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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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Okay, one thing fellow dopeheads....the first two days of Suboxone use are GOING TO SUCK!!! I'm on day 3 and I'm at only 2mg for today and I don't even feel that bad!! The first two days really kinda sucked (second day was the worst) I did 5mg day 1 and about 3.5mg day two and today I did 2mg.

Guys.....once I taper down to .5mg a day and jump off in two or three weeks, how is my W/D going to be? I'm really concerned/nervous about this....
Personally this is different for everyone, I would do a shorter taper, like go from 2 to 1, then 1 to 0.5, then take that for one more day and jump off. Only telling you this from personal experience I think the longer the tapers with a long half life drug like bupe, the worse the eventual w/d symptoms are. Good luck :)
 
I shot subutex several times last week. And let me just tell you the high kinda sucked, and not only that but it fucking scared my veins, they don't pop out half as well as they used to... Also there is literature hear on bluelight and all over the internet about gangrene and amputations.

So i plead with you, don't shoot your tex, or your suboxone, unless you have a micron filter and are experienced at filtering out 100% of the binders and or "cut." Also I have a question

I have no bruises or anything from shooting the tex and I didn't miss at all (luckily) but I just wanted to make sure there is no chance that their could be someting going wrong on the inside of my veins that I can't see or feel. I have been taking baby aspirin to help with another health issue, but any reassurance or comments would help me not worry so much about this. But either way whether anything bad happens or not, I AM NEVER SHOOTING PILLS WITHOUT A MICRON FILTER EVER AGAIN.

That's not just some Junkie Promise either, that's a Junkie "blood runs deep at the bottom of the barrel" Pinkie Swear Truth Pact so may god strike down my balls if I break that one. Hope everyone out there is doing well and have a wonderful Bluelight day ;)
 
Does bupe constrict pupils, and would it put me to sleep after stimulant usage (6-APB to be certain)? Or maybe, 'allow' me to sleep.
 
Does bupe constrict pupils, and would it put me to sleep after stimulant usage (6-APB to be certain)? Or maybe, 'allow' me to sleep.
Yes bupe does constrict pupils. It is possible that it would help you to sleep after a recreational chemistry adventure, I would think that it would at least make you more relaxed. And as Znegative said, if you don't have much of a tolerance to opiods (like if you would catch a nice buzz off of 1 or 2 percocet, then .5 mg (either a 1/4 of a 2mg pill or a 1/16 of a 8mg pill) should put your dick in the dirt. You can always take more but I would say give it an hour at least to kick in. Let it dissolve under your tongue and hold the saliva under your tongue for 3 - 5 minutes and you are golden.

Sounds like fun, if I was opiate naiive I might give this a try, but I would use MDA or MDMA, not this weird analogue you mentioned, I wikipediaed it and it seems to have similair properties but I have never done it nor met anybody who has. Please let us know how your adventure turns out. And remember, you can always take more ^ - You can never take less V. Be safe - ;)
 
I should have never told my junkie friends that I plug Suboxone, now some of them think I like it up the ass. Oh well, I still plug Suboxone and in my opinion I still get the strongest effect from it aside from IVing which I haven't done in over a year and never plan on doing again. :o

I don't understand the logic of people who think that putting a drug up your ass makes you gay, hasn't anyone taken suppositories before? 8(

Does anyone else on here plug Bupe and find it to be much stronger than taking it sublingually?
 
I am trying to get off dope. When I try and take my suboxone films I gag and throw up more. I have shot like a quarter to a half of a strip before and it relieved withdrawals but now it doesn't seem to work as well. I also found out the dope I get has cocaine in it. I know cocaine isn't really physically addicting but could be that be the reason why they suboxone doesn't work fully? Also, I have a friend who plugs his and he says its good, if the IV doesn't work I might do that.
 
oh and in response to holding the suboxone in longer sublingually. Yeah I think it's pretty much a crock of shit. I held it under my tongue for twenty minutes yesterday and i felt it more this morning when I held it for five so who knows whats up with that site. I mean it's pretty obvious that holding it for longer is probably absorbing a bit more, but only up to a certain point.

If you're tapering on bupe, it's probably because your tolerance is dropping.

But yeah, it will only increase BA to a certain point as you said.

I am trying to get off dope. When I try and take my suboxone films I gag and throw up more. I have shot like a quarter to a half of a strip before and it relieved withdrawals but now it doesn't seem to work as well. I also found out the dope I get has cocaine in it. I know cocaine isn't really physically addicting but could be that be the reason why they suboxone doesn't work fully? Also, I have a friend who plugs his and he says its good, if the IV doesn't work I might do that.

Yeah, buprenorphine isn't designed to alleviate cocaine cravings. However, people can say its cut with something but unless you tested positive for coke and were shocked when you found out, I wouldn't believe it personally.

Even when I first got on buprenorphine... I still had acute WD symptoms and while the intensity was lower it wasn't 90% better, probably just 50 to 80 % better.

I would say, try plugging. It should last longer than IV but definitely kick in quicker, and you shouldn't vomit either. :) I used to vomit from taking 2mg Suboxone tab sublingually, and it wasn't from intensity of acute effects whatsoever.
 
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the cocaine might be the reason suboxone isn't making you feel completely normal. Prolongued cocaine abuse IMO does have a very real withdrawal of its own. Last year I got really strung out on heroin and cocaine. I couldn't hardly enjoy the dope if I didn't have any coke to put in it. And when I went into detox and got back on suboxone, I still felt NOT NORMAL at all. In fact the only times I could feel good were when I was able to score some cocaine or some other kind of stimulant.
 
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Sounds like fun, if I was opiate naiive I might give this a try, but I would use MDA or MDMA, not this weird analogue you mentioned, I wikipediaed it and it seems to have similair properties but I have never done it nor met anybody who has. Please let us know how your adventure turns out. And remember, you can always take more ^ - You can never take less V. Be safe - ;)
I don't know what's the buzz like from any other opioids than codeine, so I can't really say.

Thanks, and, by the way - you don't know what you're missing :)

I'll be having bupe a bit later than I expected, but so will be 'stimulant parties'.
 
Excellent! When was this? If you care to give us a more detailed day-by-day account of what happened, this could possibly be used as a guideline for future addicts who wish to go cold turkey.
 
wow, you are fortunate! some of us, including myself, endured weeks of withdrawal symptoms that almost seemed never ending. anti-diarrhea medicine was the best for the whole body aches and "heavyness". i actually used quite a bit of adderall, too. it was unpleasant being up for 3-4 days straight (adderall or not, would have happened either way) but i felt much better every time i took a couple adderall (combats anxiety and pain for me). i actually had some energy and was talking to people. i did take quite a bit of adderall though. otherwise i would have had to call in sick, possibly lose a job, and completely bomb the finals in school. yeah it was shitty going through that during finals but that's when the time came, usually that's how it happens for me, almost random.
 
- ROXIanne! - I drink about 90 - 120 ounces of water (3/4 - 1 gallon) daily and I am on 16 mg subutex daily and I pee just fine. First off, drink more water, 90 percent of people are chronically dehydrated and just think it's normal because they have lived with the symptoms for soooo long. Same thing with eating the average unhealthy sickeningly bad for you American Diet. It's horribly wrong it just feels normal because so many people have settled for horribly wrong as their "normal." I drink plenty of water, eat a paleolithic / primal diet - http://www.marksdailyapple.com/ - and also I drink a lot of water and my pee runneth freely. I also think of olive oil being expeller pressed when I need to pee but can't. I promise if you drink 1 oz of water daily for every kilogram (2.2 lbs) of body weight and this is still giving you a problem then you need to go see a doctor because you probably have some other health issue causing the urinary retention. Follow my advice about just the water and see what happens, I dare you. People are very quick to write off good healthful eating / drinking advice because McDonald's is soooo fuckin good and bc the think they already have their diet / water consumption under good control but I urge you to look very deeply at these questions before pointing your finger at the sky or in the toilet at your inability to pee. Hope you have a great day and good luck peeing.<3

While I appreciate the advice dehydration and diet are the very least of my worries. I have to stay in shape for my work so I go through a 24 pack of bottled water every 3 days and my diet consists of nothing but fruit and lean protein (chicken breast/fish). My problem was that my dose was too high, I was using 16 to 20mg a day intranasally on top of smoking headies all day. Apparently I would sit down to pee and pass out for 20 minutes and not realize it. Since I wrote that post Ive actually gone off subs, relapsed, and got back on and this time Im on 6 to 8mgs a day and I dont even have to sit down to pee. I do however still have some minor constipation but Ive found that 1 or 2 cups of this stuff called Laxatea made by Celestial Seasonings before bed and Im good to go the next morning. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone on BMT/MMt looking for a gentle yet effective relief.
 
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I did it! It's been 1 year off the subs, no drugs and no desire to go back to that lifestyle! I feel GREAT! Everyday is productive !
My only regret is that I didn't try to get off the subs sooner!
YOU can do it!

No offense at all, but while this does apply to many people here, I don't think it could possibly apply to me. I bolded this phrase, where it refers to getting off all drugs, and having a productive life on a daily basis.

I never had a productive life on a daily basis before drugs. I'm not saying I'd have to keep using a bunch of drugs to stay productive either, marijuana and bupe is all I use daily (occasional benzo 1x month, etc - once in a blue moon psycedelic :D) anyways .... I'm sure if I came on buprenorphine, I could either choose to go back on it to remain productive or I could choose to stay off it, but I'd likely not have a productive life most of the time (I wasn't productive every day before I started using).

If I could do it, I know the best way to do this is slowly and carefully though. I am making some progress. :)
 
This probably has been mentioned but I thought I'd chime in- Exercise potentiates bupe like a mo-fo. I take 4mg in the morning, go do intense yoga for an hour, skate for another hour, come home and nod out hard. It basically makes 4mg feel like 8mg. I'm also vegan, which my sub docs tell me is also helpful. When I was inducted it only took 15 min for me to feel it strongly. And now it hits in about 20, full effects in an hour. Nowadays if I feel it waining in the late afternoon, I go break a sweat and bam, the bupe comes back. I've learned to love the clean, focused, slightly stimulating, productive bupe high. It's an interesting high...if I'm moving around I'll feel the afformentioned effects, yet if I veg out, it feel more of the comfy/noddy feelings. I've been on 8mg for three months- question to experienced users- will these positive effects remain consistent over time or will they diminish?
 
Experience BUPE users, have you experienced a very unconfortable feeling when you approach or reach 1mg per day (.5mg twice a day). I'm starting to feel really bad right now :(.
 
Experience BUPE users, have you experienced a very unconfortable feeling when you approach or reach 1mg per day (.5mg twice a day). I'm starting to feel really bad right now :(.

It depends on what you tapered from... a slow taper .5mg at a time shouldn't bother you much when you get to 1mg. I tapered from 16mg to .5mg with essentially very minimal Wd's when I got below 2. but then everyone is different with variables including age, metabolism, length on ORT and/or addiction, lifestyle, mental attitude... etc
 
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