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absolutely, without a doubt 100% bang on the buck comment. legend. ive thought this to myself many times. for me this is so true
The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)
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absolutely, without a doubt 100% bang on the buck comment. legend. ive thought this to myself many times. for me this is so true
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Hah. well I might keep it to ~90 then, but all at once instead of split into two doses. Don't have the opportunity to use this in the foreseable future with a full day off the next day, always have work or school. Do not want to be out of it that bad, or do I?
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I suspect a lot of people may be able to relate. For those who may disagree, what's your secret?
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been doing some K tonight, gotta say, i fucking love MXE and K. have been doing MXE on and off over the past year, occasional weekend usage only. Only been doing K for a couple of weeks, they're so both beautifully similar yet far apart. just nearly K-holed it. reminded me so much of a M-hole. was like the reality span up and retracted into a singularity and time stopped to a beautiful, perfect moment. connected to everything
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Only took 15mg in the end, and I was pleasantly surprised. This is incredibly euphoric for me. Interestingly it was fairly neutral until I decided to do some push ups (looks like this work out theory holds true?) - but after that (or maybe it just coincided well with the peak) I've been left with the most amazing sense of happiness, love, fuzziness and softness.
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^ Although your post doesn't exactly contribute a whole lot in the way of a description. In my state right now I have to agree :D
The right music and dosing at the right pace make all the difference. I've had my fair share of "ugh why do I do this to myself" experiences, but the more experience I get the less often they happen. I only dose through IM so that could also make a difference. The right music is highly subjective of course, but I've found that kid cudi is the perfect music for this. As for dosing, I start off with 45 mg (nice, feel mellowed out), follow up with another 45 mg a half hour to hour later (really starting to feel it, sway with the beat and dance a bit, occasional moments of slipping out), then wait another half hour to hour and do one more dose (FFUUUUUUCCCK YESSSS). Don't let the music stop, keep the room darkish, sit in tinychat and attempt to communicate when you feel the need. If you begin to feel antsy or the nature of reality starts to bother you either get up and dance/stretch or close your eyes. Make sure to stay warm, all my worst trips have been when I was cold, it made me feel empty.
Fuck, I might dose a couple of times before bed, this stuff is too great.
How do you guys spend your trips?
Fuck, I might dose a couple of times before bed, this stuff is too great.
How do you guys spend your trips?
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I think it is definitely wise to start extra low with this chemical. I took 15mg expecting to most likely be underwhelmed but I got a very full and wholesome experience, quite an intensely euphoric one too.
Although Erowid lists the duration for sublingual as lasting 3-5 hours, I am still coming down at near enough dead on 6 hours since dosing, so I'd also make sure anyone planning their first time gives some extra leeway in case the experience lasts longer than they expect.
Although Erowid lists the duration for sublingual as lasting 3-5 hours, I am still coming down at near enough dead on 6 hours since dosing, so I'd also make sure anyone planning their first time gives some extra leeway in case the experience lasts longer than they expect.
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What are the largest doses of MXE you guys have heard people report they have ingested?
I saw that one user reported to have administered 250mg intrarectally with rather profound effects.
I am curious how common something like that is, and what dosage range is now considered to be a "heavy dose" for both tolerant, and non-tolerant users.
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I saw that one user reported to have administered 250mg intrarectally with rather profound effects.
I am curious how common something like that is, and what dosage range is now considered to be a "heavy dose" for both tolerant, and non-tolerant users.
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There was one guy a while back who somehow managed to insufflate a gram of MXE on the grounds that he thought it was bunk. I think his mum found him facedown on the living room floor, having an insanely strong trip. It took him about two days to sober up.
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^holy fuck, I could never do a whole gram!
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^ I think it's important to note that we don't know for sure that he took Methoxetamine, and given how potent this is, it wouldn't be wise for anyone to try and take a dose that large, even with a substantial tolerance.
If approaching this drug with an existing dissociative tolerance it might be a good idea to give the tolerance some time to wear off, rather than risking larger doses, as the safety profile of Methoxetamine is not yet fully known.
It seems little as 40-50mg can be a lot if taken sublingually.
If approaching this drug with an existing dissociative tolerance it might be a good idea to give the tolerance some time to wear off, rather than risking larger doses, as the safety profile of Methoxetamine is not yet fully known.
It seems little as 40-50mg can be a lot if taken sublingually.
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I can't see anyone wanting to dose even half a gram, let alone a gram. That's a lot of drug powder to awkwardly administer.
The guy I mentioned was a bit of a rare case. It was a serious mistake which he probably won't be hurrying to repeat.
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The dosage needed by non-tolerant users to achieve certain subjective effects varies a lot (and the quality of those effects varies widely as well). The dosage among tolerant users varies far more. A tolerant user can be at the beginning of tolerance development or at an insanely glutinous high point of a morbidly obese body. I suppose the practical thing for the tolerant community to do is to honestly state their frequency of use, typical dose, body stats, and duration of usage so that others at various points along tolerance development can compare said regimen to their own.
Personally, I am no more tolerant to MXE than when I began its use, nor am I physiologically tolerant to dissociatives in general (I'm 175 lbs). I typically use three 30 mg rectal doses over a few hours when I'm home alone to get the effects I'm interested in, though I've gone as high as 150 mg in two doses on top of 600 mg of DXM and 16 mg of ondansetron (IIRC). During those sessions I started to see things projected on the ceiling (and have ideas that I was part of, among other things, a narrative in an audiobook I had been listening to), but the mind state didn't seem very useful. I haven't gone back to such high dissociation since. Most of my most powerful MXE experiences have occurred at around 90 mg staggered over a few hours, and have not occurred inevitably as a function of dose, but instead tend to be spurred on by some environmental or psychological variable. MXE manipulates my ego in more varied ways than any other drug I've used. It doesn't dissolve it necessarily, but magnifies, distorts, and reveals it, and hones in on particulars of its ontogeny. That's predominately what I find valuable about MXE.
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headphones in gliding through music, or crawling around face down on living room carpet with people feeling like im swimming, completely losing myself and going on an epic journey. or on lower doses, dancing around feeling like im a robot made out of liquid electricity, contemplating life and having some very deep introspective convos. madness
music is very important on this stuff, guides it very well
as for the biggest dose ive ever done, i reckon around 150mg-ish mark ontop of alcohol, seriously would not recommend it. very fucked up experience, woke up still wonky, feeling sick and mashed hours later. entire trip must have lasted about 12 hours and it was nasty. thought i was dead, or gonna die, couldnt see anything for ages
if anyone is considering a high dose, make sure you have a sitter with benzos at hand
hahaha so funny :D exactly this happend one of my first times with mxe.
i did ~3g in 24h somewhere near the end of the experiance my mom came to visit(wich she never does when im sober she always senses when i have altered my state) ~2h she tried to "wake me up" while i was out of body, my corpse on the floor with blood from my nose all over hahaha never did dose so recklessly mxe after that but that was really my only mystical and meaningfull experiance with mxe all other seemed spiritualy empty
tricky substance next time im going to try it will be 50-100mg to potentate and hopfully prolong a ketamine experiance as i have fond 15-80mg do absolutley nothing other than little stimulation little antidpresant effects but no mystical/psychedelic effects and if i go higher than that the experiance gets messy
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Wait, maybe you're the guy I was trying to recollect. Did you post this experience a little while back?
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