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The Most Gentle Psychedelics Thread

until i discovered 4ho-met, -mipt was my fav 4sub, bc of its user friendly nature, amongst other wonderful qualities. theres a little bit of the jitters on the comeup, but overall it is smooth and relaxing imo.

like someone else mentioned, lots of giggles. no dark corners afaik of; and ive tried it up to 40-50mg in a night. worse i could see happenin was its made me feel flush and jittery the first 30 minutes or so, but thatsw all 4subs for me.. after tht, its smooth sailin :)
 
From what I've gathered (mostly through reading/discussion), these would be among the msot "gentle" psychs:

2C-C
4-HO-MET
4-AcO-MET
5-MeO-DALT
low-dose mescaline
5-Apb
Salvia leaves/extract, chewed
MDEA (not a true psychedelic, but close enuff) ;)
HBWR seeds
Low-dose 4-AcO-DMT
4-MeO-PCP (reasonable doses)
Low-dose LSD

Keep in mind that not all of these are both physically and emotionally "gentle"...some are strongly one or the other. In a lot of cases, it's not WHAT you take but HOW MUCH you take that makes the difference :)
 
Ultrapsyber said:
Eeek! LOL that's interesting how you say 2C-I! For me personally, that was the most awful experience I have had, and that was on both occasions that I have tried it... I've posted about it several times on Bluelight...

It was FAR from gentle (for me)... I found it be to be quite 'violent'... in that the entire trip was very strange... had an element of uncertainty... the visuals themselves were absolutely mindblowing... the most intense hallucinations (eg: calendar on toilet door seemed to be 'floating' and moved clockwise whilst the toilet door moved anticlockwise)... but all this was accompanied with an excruciating headache (tight band around the head feeling)... nausea and vomiting... and you know when you kinda tilt your head/squint/frown when you're really confused/unsure... I felt like I was doing that the entire time...
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I'm with you 100% my 2c-i experience was also extremely violent and overwhelming, even at a low dose. I would not recommend this for anyone looking for a gentle ride when there are substances with much much fewer negative reports such as 4-HO-MET and DIPT as others have mentioned in this thread.

Remember that with RCs there is a much smaller pool of people writing reports so you don't get a truly accurate representation of the drug. As of this posting, erowid has around 138 reports for 2c-i and 56 are 'difficult trips' meaning that 40% of people considered 2c-i a 'difficult experience.' More importantly, 13 are classified as 'train wrecks' making that 9% of the total pool. That doesn't seem gentle to me and I would feel horrible guilt for suggesting it to anyone.
 
to whoever said 2c-c apparantly only lasts 2hrs:

it def lasts longer than two hrs. a low/medium dose(~30-40mg) lasts around 4-6 hrs, but once it gets into higher doses like 60-100mg, ive found its duration to increase to an average of 6-8hrs.

i cant think of any PEA's that only last two hrs. in fact, most phenthylamines seem to take 1-2 hrs to even fully develop. never tried 2c-d, but i think that is the shortest lasting of the 2c's, but according to pihkal, even it has a duration of 4-6hrs.

the only compounds ive tried that would fall in a hr-2hr range are a couple of tryptmines, would maybe be a small dose of say DPT, or DMT. its been a while, but iirc 4-ho-dipt has a fairly short duration as well. def the shortest of the 4subs from what i remember.
 
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nos - weed - 2CB (with about 50-80mg mdma before). failing that ketamine.
 
Is 15mg-20mg 2c-b enough for a decent trip i ate approx that much and had visuals for oveer 9 hours mixed with mdma - and umm ya well the 2c-b was so gentle i think its hard to tell that you are even on it until the walls start swirling lol
 
its a bit off topic, but is there any rc psychedelic that comes close to lsd? i wasnt able to find any lsd in the last 10 years.
 
As of this posting, erowid has around 138 reports for 2c-i and 56 are 'difficult trips' meaning that 40% of people considered 2c-i a 'difficult experience.' More importantly, 13 are classified as 'train wrecks' making that 9% of the total pool. That doesn't seem gentle to me and I would feel horrible guilt for suggesting it to anyone.
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Well, that's kind of a silly thing to say, those trip reports obviously aren't representative of the totality of collective experience with 2C-I. People are going to be much more inclined to write a TR if they had a difficult or challenging trip than if it was relatively uneventful. Also, I think that writing TRs is something that less experienced trippers tend to do (I took some 2C-B last weekend. I didn't write a TR because I've done lots of 2C-B before, and so have lots of other people, and my experience frankly isn't all that interesting), and less experienced trippers are disproportionately likely to find themselves overwhelmed. Your numerical claim is also just dead wrong, there 436 reports on 2C-I in total, so even if your logic was valid, we'd be talking more like 1/8 people having a tough time, rather than 2/5. Still, in order to illustrate just why your reasoning is flawed: there are 436 reports, of which 152 are first times. Therefore, 1/3 of doses of 2C-I are taken by people who have never taken it before. See what I mean?
 
2cb is quite gentle, bit of a body load.
I didn't get any nausea though, but i never get nausea on anything really
 
Vader said:
See what I mean?
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Also Erowid does not by any means except all submitted reports. I would say low dose 4-HO-MET, quick and simple, especially at low doses. Oh and its super purdy. I would say mescaline but I find it can wack you on the head when it wants to show its bite though its pretty rare with doses under 400mgs. 4-HO-MET however, quick and to the point with high visual activity and fairly minimal mental change. Perfect for a first timer or someone who wants something more on the gentle side.
 
what does body load mean? I dont think i experienced anything negative at allon 2c-b just crazy tracers and visuals everything was swirling and shit
 
2cb isnt free of body load at all. Can produce tachycardia and shivers/tension/tremors
 
wtf it seemed to me you have more side effects and weird things going on with tylenol pm my head felt so clear on 2c-b that it seemed so gradually coming on i didnt even realize i was high on it until being in a brighter lit room not at the club because i popped molly 3 hours or so after eating it.
 
Chill out kid, you aren't always going to get your questions answered in an hour. "Body load" is a term given to all physical side-effects of psychedelics. For instance, mescaline gives me nausea, makes me tremble, gives me hot and cold flushes, and that would collectively be called the "body load". Generally it's perceived negatively, you don't want body load, but this is all subjective, what one person experiences as unpleasant body load, another person might find to be a pleasant bodily experience. It's not a hard and fast rule, but I'd call any gastrointestinal, cardiac, muscular or pulmonary discomfort "body load".
 
id recommend lower dose of mushrooms 2.5-3 grams, 2C-B, or 5-meo-mipt in a lower(ish) dose. also, even though it can be kinda "speedy" i think MDA is a really great euphoric psychedelic and VERY gentle in the mindfuck category. of course coming down can be rough, but can definitely produce a peaceful high in the right set/setting.

i would REALLY love to try mescaline, AMT, and some more 2C's though.

how would you guys rate mesc, AMT, and other 2C's in comparison with mushrooms, LSD, and 2C-B?


that being said the most peaceful ive felt on psychedelics, were from more intense LSD trips. LSD is more like a rollercoaster, it certainly intense and crazy at times, but also gives way to zen-like states of bliss IME. mushrooms time and time again, are the most "chill" thing to trip on for me. the mindfuck can be present at times, but its typically never around long enough for me to really get too lost, and once you get through that part of the headspace, its smooth sailing (or grooving!) from then on
 
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