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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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Wow, I would have gotten down to a small dose like 1-2mgs before kicking for good. I was on 2mgs (was on 8mgs for about 6 months then 2mgs for the other 6) and when I kicked it was still pretty crazy bad... I got delirious at points really badly and was like falling asleep out of exhaustion. Day 5 was the worst I think, days 1 and 2 were uneventful and I thought it was gonna be like that the whole time; NOT. At about day 10 (I think...not too sure, the days kinda blurred together) the worst was over and I was feeling functional enough to work.

I was in a LOT of pain the whole time though, and it was hard to walk at points and I was getting super lightheaded and was on the verge of passing out when I stood up for a few days as well. I remember going for a bike ride on day 5 and getting there and could not walk or stand up like a half hour...

Its not a walk in the park , thats for sure. I told my doctor I was gonna kick , and he said "Okay, call me in a week" and gave me some bentyl for my stomach (an anticholinergic). I took like 30mgs one day during W/D's and it made me really delirious on top of everything else and made my memory so bad I got really confused... Bad bad bad.

You are pretty brave for getting off that big of a dose like that,I'm surprised you did it on your own, most doctors around here advise going to a medical detox for it because it can get so bad.... Sounds like your experience was much milder than mine, wonder why mine was so bad, considering my dose was 1/4 of yours.

I started hormones on day 10 (estradiol) and as soon as I took my first dose the withdrawals completely disappeared ! Opiates lower hormone levels, namely testosterone , so it may have had something to do with it... Estrogen is a weak opiate as well, interesting huh?

I'm about to get back on subs to kick morphine, but I hope to only be on the subs for a week or so, and then stop . Hopefully i'll be withdrawl free and not having to take anything. That would be awesome ! :)

-lenses
 
I'm trying as well.....I jumped from Morphine to Oxy, then to hydro, now I'm tapering suboxone (started at close to 8mg, now at about 1mg a day) so I hope I can get off without having to be incapaciated in a bed withering with W/Ds.....
 
Honestly - I'm below 1mg now, when I was approaching there, it took me a while to adjust. You'll feel better if you take your time to adjust to the dosage; good luck! Like SubDdude said, in a week, two weeks, or even a few months, eventually you should be back to feeling good again. :)
 
My damn problem is not to feel anything at all... I don´t even use daily. Couple times a week I shoot 3-6mg iv. and it don´t give me any effect now. I think I need to calm down and let the habit come down to feel something again. First times with bube were great. Long lasting euphoric feeling, no side-effects at all. Not the rush like Morp or Oxy but still.

I goes the tolerance goes up fast. First it was 1mg iv. - felt great. Then 2,5mg, something. Then 4mg, nothing anymore. Same goes to Oxy and Fentanyl. Tolerance will raise like a spaceship when you really use.. I´m now going down with tramadol pills.. Yet I haven´t had any bad w/d.

-Hooddood78
 
Congratulations, friend!

You have achieved something worthy of a lot of praise.

Now it is critical to stay off. Don't go back, go forward. :)
 
The general line of thought here at BL is that less is more as related to any euphoria you might get from bupe... especially with IV. I leveled out at 1mg after a lot of yrs in ort. I don't get high but do get an energy boost for awhile and I use SL. Tried IV bupe but it wasn't my cup of tea.
 
I have Transtec 40mg film, so let's say I cut it by half and then by half etc. until I get 1mg. What's better, sublingual or plugging? Or better, is plugging superior to sublingual? If yes, can I just put that 1mg piece of the film in 5ml of water for 10 min, then do the honors? I mean, would all of it dissolve?
 
I need some advice. I was taking high doses of oxy daily for a few months. I stopped and then started on suboxone, with my first dose being 10 mg. I tapered down 2mg per day and now i have been off it for 3 days. I have some hydrocodone and morphine, but i'm assuming that my oxy tolerance will block the hydrocodone as it has only been 10 days since my last dose of oxy. Will my oxy tolerance also block the morphine? Should I wait even longer?
 
Be careful I quit and well it wasn't pleasent. To each their own. Yes walking, conciousness, and sleep; can and will probably be affected. I have horror stories, but like I said to each their own. @lenses summed it up I think best. THE LONGER u do this crap the harder, and potentially dangerous it becomes (ala lighheadedness, and your health; as in will u lose weight, are you getting enough nutrients)
People often say sub is a "miracle". It's hell sorry peeps! Have fun ya I did it. One day you'll realize it isn't worth it to stay on that crap for sooooo long. Take some hydros n be sick for THREE days, instead of 2 weeks to a MONTH! Yes it can happen to you too, be ready! Stay strong peeps! Yes I've done it multiple times with the past being my LAST time. I can't tell you how horrible and "non-Miricle" this sub is! Only one will figure it out best of luck. -also this needs to be moved into the mega thread. Dunno y the mods let it stay here.
 
And to the poster don't come here and gloat...if you want to say something tell what you did. Precautions etc. it's very dangerous to come & boast. Some people may not have it the same as u. The hospital is where sum might end up; if they do WHAT YOU did!!
 
Good call on the merge, OLCapone. Hadn't even occurred to me for some reason.
 
FlyBoy81 said:
Experience BUPE users, have you experienced a very unconfortable feeling when you approach or reach 1mg per day (.5mg twice a day). I'm starting to feel really bad right now :(.
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I've been at one mg for about 3 and a half weeks now, and plan to taper lower once I get the two milligram strips. I don't know if you just take it once a day, but for me it helps to split it up into a morning and evening dose of .5 mg. I found it easier honestly going from 2 mg to 1 mg, than it was from three to two (not sure why), but I assure you, if you give yourself four days you should start to feel quite good. You'll feel each dose more, and you'll be proud that you were able to tough it out. If it's already been four days, give it at least two more to adjust, or if you need to just take an extra .5 mg if your really feeling sick, but if you've tapered slowly, you should probably have nothing worse than some anxiety and maybe a little insomnia.
 
yeah, as long as your not allready constipated from daily high dosage buprenorphine use, which would make plugging no more effective anyway. IMO, it's fine to switch ROA every once in a while if you wanna try and catch a bit more of a buzz off of your bupe, but the truth of the matter with suboxone is that less is more, and the only way to really consistantly get a nice little lift off these things is to taper down to a really low dose, and if your going to do that you should stick to one ROA, be it rectal, I.V, sniffing, sublingual etc.. The reason for this is that while someone taking there dose SL could potentially raise there tolerance through using the same amount I.V, as the absorption of sublingual is roughly 30% of the total absorption through intravenous injection. I remember when I was first experimenting with shooting suboxone, getting so let down when I found out that the one mg I was I.V'ing each day, was actually equivalent really to taking around 3/4 mg sublingual.

I would be hesitant to use buprenorphine rectally, as the absorption rate depends on whether or not your bowels are empty or not, and since all opioids cause constipation, it would seem that you would get inconsistant absorption based on whether you were backed up. However there's a thread all about it somewhere on here, so that would probably be more helpful.
 
Hey guys
Well I did the one-day-switch from methadone to suboxone and it totally wasn't worth it. After the first month or two methadone rarely gives me any significant euphoria (however yesterday's dose did, occasionally and from left field my usual dose sometimes really gets me good) and having more ontop of my usual dose did virtually nothing in the way of increasing my enjoyment of 'done, it made me feel very at ease and mixed with amp well but that was it. As for the sub, I took 2mg when I started getting to the point of unbearable jonesing and it did nil. I then took another 1mg 2 hrs later with no change, not better but not worse. For the rest of the day I spaced the rest of the 8mg sub film out over 1-2hr gaps and once I'd had the full 8mg I felt my wd's recede but that was all. At least I didn't get a horror story and it's strengthened my resolve to stick to my methadone program and continue reducing my dose until I'm finally clean early next year. So if anyone is thinking of doing a one day switch from done to sub I would say don't, if you need something for withdrawals I would recommend a CWE (if codeine is OTC where you live) or taking another weak opiate instead. Better yet don't do it at all!
 
Well I just plugged suboxone film strip 8/2mg but i only plugged a fourth of a strip and i have to say if i did it this way i could cut my dose of 8mg a day down to 4 or maby 2 mg a day however i can't see myself doing this everyday and also I'm on subs to get me off opiates do you think by me plugging I'm gonna make it harder in the end to get off them?
 
cassandragemini said:
Hey guys
Well I did the one-day-switch from methadone to suboxone and it totally wasn't worth it. After the first month or two methadone rarely gives me any significant euphoria (however yesterday's dose did, occasionally and from left field my usual dose sometimes really gets me good) and having more ontop of my usual dose did virtually nothing in the way of increasing my enjoyment of 'done, it made me feel very at ease and mixed with amp well but that was it. As for the sub, I took 2mg when I started getting to the point of unbearable jonesing and it did nil. I then took another 1mg 2 hrs later with no change, not better but not worse. For the rest of the day I spaced the rest of the 8mg sub film out over 1-2hr gaps and once I'd had the full 8mg I felt my wd's recede but that was all. At least I didn't get a horror story and it's strengthened my resolve to stick to my methadone program and continue reducing my dose until I'm finally clean early next year. So if anyone is thinking of doing a one day switch from done to sub I would say don't, if you need something for withdrawals I would recommend a CWE (if codeine is OTC where you live) or taking another weak opiate instead. Better yet don't do it at all!
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Bupe' is not going to help you in any way until you taper off the methadone for at least 2 weeks or more & then (in my case) I used dilly's' for another 7-8 days then waited for w/d's to go back on bupe' Methadone is the worst full pain agonist to transition to bupe', depending on the dosage you could be thrown into precipitated w/d's 3 weeks later...
 
girlgone11 said:
Well I just plugged suboxone film strip 8/2mg but i only plugged a fourth of a strip and i have to say if i did it this way i could cut my dose of 8mg a day down to 4 or maby 2 mg a day however i can't see myself doing this everyday and also I'm on subs to get me off opiates do you think by me plugging I'm gonna make it harder in the end to get off them?
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It's possible but it would be hard to say IMO. I don't think it would make it harder to come off of it necessarily. :)
 
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