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The Most Gentle Psychedelics Thread

thirty-three said:
i am definitely not asking for sources...
just said, pm's are welcome. it seems some of you mod's want to try and act like these things aren't discussed here privately for some reason...and you are editing out statements that do not go against the rules

No this stuff is not to be discussed in public thats all.
 
"Friendly" Psychedelic Drug

I'm looking for an psychedelic drug which gives you an inner set of peace, euphoria, something where u can relax without losing your mind. not too sedating and not too speedy. if possible not too heavy for the body...no heart racing or very high blood pressure, no feelings of anxiety or something like that. i know every trip is differtent and set and setting is important too, but i think there thinks that are just garbage..like lsa seeds in my opinion.

i only tried 3 psychedelics so far.

1x lsd - wasn't enough, very very mild psychedelic experience, no visuals, nearly nothing.

2x mushrooms - first time with friends in spring, everything was interesting and funny, the setting was perfect, everything was fine. the second time i took way to much, with the wrong person in the wrong setting...the trip was pretty heavy for me, but if i look back it was quite funny. just the beginning was a bit...hardcore!

1x lsa - no euphoria, almost depressed, vomiting....felt pretty clearheaded but i had some oev's

next thing i want to try is AMT at a dosage of 15-30mg.

are there any other substances that could be interesting for me?

i was thinking about 5-meo-MiPT and 2C-C or 2C-D.. would the fit in what i am looking for or does anybody else have an idea which could be interesting?
i am not looking for anything psychedelic to go clubbing more something like a therapeutic tool, which can me give more insights, etc etc etc

I'm sorry for my bad english....

Thank you :)
 
is this a what should i take thread? :) i always like to chalange moderators with this question :P

anyway back on topic.
lsd might be what you are looking for, i believe you only had a very very low dose if those are the only effects you got from it...
the mushrooms... well? what was wrong with those? you describe a good time on them and they are perfectly capable of givign you exactly what you are looking for....

but if you want to try some of the ones listed, 2c-c might be for you. it is quite forgiving and friendly. personally though, i dont find 2c-c or -d that "deep" but as you recognize yourself, set and setting is everything.

on a different note, what i really think you need is to get a bit more knowledge, read up a bit more and just get some experience with directing your trips... you are at the beginning of a wonderful path, but its not jsut the choice of substance... best of luck
 
4-HO-MET is also a friendly, empathic and very visual psychedelic. One of the best starters if you also want some depth in your trip.
 
like what the others said: 4-ho-met, 2c-c i would add amt aswell :) these 3 are maybe the most chill and "no chanse for bad trip" type of psychedelics for me
 
Stay away from 5-meo-MIPT, it gave me one hell of a mind fuck, and didn't seem to be to friendly in nature. At least in the second part of the trip.

@ilovecrystal 2c-c lasts much longer then two hours. More like four to six.
 
25i-NBOMe and 25c-NBOMe are some of the most user friendly psych's IMO. The come up is very MDMA-esque with an amazing body high and the trip is overall really clearheaded. The one person I know who decided to try 25i as their first psych LOVED it at a dosage of ~ 1mg buccally
 
do a higher dose of LSD. you didn't experience it properly or were sold bunk product.
 
this is kinda in "What should I take?" territory, but i suppose if we relegate the discussion as to what psychedelics people find subjectively friendly and/or are good therapeutic tools i suppose i can leave it open for a bit. But if conversation keeps on in the "What should i take?" direction i'll have to close it.

4-HO-MET is almost universally regarded as quite friendly, and i find it so myself. However i do feel it lacks some depth as a therapeutic tool. 4-AcO-DMT has been the most valuable therapeutic tool i've come across in some time. The combination of the two i've also found particularly useful.
 
You can use these threads to narrow down on certain properties of psychedelics:

Sounds like you want the second thread linked in the list here.


Since you are a greenlighter I give you some time to react to this, otherwise your post can be merged into the thread on 'the most gentle psychedelic', of course you are welcome to start participating in other such threads in parallel.
 
2c-c, 4-ho-met, 4aco/ho-mipt have all been quite nice and friendly, in that order, imho. 2c-b is quite lovely for me and most i know as well.

aMT alot of ppl seem to enjoy, but i know just as many who found it to be an unpleasant experience. same goes for 5meo-mipt- some love it, some hate it. milage seems to vary alot on these p2p. i find that to be the case w all the 5 methoxys tho. moxy is def the most friendly of them, to me.

its really hard to answer this question for you though bc everyone is diff. i have a friend who example, loves DOx's and DPT is his fav; but 2c-c makes him sick and really paranoid, even at low doses.

another friend of mine loves mushrooms but cant stand 4aco-dmt; he's frightened by it and the reaction it produces in him.he loves all the other 4subs tho..its bizzare. chemically, they are so similar its perplexing, but is a good example of how much YMMV..
 
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Well, personally, MDMA if it counts. Only because I have stayed completely away from psychedelics since I was a teen in the so called "grunge" era early 90's, & even then, I only ever had access to LSD & an abundant supply of naturally occurring cyans(we always called them blue ringers, but upon further research conducted by myself some 20 years later, I'm certain we were blessed with wavy caps). I don't know if it's a mid-life crisis of sorts, but here some two decades later, I'm finding myself experimenting with some of these new-millennium substances & plan on having that kind of year in 2012 where I open myself to a smorgasbord of irresponsible behavior, if only to loosen up a bit. To date, & only within the last two months, I've tried 4 FA, E1, B1, 2c i, & MXE Actually, I did toy with salvia a few times about two or three years ago & "robotripped" on robitussin back in 08, neither of which were particularly enjoyable in my mind-well, I guess at least the salvia invoked uncontrollable belly laughter a time or two. 2c i seemed pretty mild to me from a mental standpoint as far as profound thoughts, but I was into the visuals & other sensory effects, & it seemed to mild on my body after the fact(ie no headache or hangover). I'm not sure people that have done MDMA would call it psychedelic, because, at least to me, everything about the MDMA experience couldnt have felt more perfect as if thats the ideal state of being & perception for humans. It never felt like tripping or in any way unnatural like hallucinating or misinterpreting physical tactile input(dissociation), at least not the tabs I got that did happen to contain MDMA. Sadly, I'm rather sure that all the times I've bought "ecstasy", I've only gotten actual MDMA about 50% of the time. I've never intentionally done ketamine or 5 meo dipt or BZP, but would say with confidence I've ingested them at some point based on a couple of very different, distinguishable types of highs I've encountered with those cute, colorful pills. I should add that I didnt try ecstasy until after I was 32 & that coincided with the worldwide drought of quality E as a result of the seizure of that shitload of safrole oil in Cambodia a few years back. Most of the pills I've bought have been shitty, some even totally inactive. I suppose thats the risk you take buying unregulated drugs in a form other than their freebase or HCI versions. I have some 2c e & 25i nbome waiting for me to try, but I would definitely recommend 2c i for the friendliness you seek, it felt very non-threatening to me & very easy to be under the influence of around other people. Oh, I swallowed a gelcap with 15 mgs in it & that seemed to be a perfect amount for me.
 
2C-B is quite light and friendly at an appropriate dose. If you are looking for insights and a therapeutic tool I strongly recommend DMT in a nice, quiet setting. Give mushrooms a try in a nice setting where you feel safe, and do it alone, just you and yourself... If you know what I mean :)

EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget... MESCALINE!
 
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