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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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Now I wouldn't consider myself entirely experianced with psy drugs but I Have a good amount of experiance with amt taking it 30 - 40 times within the last year. I have also tried LSD and DOC + a small amount of a 2c when they first came out but nothing much happend apart from that general 'differentness' while tripping. Everyone online seems to say amt is too weak at 25 - 35mg's. To me this is the perfect dose, it creates a mostly visual but also insightful trip and as it lasts so long I found it even a bit too much at 40mg+ as I normally trip with just me and my fiancee in my house so time tends to go a lot slower then if your doing stuff. I find you really have to not fight it at all and even 'encourage' the visuals to achieve full potential of this chemical. I have had very mystical experiances on amt especially when smoking am-2201 + am-694 in a blend while tripping. My acid experiances although good were not as strong as a 30mg amt trip even at 2 tabs (the acid around here is pretty weak though). Maybe the stuff I get is stronger, maybe me and my fiancee are just easily effected by such drugs.

I made this post just as it has always confused me how people could complain about this beatiful experiance as boring or that it draws on. It does not give you insight unless you look for it and I believe a lot of positive things have come out of 1 or 2 of my amt trips were I tried to figure things out in my head about were I stood etc etc all that kinda crap. I smoke grass whenever im tripping and on a regular basis so this might have some effect and since taking DOC for the first time I decided to stop using so many stims/opiates/benzo's and to drink only when going out or on special occasions. Maybe I overthink on trips but a lot of positive shit has come out of my psychedelic experimentation and I know see my life as amazing even though I am not in the best of circumstances but I apreciate the little things, especially my fiancee. Every single time I trip, I trip with me and her and it has made us the closest I believe it is possible to be to another person as our brains already worked amazingly (scarily) well together haha.

Anyway I just posted this to show people who are thinking about trying or want more information about it can see it in the positive light as I believe it is. Its not so good solo tripping I believe but maybe I just dont like solo tripping as I tend to need other people to keep me sane and if only a little bit down to earth. I would reccomend people to this light hearted, highly sociable, very visual at high dose chemical. I tend to get nervous when at a party or something like that and tend to leave imediatley but thats just me, im already nervous around social situations apart from with close friends. Anyway, aMT is a great chemical and for the price and availabilty in the UK, a great value for money.
 
Thanks for the replies guys, and that was a really nice detailed reply OTGee. I might try smoking 20mg, then splitting the other 80mg into two separate doses of 30mg and 50mg for later use. Somewhere between 30 and 50mg is sounding like the kind of range I'm looking for.

I'm excited, can't wait until I get my hands on this stuff in a few days :D

What about total duration in response to dosage? Do doses around the 30mg mark still have the potential to last up to 24 hours for you guys? I find psychedelics tend to last a little shorter than the usual duration for me - except for an occasional trip here and there where the duration is dramatically longer.
 
30mg is definitely going to be normal duration, at least for me. I don't think you'll see those kind of durations coming out even at 80mg mark commonly, although I'd imagine that's about the threshold you'd have to hit to reach it.
 
Alright, that's a relief, as is what you said in PM about nausea only being on the come-up. 12-16 hours of tripping sounds long but perfect for a day at a festival or something. 24 hours, not so much ;)
 
Jesusgreen said:
Alright, that's a relief, as is what you said in PM about nausea only being on the come-up. 12-16 hours of tripping sounds long but perfect for a day at a festival or something. 24 hours, not so much ;)
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Yeah starting early is a plus but it is also enjoyable taking it in the early evening if you want to go all night. Your dosage sounds good especially if you already know a thing or two about psy drugs as I guess you do, have a good time and goodluck :)
 
Yeah, that's with freebase. I find the visuals from AMT to be kind of annoying. The CEVs are great but OEVs--at least inside--are kind of dirty. That odd psychedelic rainbow overlay gets really strong in the 50-60 mg range for me, and it gets to the point near the peak where my vision is clouded. Overall the visuals feel a little dirty in the light. I find a dark room to be perfect, the OEVs manifest almost as translucent smoke wafting through the air and it's very calming. I get light OEVs even at 40 mg, but I've become sensitive to them in recent months and can see them in even low doses of most psychedelics.
 
Ive never had OEV or CEV and thats on doses of like 125mg aswell.

i find it a pretty weak psychadelic, sure everything looks kinda trippy but I definatly dont get any full blown hallucinations.
 
bighooter said:
Ive never had OEV or CEV and thats on doses of like 125mg aswell.

i find it a pretty weak psychadelic, sure everything looks kinda trippy but I definatly dont get any full blown hallucinations.
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Well what do you mean by 'full-blown hallucinations'? From what I gather, these mainly only occur from delirium, psychosis and the like. Psychedelics only really make things 'trippy'. They only bend reality, not reinvent it...Although when the doses get higher with stuff like MXE, I'd consider reality reinvented.
 
People talk about taking over 50mg to get past the unpleasant effects, is this right? How long should I wait after a 4-aco-dmt trip to try this one? And what dose should I start with?

I can handle pretty intense trips so this one sounds like I could dose fairly high given some experience. Keep in mind I'm not a big fan of half-tripping, in fact I'd rather be sober.
 
I'd wait a couple of weeks after your last trip with any psychedelic just to be safe - a week is usually enough for pretty much base tolerance, but it also depends on whether you took a high or low dose, how often you've tripped recently etc.
 
i have a question, maybe 2.

is it possible to use aMT as a base for a bigger trip? such as, start the night off with a relaxing and social dose, and then add something more (aMT or otherwise) to make it more of a trippy experience?

why isnt there a big and dandy aMT combination thread? does this chemical not lend itself to combos?
 
^ Yes. This is exactly what makes aMT such a great compound. In fact, I have never done aMT without mixing it with another tryptamine at some point during the trip. :)
 
I have mostly combined it with other tryptamines:

amt + 4-aco-dmt
amt + 4-ho-met
amt + 4-ho-mipt
amt + 5-meo-dmt
amt + 5-meo-dipt.

I think amt + any 4-sub tryptamine is almost certain to be an excellent combo. Especially the 4-aco-dmt combo stands out as something truly spectacular. I like to wait 5-7h after dosing the amt before adding the other tryptamines. Also check out the amt + dpt combo, I have not tried this myself, but it is supposed to be very good. I am a bit short on time atm, but I will return to this post later. :)
 
If there's enough interest I and/or any of the other mods might make a combo subthread for this. :)

With 4-AcO-DMT + aMT, do you feel the combo would have more, or less potential for anxiety than 4-AcO-DMT alone? Although my last 2 or 3 trips with 4-AcO-DMT have been a lot nicer, I've had some VERY rough anxious rides with it (possibly due to some degradation to Psilocin, but who knows since I haven't had the product tested) and I wouldn't want to ruin an aMT experience if that happened - since I'll only have 100mg to begin with, which isn't a whole lot to work with.
 
aMT + MXE is widely considered to be a treat. I had an amazing experience on this. The dose of MXE was fairly high and taken on the tail-end of the aMT experience.
 
did you ever try K on the tail of the aMT? did the trip take on a more mxe-ish charater? or did it just enliven the comedown of the aMT?

to be honest, i have mxe lying about but by itself im not really that attracted to it...

anyone ever try aMT+ 4-aco-det?
 
kingme said:
did you ever try K on the tail of the aMT? did the trip take on a more mxe-ish charater? or did it just enliven the comedown of the aMT?

to be honest, i have mxe lying about but by itself im not really that attracted to it...

anyone ever try aMT+ 4-aco-det?
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I've only tried ketamine once, so I can't really talk about that, but in all fairness I wasn't yet coming down from the aMT. The trip had been going on for about 8-10 hours, and I was getting bored & dosed the MXE. I had the most profound, intensely euphoric experience of going to heaven with the rest of humanity in tow. Never been able to recreate this experience since.
 
Well worth bearing in mind aMT is an MAOI and as such mixtures involving stims should be avoided.
 
This stuff I've heard suits partying well, that information correct?

I'm gaining intel on this compound right now, so far - lasts long, takes time to kick in...
 
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