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I want to go to hell.

YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
You're deluded if you think its going to be sex, drugs and rock n roll. According to the same tradition- just an eternity of tormented awareness without hope of change or mercy.
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I know isn't, so no, I'm not deluded.

YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
According to the Abrahamic tradition that you appear to be alluding to hiphop , it might be argued that there will be no 'hanging out' with satan. Its a place devoid of Light and Love which is God..
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I don't find God's attitude towards people like the Dalai Lama distasteful and unloving and the same about his view of the phelps even moreso.

YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Are you serious about preferring an eternity of hell or just being polemical?
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Yes, as stated I'm against the radical shift in consciousness that would be heaven. Which is also where we get into the would I even be in heaven, what makes a person a existent ect.

YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
I wouldnt want anyone to attempt to convince me of that Panic in Paradise. I wouldnt even want to ponder such a thing.
What an awful thing to say! The devil is a Spirit not a human.
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actually.. I'm not even going to get into this.
 
I really don't know what stance you are coming from Hip hop. If you've come from a Christian background or otherwise. It appears you are coming to your own conclusions. If youve been hurt in some way I would urge you to consider if it was really
God (Love ) that has hurt you or the world as it is.

May I just ask you? What do you think Gods views on the Dalai Lama are? Do you think the world as it is is satisfactory? Nothing rhetorical in my questions here just intrigued.:)

Peace n Love
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Or because its bullshit Hip Hop?? There are no apocyrphal works that I am aware of that were or are part of the apostlolic
tradition. The tradition and teachings that go back to the apostles and the people that surrounded the historical Christ.

Where is your fiction here Hip Hop and where is the biblical stuff that you refer to? Why dont we look at the biblical stuff
first if you have the chapters and verses?
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Why not remove the sections of Deuteronomy or psalms that have nothing to do with god? what about the old testament books and pieces of old testament books removed? We could get into plenty of arguments of the Fallaciousness of accepting the bible is an ultimate truth and then condemning the Apocrypha when they themselves were part of the bible. I however am not in the mood and doubt I will be in the mood to go over that now or in the near future. So, we'll establish the grounds right now that that either ignoring the Apocrypha is bullshit or Accepting that the bible has been tampered with and that we are letting decisions of imperfect man reflect the "true" word of god.
 
Ndeed there is plenty to debate here.

Accepting that the bible has been tampered with and that we are letting decisions of imperfect man reflect the "true" word of god.
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Right.. Its becoming apparent to me that its actually the Church as you see it and Theology that you take issue with rather than God.
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
I really don't know what stance you are coming from Hip hop. If you've come from a Christian background or otherwise. It appears you are coming to your own conclusions. If youve been hurt in some way I would urge you to consider if it was really
God (Love ) that has hurt you or the world as it is.

May I just ask you? What do you think Gods views on the Dalai Lama are? Do you think the world as it is is satisfactory? Nothing rhetorical in my questions here just intrigued.:)

Peace n Love
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catholic
then
Protestant christian
then
Diest
then
taoist

No I was not hurt. Once I realized that all the empowerment I had felt under strict christian leadership was nothing more then a conjecture of my mind and that I had been conjuring delusions of support from an invisible person. I felt a lot better. I don't resent my time in the church because without it I would probably be dead now.

Dalai lama, is aware of Jesus, does not appear to be a practicing christian. Therefor, going to hell. I can't really say that he hasn't accepted Christ as his lord and savior but I don't think he has.
 
Ok heres something about me.

I like the dalai Lama
I find Taoism interesting.
I dont appear to be a 'practising' Christian but know and Love Christ as God, Saviour, Hero. Friend, Healer ( list is endless)
I know for certain Im going to heaven.
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Ndeed there is plenty to debate here.


Right.. Its becoming apparent to me that its actually the Church as you see it and Theology that you take issue with rather than God.
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It's all one allegorical blob. Hell why not get into the whole Judaism was stolen from was stolen from Kemetian religion was stolen from Mesopotamian religion stuff.

right now I'd like to apologize for however inflammatory I'm being I don't mean to be. Especially don't mean to disrespect you. It's midterms and I'm stuck trying to write a 12 page paper with one of the driest prompts I've ever had.
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Ok heres something about me.

I like the dalai Lama
I find Taoism interesting.
I dont appear to be a 'practising' Christian but know and Love Christ as God, Saviour, Hero. Friend, Healer ( list is endless)
I know for certain Im going to heaven.
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I hope you're not Lukewarm
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!
So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
 
LOl Jesus knows I'm hot babe :) Hope youre not skiving off from doing your homework!

That verse in Revelations says more to me about Passion and Love for a Living God. Hes the utter Love of my Life.
There is nothing lukewarm about my Passion and Love for Jesus Christ.

Like you I've done church and been disillusioned. I'm taking time out for a while. Thats not something I believe I've
done independently of God and would be back in the pews weekly in a heartbeat if I really knew that is what
He wants for me right now. The will of God is a fluid thing for me its not something written in stone. :)

Shalom
 
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Isn't Hell, by definition, somewhere you don't want to be? I dunno how exactly it's portrayed in christianity etc., but I always assumed that heaven was just based on what, individually, people would perceive as paradise, and hell what they would consider torture (physical pain being the almost universal standard for this)
 
nAON said:
Isn't Hell, by definition, somewhere you don't want to be? I dunno how exactly it's portrayed in christianity etc., but I always assumed that heaven was just based on what, individually, people would perceive as paradise, and hell what they would consider torture (physical pain being the almost universal standard for this)
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You obviously haven't found pleasure in S & M.
 
I haven't read the whole thread, but surely someone has made a Hicks reference.
In case they haven't: "Hell is where the good music is"
 
nAON said:
Isn't Hell, by definition, somewhere you don't want to be? I dunno how exactly it's portrayed in christianity etc., but I always assumed that heaven was just based on what, individually, people would perceive as paradise, and hell what they would consider torture (physical pain being the almost universal standard for this)
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This is a horribly convoluted subject. A lot of it is based on subjective interpretations of the bible. But no, the Chrisitain heaven is a place where you got to be always jubilant forever worshiping at the feet of god while simultaneously having a kick ass party every time someone accepts Christ as their savior.
 
hiphophippy said:
This is a horribly convoluted subject. A lot of it is based on subjective interpretations of the bible. But no, the Chrisitain heaven is a place where you got to be always jubilant forever worshiping at the feet of god while simultaneously having a kick ass party every time someone accepts Christ as their savior.
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Yep according to the bible there will be a lot of partying, but I dont think it will be some enforced, eternal jubilance.. We have free will !! :D Theres no ' got to' its utter freedom.
Disagree with Hicks here. Hell is a total absence of God, Light, Love Life.. No life but awareness forever of the cold empty darkness.. * shudder *
No 'good' music. Nothing creative at all.
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Yep according to the bible there will be a lot of partying, but I dont think it will be some enforced, eternal jubilance.. We have free will !! :D Theres no ' got to' its utter freedom.
Disagree with Hicks here. Hell is a total absence of God, Light, Love Life.. No life but awareness forever of the cold empty darkness.. * shudder *
No 'good' music. Nothing creative at all.
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Krishna says, a life with-out acknowledging God, is the only suicide -

this has almost endless meaning.
 
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My feeling is that the OP isn't really being serious, but if he is, then this thread is the byproduct of someone taking their own thoughts too seriously, and an example of logic having its limitations...then again this post could be construed that way as well....just saying....
 
I think Freds understandably angry, pissed off and confused about organised religion. Sometimes though that utter iconoclasm results in a true understanding of God. ( IMO)
 
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