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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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Your description of how MXE is affecting you reminds me of when I was sort of early or halfway into my long and deep addiction to Ketamine. Which eventually ended in me being schizophrenic.

I am no longer schizo and haven't been for a couple years now. But I suggest you stop using MXE right about... now.

Some people cannot handle dissociatives if they are nieve and believe every coincidence turns into synchronicity and eventually paranoia. You said you are just "finding out" about the New World Order and MK Ultra. I'm just saying it's a slippery psychological slope that I've already been down and it took some serious changes in the way I look at the world and drastically cutting back drugs for quite a while to fight my way back from the depths of paranoid schizo-affective disorder caused by Ketamine.

I don't think MXE has nearly the schizo potential that Ketamine addiction does, but from what you are describing, it sounds like it does for you.

Take care.
 
I certainly was beginning to develop schizo behavior when using mxe heavily... however I've been on break about 2 monthsand had no lasting effects carry into life not underthe influence lol... so that's good anyway... ymmv
 
eye_wide_open: Your subconscious mind absorbs an astonishing magnitude of information throughout your everyday and night existence, and your normal awareness is only privvy to a very small percentage of this. That is why these types of drugs do the things they do; if we already were in full awareness of our entire spectrum of consciousness, then psychedelic drugs would be pointless. The MXE is not helping you "prophesize" cultural information. It is opening your awareness to your subconscious which has stored buzzwords such as MK-ULTRA.

Don't obsess about things like "new world order" conspiracies, and it's associated buzzwords, and soundbites and all the stories involved. It is a treacherous slope to be going down, it can really drive you insane. The reason for that is because of the sheer volume of gross misinformation (and disinformation) flying around on the internet amongst groups of people who get so sucked in to the negativity of it all they can't see the true nature of reality.

There is nothing inherently conspiratorial about a 'new world order', it is simply a globalist vision of humanity that a great swath of the political landscape believes in. Once you start obsessing about MK-ULTRA, HAARP, and deep underground bases, you are well on the way to a self-inflicted misery of depressed indulgence. Yes, these government creations exist (or have existed), but not on the kind of deep conspiratorial level you are talking about, and it does nothing but cause more problems and paranoia between groups of people when you involve yourself too heavily in them. Give it recognition for the bare facts, but don't get sucked in because it can really screw you up. Live your life as a free being.

The reason I'm speaking up about this, is that I can't stand rampant fear-mongering. And that is what I see in your posts, as it pertains to the whole "the government is going to form an NWO and slaughter 80% of it's population". You need to do a whole lot more research on these things before you let your MXE influenced mind join dots that shouldn't be joined and jump to grand conclusions like these.

I wouldn't get too heavily involved in all that quantum mechanical stuff either. It has certain scientific applications that extend in to everyday areans such as computer technology etc., but when you start believing in the universe just being made up of entirely discreet particles, and that your mind creates all existence, you are really losing yourself down a deluded rabbit-hole. I think much of the new-age religious media has a lot to answer for here.

Remember the power of psychedelic and dissociatives to also allow you profound indulgence in the ego, as well as liberation from it, depending on how you exercise the power of your mind. Exercise some clear-headedness and rational thought, in order to seperate the delusional fluff from reality. If you don't give yourself enough break between experiences, you will inevitably develop some delusions like the ones you have already stated.
 
right. im (one of) the first idiots to find the near-leathal dose. following my mini detox. i did something STUPID which i know better.

i carried on tacking my usual dose by accident + a bit more

i was bored and freactious. went to bed. had 100mgs which was more then enough. decided to hole with music and early night (6pm) so upped with an extra 150mgs, (totall 250mgs insufated in 1hr)

i holed.

i woke up

i couldnt sleep. i (for the first time ever i dont know why. eye balled a dose and used my stash (without my old tollerace

estimated an extra 400mgs in one go insuffated.

next thing i know im in a&e with 280 over something heart pressure and bpm crazy. apparently i had shouted i needed a ambulance due to intensce chest pain (ive had this as a period coming out of a hole for a few seconds but not like this, not that i remember it)

i then apparently when the paramedics came, forgoten i had asked for them. ecg was alover the place and against my now (stpid) will. was taken to a&e.

i required no treatment. and within a couple of hours i was concious enough to discharge myself and give the bed to someone who needed it more then me. i was very lucky

i have felt rised coninuous blood pressure with regular use in the past

so. (i am vertually indestructable as my friends have pointed out in the past).

400mgs = true physical near death dont do it

(you know when you take a drug over dose AND THE NURSING STAFF ARE ***NICE TO YOU**** its serious.
 
^ Excellent post

im surprised i haven't become deluded or paranoid or something yet, considering how twisted it gets. all its done for me is made me quite manicly motivated and optimistic afterwards. or depressed, like from a come down. the depression stopped when i stopped mixing it with things. think the only drug to have made me full blown delusional, paranoid, anxious, depressed etc was Mephedrone come downs.. they right fucked with my head
 
we know from history - especially heroin addicts. danger and death comes from when you have had a break and your tollerance goes down. or you have had a bad batch and a pure one comes along, you take your "usual" which by now is way more then you need. and die.

so DONT DO IT> dont do what i did. and dont for gods sake let what happend to that poor swedish girl happen to you. spoil it you you and everyone else. only you wont be effected by the ban. because you will be dead.
 
oh and someone said "there are a lot of deluded people here" yes. and no. this drug has made me more insightful. i know this. its made me think about my life. and i know its not just delusional because i double check myself against other people, and people around me say ive turned my life around, i give them advise and ive been told over and over "your very insightful." i wont get arrogant. i wont pretend im not a bit nutty, i am and always have been. just remember:

"balance"

drugs can do good and bad. some people here are talking complete shit, some are talking sense. drugs can do you A LOT OF HARM. they can also do a lot of good. dont abuse them.
 
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next thing i know im in a&e with 280 over something heart pressure and bpm crazy. apparently i had shouted i needed a ambulance due to intensce chest pain (ive had this as a period coming out of a hole for a few seconds but not like this, not that i remember it)

i then apparently when the paramedics came, forgoten i had asked for them. ecg was alover the place and against my now (stpid) will. was taken to a&e.

i required no treatment. and within a couple of hours i was concious enough to discharge myself and give the bed to someone who needed it more then me. i was very lucky
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How do you know it was near-leathal? Did the doctors comment on it?

I don't see how you could have done 500mg of it and in a few hours be 'concious enough' to discharge yourself. Surely the doctors would be a bit concerned?
 
Very. they were.

i went "against medical advise" now maybe 6hrs after dose.

i am a trained nurse myself and i also have a degree in psychology and have worked both in medicine and psychiatry. i know when someone is in trouble. and i was. although i was in no fit state to discharge myself. i was still fucked. but i was able to get the words out and stagger (with help) into a taxi with my partner who is also a nurse.

the nurse to let me discharge myself said it was SERIOUSLY against their advice. im very headstrong

my use has been up to a gram a day staggered from about 9months. in the last 3-4 i have got my use down. im not delusional anymore. i know this is crazy.

tollerance. is what made me able to do it.

i was unaware and had no memory of asking for 999 to be called or the chest pain, but i have had this before on high doses. i remeber very little. i would never have discharged myself if i was thinking straight. and they shouldnt have let me, but i am known for doing stupid things and turning up in a&e and discharging myself in my past. (i used to be COMPLETLY out of control) poor a&e deal with fucktards who do stupid things all the time, they are desensitised to it.

when the paramedics came, they looked mxe up on the national poisons index and admitted me with crazy high blood pressure and were insghtfull enough to know i was just in a massive M/K hole, but somehow (i dont know how) i was able to communicate..i usually loose the power of speech to my frustration. my brain will be racing with thoughts and fully compos mentis (delusionaly) but unable to form words..i talk like special needs "mmm mweeeh mmemeee memeee " i hate to use the word "mong" but that would be accurate.

the doctors were very concerned and it was against their advice but i realised i was over the worst of it and on a come down.

the mix of high blood pressure, led to a panic attack which escaleted the spin out and the blood pressure even higher. it was a loop. my ecg and pressure was well in the danger zone but not enough. someone next to me had 232/90 blood pressure and was admitted with whatever she had, she was in danger of having a stroke.

the doctors were concerned. but they are busy people. and its your right to discharge yourself. i tried to not let the paramedics take me to hospital but i was so out of it they did. this has happend before. the come up and the come down is quite fast. in an hour you can go from sober to hole. and in 2 hours back again. maybe the more used you are to it the quicker the up and down.

i am not boasting this dose. i am deeply ashamed. its stupidity.my Bpm btw was 185/115 - ON THE COME DOWN so i'm told by someone who wrote it down. maybe not deadly if you are healthy, but potentially deadly if you are in bad shape. either way. its NOT GOOD god knows what it was at the time. it must be some suvival instinct that made me able to communicate in this state.

*also note i have this bizare ability even on LSD ...LSD back in the day when it was realy STRONG to still be cohereant. when my friends would be dribbling wrecks on the floor people would be tripping with me and amazed i can still talk and function fucked. its one of my quirks.

* also its possible to be lying on a bed in A&e for hours before you see a dr. in which time you come down. and start to recover

*dont mistake my bad spelling and grammar for stupidity I'm dyslexic.
 
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I'M NOT BOASTING I AM DEEPLY ASHAMED FOR MY STUIPIDITY AND RECKLESS USE. take note. i have been stupid please dont follow me. and please dont "go one better"

and i have no explanation as to why with this level of abuse i am some how both sane and alive. to be discussed. and i dont plan on pushing my luck. i will try to learn my lesson

I dont want to be the "Leah Betts" of Methoextamine. do you? get wise.
 
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^Fascinating story. I'm glad you made it out and you're here with us (hopefully without mentioning methoxetamine).

Has anyone else experienced an odd "taste" in their mouth in the day following use? The taste is sort of metallic, like a penny, which is to say like a mild electric current is running through the tongue and teeth (the zinc and nickel in a penny create a mild charge, which gives pennies their battery like taste [if you've never licked the contacts of a 9V battery, drop everything and go do it!])? Anyways, I've researched the neurobiology of the perception of electric taste (because the sensation strikes me as synaesthetic in a revealing way [taste crossed with somatosensation]), and I'm slightly concerned there is efferent nerve feedback to the nerves in my tongue from spontaneous activity in the brain where the afferent nerve of the tongue terminates (or simply minor seizure-like activity in that portion of the brain that is creating the perception of metallic taste/electrical sensation on the tongue). What I'm concerned about is excitotoxicity.

I recently used MXE in combination with DXM/ondansetron/buprenorphine (no opiate tolerance) then used MXE again the day after. The combo was just about the best high ever, but that's sort of why I'm suspicious of it... too good.
 
missimoo said:
I'M NOT BOASTING I AM DEEPLY ASHAMED FOR MY STUIPIDITY AND RECKLESS USE. take note. i have been stupid please dont follow me. and please dont "go one better"

and i have no explanation as to why with this level of abuse i am some how both sane and alive. to be discussed. and i dont plan on pushing my luck. i will try to learn my lesson

I dont want to be the "Leah Betts" of Methoextamine. do you? get wise.
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Do you aim to quit? Do you think you need to quit, or at least cut down?
 
I found some mxe from my very first order last night, must've been no more then 20-25mg. I was already on o-dt, and the combo has been pleasant for me before. Due to my tolerance (I use it quite regularly, though in smaller dosages) I was not expecting that much of a headspace. However, I got my mind blown. Took 20 minutes to write a bullshit story about my visit to the dentist that day, travelling from letter to letter on my keyboard and such. Always bought from the same supplier, it's a shame current batches aren't like that anymore.
 
A few weeks ago I pushed the limit of my MXE use, I had been taking anywhere from 60-80mg as my regular dose for quite some time now. The night before the story I'm about to tell I took a 100mg dose and was able to put myself into a trance. This was done by sitting on my roof near the heater that put off a lot of ambient/white noise. I would sit, fold my arms & stick my legs out and just stare blankly in front of me just taking in all of my environment. I would just relax my eyes (open) and the trance would then begin. My whole world would become a roller coaster ride. I could literally feel myself being pulled along this ride as my world in front of me would go with it. I would see my world (roof) slide from one side of my vision to the other. Sometimes falling sometimes rising. It's hard to describe but I think fellow hardcore K and MXE users might know what I'm talking about. I honestly felt like (and I get this a lot of times in K holes) that I was about to figure sometime out. Or that something was about to be revealed to me that isn't supposed to be. I was snapped out of this trance by an outside sound and I never quite got there nor figured out what was about to have been revealed to me. I remember looking down at my shirt and it was wet, my eyes were watering like crazy as I hadn't closed them in probably ten min. I went inside and tore off my shirt and was very upset that I had been snapped out of something so cosmic without getting the answers I was looking for. So the next day I was out for this answer to the unknown question. I took 120mg on a empty stomach and was ready for another trance session. Everything was going fine and I was getting ready to head outside to sit on my spot. When the minx came on strong, way to strong. I was trying to get a hold of things but I was on some wild ride I knew I couldn't get off, so of course I just went with the flow. I decided to just lay down until the peak was over then I'd try and trance out. As I sit on my couch I put on the Cannibal Holocaust soundtrack. As I listen to the music. I get this sense of doom and uncomfortable feelings. Thoughts race through my head like a freight train. I've had crazy acid/shroom thought loops before tons of times but nothing like this. I had gone bat-shit crazy. This is where things get a bit hazy but I remember trying to call a fellow employee to try and tell him that I think he is a great person, and that he and I have a special bond beyond brothers, friends etc. (I had saved his life during an accident at work earlier in the year) At some point the Cannibal Holocaust soundtrack had ended so I put on the Susperia soundtrack. (I love italian horror movies) I really think that the music had something to do with the overall feel of the experience. This is no means happy music, it has a very odd, doom like feel to it. I tried to get motivated as I still wanted to trance out. I get up and my whole apartment is spinning. I'm not talking about a drunk & stoned spinning. I mean I would be facing forward the whole time and I could see what was directly behind me as if I was spinning around in circles. I thought to myself this is what PCP psychosis must be like. So as my world is spinning out of control, I hear in my head what sounds like 2X4s being smacked together. The loud slapping sound echoes in my head and just takes over everything even the music. Now I'm starting to get a bit spooked. I sit back down and the room is still spinning and seemed to be picking up speed, and say to myself this is it, I've done MXE so many times and now I've pushed it to far. Welcome to what PCP psychosis is. I lied on my couch with my eyes closed getting the most disturbing CEV i've had on MXE to date and of course terrible thought loops. (Anyone else ever notice how negative the MXE visuals are) I was seeing gears in a machine but the gears were made of human parts and flesh. I don't remember how long I sat there, but I eventually found my phone again and made a few texts to my friend who has done his fair share of experiments with me. After talking to him for a while I stared to feel much better, and I very much learned my lesion with MXE. Now the few times i've taken it since I just go fucking crazy. My thoughts and actions are so out of my character it scares me. MXE has shown me so many great times but now it seemed like it's turned it's back on me. I will only be using it just a few more times, till I call it quits on the MXE. I like K so much better. M holes suck!
 
Transform said:
Do you aim to quit? Do you think you need to quit, or at least cut down?
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"balance" first if you cant once you have problem bring it under control, then abstinance is the next step. my vice was cocaine. i know that i can never take it again because as soon as i even see someone wipe there nose coming out of a toilet cubical i suddenly find myself 3 weeks down the line thousands of pounds up my nose. i have no control. i cant ever go back. i know someone who has had an addiction, who has managed to "reign it in" and in absolute credit to them, can actually manage to drink sensibly although they have to always be extra careful they dont slip. so there are two paths 1) develop controlled use with insight..if that fails 2)complete abstinence. which i dont want. because im having too much fun.

first step is controlled use. if i cant mange that. i will have to cut it out completely. i have been cutting down. i have been much more sensible the excess use i was doing, i have reigned in, and that story was one slip up. cutting down, because this stuff is lovely, and it does do good things, its better then getting pissed or doing coke, for me its MXE is the new MDMA for grown ups and thinkers. use moderatly. use it to be social, play games, (LOVE skyrim and COD on it, anyone playing black ops or modern warfare 3 pm me and add because i have not played with people online yet at would love to network..same for HALO) ..this is a drug with a lot of positives ..it does get you doing good things. as well as its dangers. its an amazing thing really. we are all very lucky to have come across it and have this online community to look out for each other. anyway ONE LOVE> im going to bed. maybe play Halo for a bit after a bump of MINX
 
I'm going to do an actual experiment (sorry for being a posting-whore)

You know those "learn a language in your sleep" cds...that in theory, you listen to a cd of say, french in your sleep. and you absorb it. Im gonna try that on MXE see if it works +1 i have a suspicion that using a dissociative to learn a language that way will work

im going to learn french via the MXE (MINX) technique of sending it straight into the brain. Anyone else wanna play this experiment and do some real "research" with this "chemical" and make use of it in a good way? Anyone up for it? I challenge everyone to actually stop whittering on about "this is mind expanding shit bollocks" and actually try and put it to a test. Try a task. .If you REALY think this is mind expanding stuff. ...Which I do...lets actually play scientist and try it. Follow this thread.
 
^that sounds like an absolutely absurd, manically inspired, reason to continue abusing methoxetamine. "I might learn French!" Seriously ridiculous... which I suppose is justification enough in your mind state, right?
 
Very dissapointed on my first go with Mxe... please let me know what you guys think.

20mg insluflated:
20mg more at one hour
10mg more at hour.5
50mg approx total

+00:20 definite discconect from mind/body, starting to feel kinda spacy and dizzy

+01:00 more pronounced disconnect, tried to listen to music, seems distracting in a way, not enjoyable.
snorted 20mg more, the disconnect is becoming intense and i dont really know what to do with myself.

+02:00 i have a strange "cross eyed" vision, very dizzy and spacy, cant focus. slight nausa. do 10m more mg to see if i will break through, just makes me more cross eyed.. at some point i lay down in bed and try to grove to shpongle. at one point i feel like im spinning/falling with eyes closed.

+03:00 getting sleepy and decide to try to sleep, even though i can never sleep on ANY sort of drug. but sleep comes easy and is restfull for maybe 5 hours.

what am i missing??
ZERO introspective thoughts/perception shifts
ZERO visuals of any sort..
:( was rly looking forward to this stuff...
 
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