke, with a sharp sting upon inhalation (similar to tar heroin), but lacking in the immediate 'rush' I was seeking. In my foolishness, I continued to smoke the compound incrementally until I found the effect not worth the discomfort caused by the vapor. I failed to take into account pharmacokinetics, and after I gave up smoking the compound I remained conscious for roughly 20 minutes, during which I prepared to shower, applied a facial mask (something I typically never do). Their last thing I can remember was some frantic search for pen and paper (while naked and wearing the green facial mask), in some sort of stimulated ataxia reminiscent of large doses of carisoprodol.

The next thing I knew, I found myself intubated at an ICU (days later)...

Keep in mind, in the past I've been brash enough to inject a solution named Euthasol, but I suppose this only fostered the impudence that landed me in the ICU. Out of all my exploits, the only compound to land in me in the hospital was this otherwise rather boring compound.....

 

[psaxxon]

Hmmm, how come everything's exciting looking until I order 3g and then it becomes boring? Typical :D

Ok, got 3g that will be here tomorrow. Been pissing about with etizolam for a week or so although only did 1.5mg today, given a 6hr half-life of the etizolam I reckon I should be fine with 300mg of the etaqualone 24hrs or so later, or am I missing summat and should give it another day?

I know they're small doses I'm talking about but these substances are a relatively new area to me and I'd rather not do anything stupid here so that's why I'm asking.

 

[Torabora]

yes you should be safe after 24h with no etizolam

 

[Burgensteiner]

Hello,

I have been reading this forum for about 3 years now and finally decided to join in.
Hope that my English skills will be good enough.

I really would like to find out more about Etaqualone.
This stuff sounds great, but is it really worth the risk?
The last posts did not confirm my image of this drug, but I would be satisfied with a nice high, it does not have to be very strong.

I already got some and will make a cautious try within the next days.

Regards
Burgensteiner

 

[psaxxon]

Ok, so my 3g arrived this morning, dabbed an allergy test at 8.30 am all fine there.

Taking the warnings into account, plus the (pretty good) idea that this sample is in the region of 99% purity and that the prescribed dosage when in medical use in Europe I believe was 300mg. Also with my previous etizolam usage during the week I decided on 200mg and took that orally at 11:30am, my girlfriend is in the house, is sober and knows what I am doing.

I started feeling some mild effects after 20 minutes, I was moving around and felt some effect on my general physical equilibrium, this built over about the next 25 minutes into a plateau. I am obviously still feeling this as I only took it an hour and a half or so ago, the feeling is going to be quite difficult to explain as I have few reference points to liken it to but I definitely like it

It is mild (at least at this dose) but very definitely there for me, a very pleasant cosy, relaxed euphoria. I have never felt euphoria from diazapam, etizolam, tamazepam, anxiolytic effects certainly but not euphoric. There is a very pleasant low level body buzz there, mainly in my lower body. No serious effect on balance or co-ordination that anyone else would be able to discern but it feels when I am walking something similar to like I have had a few beers and I wouldn't choose to drive.

If this is anything at all like methaqualone (albeit in 'diluted' form) I can understand why it was so popular, it's nice. Probably for me dangerously nice, I could see this would be quite difficult for me to leave alone as a little 'daytime plaything'. I'm heeding negrogesics warning about smoking this and I'm not going down that route, I will try a 300mg dose orally maybe tomorrow or the day after and see where that goes.

It is mild but it's nice enough to easily want more, I can understand how it led him into trouble but I have the benefit of his warning so I'm going to take it easy and just enjoy it for what it is, a mild but very pleasant feeling, if I want to get seriously fucked I'll be looking elsewhere.

 

[Burgensteiner]

I could not wait and tested the stuff (orally administered).
At first I made an allergy test and then I took 125mg.

The first effects took place after about ten minutes.
The peak was reached after about 30 minutes and then started to wear off.

So you can say I was high for about 40 minutes. It was a short high, but I think this is alright, because I only took this low dose.
I felt a nice euphoria, had to laugh several times and my body felt like I had some beers, a relaxed body high.
I find that the high has some similarities with GBL/GHB.

90 minutes after ingestion I still felt a bit sedated and tried some nitrous oxide. I did not notice any interaction, but be careful.
As you know Methaqualone is often smoked with cannabis. Did anyone tried to combine Etaqualone with Cannabis?

 

[psaxxon]

I'd imagine it would be a really good combo for you lucky bastards that can do it

I can't, I caned it heavily in my teens and now it's anything but enjoyable, more like instant anxiety and paranoia. I had hoped the synthetic cannabinoids might be a way around it but the couple I have tried have been worse if anything. I'm alright if I stick to once or twice a year with heavy doses of some heavy anxiolytic that's longer lasting than the weed, as you'd imagine I don't bother.
I'd imagine an etaqualone and cannabinoid combo for me might be fine until the etaqualone wears off but then I'd need benzos or the etaqualone bump that doesn't seem a very good idea on the info we have at hand..

Give it a go, there are posts further back that seemed to rate the combo...

 

[Torabora]

psaxxon I have the same problem with weed but I learned that I just have to smoke waaayyyyyy less then everyone else to be relaxed (just 2 or 3 small drag's) maybe you try that one out too?

back to topic:

I have also tried 200mg oraly yesterday, it was fun and very relaxing but I took it just like 1 minute before eating so it took like 45 minutes until I started to feel a but drunk then later I plateaued for like 45 minutes and than it started to wear off but when I was going to bed 3 hours later I still felt quite relaxed and slept very nice the main effects weren't very strong (but I guess because of my full stomach effects where stretched and so it wasnt so strong) but it was quite euphoric which I haven't experienced on benzos yet but the muscle relaxing effect felt weaker then on etizolam but I felt way more intoxicated all in all it was quite nice but I have to try it again on a empty stomach

 

[Fossil_Diver]

I don't have any experience with the analogues but I have had tons of experience with ludes going all the way back to the Rorer days. Damn I miss ludes. My friend got busted with 250,000 of them in black plastic trash bags in his house and that put an end to the party in my town. The best advise I can give is don't mix with alcohol and never try to drive (drool, nod, sound of screeching tires and crunching metal. Blood, hair and brain matter on smashed windsheild. Got the picture?). Even riding a bicycle is damn near impossible, you will wake up the next day all banged up and not remember how it happened and your bike will look like it got thrown off the Empire State Building. I loved ludes, they felt to me like being extremely drunk and numb without any of the bad side effects of booze. They also feel very much like Seconal to me. If I had to do a blind test I would have a hard time telling the difference. BTW we used to smoke ludes on occasion. I don't recomend smoking pills but smoking ludes was absolutely amazing. One good toke and within seconds you felt like you ate 3 or 4 of them and then you would be back to baseline in a few minutes. If someone mixed ludes with crack and smoked it I couldn't even imagine what the high would be like. There was a comic in National Lampoon called Pro Golfers On Ludes. If it's on the internet read it. Funny as hell. Loo,loo,loook! Lu,lu,lu,loooodes!

 

[negrogesic]

Man I totally understand the warning now. The effects of this drug are so mild the natural inclination is to take higher doses. However our body doesn't seem to be able to take this. This product is seriously, seriously dangerous and will inevitably end up killing someome reckless if the vendor/s don't do something about it.

I'm contemplating emailing them...

I don't think that is necessary. Plus, I wouldn't characterize etaqaualone as being, "seriously, seriously dangerous". However, when compared to the commonly encountered RC depressants (such as BZDs, albeit highly potently), etaqualone seems to carry a greater propensity for inadvertent overdose. Again, the inherent problem seems to be that the compound appears to produce a mediocre or unspectacular high at moderate doses (based on what I gather from experience reports), and further dose escalations to achieve a greater 'high' may result in serious 'complications'.

Plus, I imagine that most users of the RC grade compound (myself included) are not old enough to have lived in a time where 'ludes' were remotely available. Yet, we have all heard the glowing descriptions of 'ludes' from our 'elders', and some users of etaqualone may try to recreate the high described by their hippy uncle, etc. The attempt to do so using etaqualone may be met with frustration, disappointment or cardiopulmonary failure. I don't recall reading many glowing reports of etaqaulone. Despite structural similarity to methaqualone, etaqualone is not detected in tox-screens, despite the continued testing (to this day) for methaqualone in most comprehensive inpatient tox-screens. Thus, particularly given the fact that most users of RC etaqualone are also using various other detectable compounds, any fatality caused primarily from etaqualone will likely 'fly under the radar', and ruled a multiple drug overdose. However, if some other shitwit manages to land himself in an ICU due to a similar etaqualone 'dose miscalculation', they may not share my concern to NOT mention the name of the causative compound to hospital staff.

Note: You should always be honest with your treating physicians, particularly when said honesty pertains to your treatment outcome. I found the discussion of the causative compound irrelevant in my case, because despite continued hospitalization for a number of days after 'waking', the treatment had already been 'rendered' during the first days following my comatose intake. Despite their inability to identify the cause, a hospital staff is trained to properly treat a patient who presents with a similar set of symptoms.

 

[psaxxon]

Did the 300mg the next day and not all that much different from the 200mg, maybe a few days gap and I'll shoot for 350-400mg, won't be going any higher. It's certainly not going to be setting anyone's world alight this one, feels very nice for what it is but given mild effects, short duration and price I won't be going for any more.

 

[Mercc96]

Has anybody tried using this the south african way? Mixed with cannabis or maybe even cannabis and a stimulant ( although this would be very dangerous)
But I cant imagine smoking 200mg of material with cannabis will be that great for your lungs.