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To dive in again, or not?

So, last night Muffin and I (along with two friends) took some 2C-D. (Around 30mg for them, 50mg for me. I was looking for something special.) It was greatly enjoyable, arguably a +++ experience, but at the same time I feel I came out of it empty-handed. It's the oddest discordance I have ever experienced. I always come out of a trip the next day a) having gained something (personal insight, a new look on life, appreciation for natural beauty, etc.), b) thinking "That was fun and relaxing, what a good night," or c) both. I'm left with none of that after last night. I remember very clearly enjoying it during the experience (which is why I'd still qualify it as a +++), as I'd never really ventured that deep into psychedelics for fear of leaving Muffin behind--she refuses to go beyond low recreational doses because of her anxiety/past--but today I regard it no different than if I had gotten stumblingly drunk and managed to enjoy the evening without throwing up before going to bed. I feel almost as though I've been seeking something lately, something I usually get from psychedelics--though what that "something" is I can't be certain--but have not found recently, even the first time we tripped again in ~7 months a few weeks ago.

I don't know if it's the substance(s), or the people involved, or what. Neither makes much sense to me as I never trip with people I don't like and can pretty easily ignore someone that is annoying me and occupy myself with something else (although last night one friend was a bit of a downer because she did not interact with us at all). I've done 2C-D plenty of times before and always came out of it happy that I did it, and at that time. And knowing myself, I'm shocked that I'm not happier/more fascinated by how deep I went last night. Perhaps it's because I wasn't as clear-headed as I am most of the time, though 2C-D has always been head-heavier for me than 2C-C, LSD, or mushrooms, and at this point I'm just vainly musing. Everybody says set and setting are the most important factors that influence a trip, but if the trip was good can they have an influence on the post-trip integration?? Yesterday I was almost certain I did not want to do 2C-D, but by the time we actually dropped I [thought I'd] convinced myself it would be enjoyable and even managed to get a little excited about it. (I don't feel depressed or anything by the way, just a little tired from only about 6.5 hours of sleep before work, but even that isn't too unusual. I always recover well from drugs, thankfully. *knock wood*)

What are the group's opinions? Could my anticipation from yesterday have carried over and turned into disappointment today, even though the trip itself didn't feel disappointing? Should I submit to my craving and take the 25C-NBOMe I wanted so badly to try yesterday? Or do you think I may be looking for a more specific substance, like LSD, mushrooms, or 2C-E (which is at the top of my list of psychedelics to try, but have yet to locate)? I kinda feel like I'm seeking an LSD-like experience, but damn if Lucy isn't mysteriously scarce in my area.

O-pin-ions? Also, only tangentially related but I watched this twice back-to-back last night for many lulz. Why does he seran wrap his remote??

So cheap!
 
if we're reccomending substances, 2CT2 i really liked.
i came real close to trying T7 but the ambien walrus fucked up my dose i had :(
 
Oh man. I finally watched DMT: The Spirit Molecule last night. Too bad I already had come down all the way from my [amazing] 4-aco-dmt trip, because the documentary seemed made to be watched while tripping. It also made me want to do DMT-- or rather, finally have a breakthrough experience with it.
 
@Axed: You know as much as I claim DMT to be my "favorite," I still haven't watched that movie. Wonder if it's on Netflix...? Probably not. Lol.

I really look forward to trying 2C-E some time, either by myself or with my close friend who also enjoys the mental, inward part of trips, but I'm actually not sure that's quite what I'm looking for at this point in time, or at least not what I was shooting for yesterday. Who knows, maybe 2C-E would help me discover what it is I was seeking and then I could go from there :p. If only I knew where to find it...
 
Ambien walrus??

dude used to fuck with me all the time

mainly he always would steal the rest of my ambien while i was blacked out.

once he fed me a dose of DOC that was measured out with a tablespoon. boy was that an interesting day once the ambien wore off.

i don't let the dude come around anymore.
 
Speaking of delirium, Day 3 of no sleep, lots of random little deliriant visual distortions and hallucinations. What's weird though is the whole day I was struggling to stay awake because I needed to - but now I don't need to be up and I have tons of energy and no desire to sleep. No drugs consumed either.
 
^ LOL, that's *exactly* how it works for me. The only time I'm really exhausted is when I'm forced to be awake at school or work. As soon as I come home, the gears start spinning.

once he fed me a dose of DOC that was measured out with a tablespoon. boy was that an interesting day once the ambien wore off.

i don't let the dude come around anymore.

Holy hell! 8o That could get dangerous! Thanks for reminding me not to fuck with zolpidem!
 
woke up tripping balls with an english:metric conversion page up on my computer, my DOC bottle next to a spoon on my counter, and my oral syringe nowhere in site.
 
Yeah I think people should be warned that the doors of perception should not be blown off the hinges otherwise you might have a lot of cleaning up to do or learn to live with semi-permanent states of being open, which sounds better than it may actually be in daily life. )


reminds me of the grim meat hook realities quote from fear and loathing (probably one of the most important sayings I'd give regarding my opinion of psychs, though I've going more in the other direction lately with all my New Testament reading, tryin' to read the whole thing):

Hunter S Thompson said:
We're all wired into a survival trip now... no more of the speed that fueled the 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling conciousness expansion, without ever giving a thought to the grim meathook realities that were lying in wait for all those peoples who took him seriously. All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy peace and understanding for three bucks a hit. but their loss, and failure, is ours too. What Leary took down with him was that the central illusion of a whole lifestyle that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old mystic fallacy of the acid culture. The desperate assumption that somebody, or at least some force, is tending the light at the end of the tunnel.


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NKB, I challenge you to drop your manipulative ways and be an honourable person.

Thank you for that, really. I've been considering the same thing. I'm still not set on it, but I've been seriously thinking, anyway, the rest of my money is going to go to going to get a five guys burger, visiting my sister in SD, and only then if I have anything left drugs. I feel like it's a good thing.

And now if I may be negative, I want to let you in on some inner monologue I was having earlier. The setup is ate some white grapefruit earlier, so I figured, hey, let's drink what's left of my dxm. On my walk to by some beer for the evening I only noticed some time dilation (really small amount of drug, but I htought the fruit might make me feel it), and after drinking some I got to thinking. I woke up rather melancholic today, why? Dissociative expereince the other day, I can tell through the extremely mild dose I had today. I am not disconnected from the world by it, but connected to the world of dissociation. The small amount I had left a connection like a single thread, but still it was pulling me towards some point beyond the horizon that I cannot see. I know where it goes, Paradise, Home, Misery. The best solution is to steadfastly avoid that damn class of drugs even more, as I have been doing, but still, I want to go back to that world.... I know where it goes, Paradise, Home, Misery. The best solution is to steadfastly avoid that damn class of drugs even more, as I have been doing, but still, I want to go back to that world....

Edit: dammit, I see dissociatives continue to make me talk like a crazy person. The emotional fulfillment and optimistic not-quite existences they let me see are pretty darn tempting though.
 
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3rd time tripping on whatever it is i have... I played kirby on my wii on the come up and after the peak, its the old school one too. there's also some stuff about aliens and I remember drinking last night, I'll have to get back to you guys on this one....
 
i dont really buy RCs but i just had a question and didnt feel it was worthy of a thread

im not looking for vendors but

how safe is it to order 4-aco-dmt offline? like is the substance specifically controlled in the US?, i know the place i would buy it would ship it to the US but it also clearly states that just cuz they'll ship something to a certain country doesnt make it legal in said country. if yall dont mind id appreciate any helpful feedback

thanks yall

PS: ive had psilocybe tampanensis shipped to me from amsterdam and i know those arent legal here but they made it through soo im just wondering if yall have had experiences with 4 aco dmt or could provide some insight

but i was nervous as shit the whole time until they arrived thats for sure
 
Ohhh fuck ;)

Hadn't done mushies in over 12 years, they were the lil guys, 1.4G...


I'll tell you what, I've kicked my ass and fried very hard in my life times, and this was splendid beautiful perfection...
<3


My friend said his creativity was dead, and why, and so I made him hold a pen with me and write something, he drew, an arc <3 and the words "linear calculus", and so now two nights later I'm cracking it at calculus and the worlds political history...


lol
Yes!!!
 
Didn't buy any booze, entering period of voluntary sobriety. I'm feeling weird so I just popped a couple of kava kava pills and brewed some passionflower, daga, hop, linden flower, chamomille, catnip, spearmint, lemony herbs tea. The first week of sobriety can be really damn annoying, then only intermittently after that.
 
Sending you good vibes nkb, sobriety certainly has its advantages and opportunities too :)

This is awesome sound to slowly get the day going.
 
Good luck never. A period of sobriety is always good. I've been sober for a few days (ok, I think i drank on saturday) because of my damn sinus infection that I now have antibiotics for. I'm gonna be sober at least until the end of the antibiotics to avoid any bad interactions. Reading books and exercising are good ways of getting your mind off of the soberness of sobriety.
 
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