Mr Blonde
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Off topic, but apparently my brother is so poor that he is raiding the ashtray, getting the remaining tobacco out of the butts and then smoking that through his homemade Mount Franklin bong. Guy needs a job.
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Verybuffed
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Get him some Damiana or Marshmallow herb. I was where he is when I was 16 and it's nasty.
AFA
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brother i lived like that for two years, no money for weed so just walked into town wiv a ciggy tin collecting butts for a few hours then get bac home and have a baccy bong sesshion for a couple of hours. also after many baccy bongs your hunger pains leave you
heythatsmybike
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Mr Blonde
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^ Ha ha, I'll take that under consideration. 
Sorry to continue off-topic but I need to rant about him. He has so much talent and has the capacity to be really intelligent but I honestly believe that all the pot he has/does smoke has taken away all motivation from him and at the age of almost 18 and out of school for a year he just sits at home all day watching TV shows and movies and doing nothing. If he had tried, he could have gotten a decent mark from high school but instead got an OP 21 (for non QLD'ers, that's pretty bad). I am trying to get him and his friend involved in things but sometimes it really seems like a sisyphean task.
Anyway maybe I'll ask him his opinion on the topic to make up for taking this off-track.
Sorry to continue off-topic but I need to rant about him. He has so much talent and has the capacity to be really intelligent but I honestly believe that all the pot he has/does smoke has taken away all motivation from him and at the age of almost 18 and out of school for a year he just sits at home all day watching TV shows and movies and doing nothing. If he had tried, he could have gotten a decent mark from high school but instead got an OP 21 (for non QLD'ers, that's pretty bad). I am trying to get him and his friend involved in things but sometimes it really seems like a sisyphean task.
Anyway maybe I'll ask him his opinion on the topic to make up for taking this off-track.
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Or a lobotomy by the sounds of it
heyy no hating on aussie teen culture 8)
Verybuffed
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^ Ha ha, I'll take that under consideration.
Sorry to continue off-topic but I need to rant about him. He has so much talent and has the capacity to be really intelligent but I honestly believe that all the pot he has/does smoke has taken away all motivation from him and at the age of almost 18 and out of school for a year he just sits at home all day watching TV shows and movies and doing nothing. If he had tried, he could have gotten a decent mark from high school but instead got an OP 21 (for non QLD'ers, that's pretty bad). I am trying to get him and his friend involved in things but sometimes it really seems like a sisyphean task.
Anyway maybe I'll ask him his opinion on the topic to make up for taking this off-track.
He is only a young pup. I wouldn't stress so much mate. Have a talk to him, tell him how you feel then show him the thread. It might help bring it back home to him. Don't be too disappointed if he tells you where to go though. I am sure you remember what it is like at that age
Mr Blonde
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Yeah I do remember... it took me a few years to figure out what I wanted to do for a career and to get my life more in order. At least I'd always had a job since 14 though... the longest he has had work is two weeks at KFC.
lovepsychadelics
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Mr. Blonde take heart that at least he is not walking down the street with a milk bottle knocking on the doors of all the local bong heads and asking "can I empty your bong water" then after collecting all that nasty going home and straining it through some rag collecting the black crud and then smoking that! A friend of mine lived in Logan and a bloke who lived at the end of his street would do that every couple of days. I'd be sitting at my mates house and this guy would turn up going door to door. It didn't matter if you smoked weed or not he'd also ask to empty your ashtray for dumpers LOL. It's all a matter of perspective.
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try get him some laboring work or light construction, great life skills and very motivational experiencing lots of progression happening because of the work you and boss or team are doing. work like gardening/labouring at that age is great IME, fairy heavy physical work 8-12 hours a day theres nothing more rewarding than well... rewarding your self with a phat cone of dank and maybe a beer after a big day at work. its hard to get used to the fact that u gunna be working a fuk load (5days a week) for the next 30+ years.
iv been in a very similar position to your bro by the sounds of it.
retail/ food prep work is soooo shitty compaired to helping building a deck etc.
also outside work is great for gettin into a "good health based" lifestyle phree vitamin D from the sun etc lol.
iv been in a very similar position to your bro by the sounds of it.
retail/ food prep work is soooo shitty compaired to helping building a deck etc.
also outside work is great for gettin into a "good health based" lifestyle phree vitamin D from the sun etc lol.
Oh fuck that just made me remember a dude that used to come round a friends place and scrape the bong for res... Was sort of ok, until one day my mate woke up to find him in the lounge room one morning scraping it... Just invited himself in and started... 8(
Didn't see him again after that.
Verybuffed
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That is amazing. Even I have never heard of anything that extreme. Gutterhash is one thing but doing the rounds every day to collect everyone's filth is just messed up. I wonder if many people gave the guy weed or money? Maybe that is why he was doing it.
true enough, i guess it's "a matter of who you know". if you ever get the chance, i'd really recommend the bud/leaf joint mix. you can enjoy the flavour of the cannabis more, breathe it in nice and deep without the dizziness.
i'd rather 'spin' with damiana or some other inactive herb than tobacco, but i guess i just have an aversion to that toxic shit.
it's a matter of taste i 'spose - some folk obviously enjoy being smashed in the face with a 'baccy headspin.
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Jakeperson
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Or they just don't get it or notice it.
I use tobacco in joints but always less than a cigarrettes worth (even for 2+ papers) and have never had a problem with headspins. I am a smoker and I can't smoke more than half a cigarette with out headspins so maybe every one else is just using too much?
Don't you find damiana to be extremely harsh on your throat after a little while?
I use tobacco in joints but always less than a cigarrettes worth (even for 2+ papers) and have never had a problem with headspins. I am a smoker and I can't smoke more than half a cigarette with out headspins so maybe every one else is just using too much?
Don't you find damiana to be extremely harsh on your throat after a little while?
Mr Blonde
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions everyone! Sorry I didn't reply sooner but I forgot that I'd posted in here and was distracted a bit.
AFA: I think I will suggest that to him, it would definitely do him some good. I just have to word it in the right way; he is pretty sensitive whenever people try to talk to him about the future, getting a job, etc... angst filled almost.
He and I are both heavy smokers (of cigarettes; I don't smoke pot), and he says that he doesn't find spinning too harsh or to alter the marijuana much at all apart from making it somewhat smoother.
AFA: I think I will suggest that to him, it would definitely do him some good. I just have to word it in the right way; he is pretty sensitive whenever people try to talk to him about the future, getting a job, etc... angst filled almost.
He and I are both heavy smokers (of cigarettes; I don't smoke pot), and he says that he doesn't find spinning too harsh or to alter the marijuana much at all apart from making it somewhat smoother.
i'm not a cigarette smoker, and i never have been, so i find tobacco to be really harsh on my body.
if i smoked more than a joint or two i'd end up with headache, nausea. it's just one of those things...i think marijuana is beautiful but i'm not into cigs, so i don't see the point in polluting one with the other.
for smokers or people that enjoy tobacco i can totally understand the two going hand-in-hand.
yeah, damiana's not ideal, i'm just saying i'd personally rather that than tobacco. any of those bullshit herbs, really, if you must.
if there's tobacco in a joint i smoke it fairly gently - i can't hit that fucker like i would if i'd rolled it. not so satisfying.
if i was rolling, it'd be about 50/50 (give or take, depending on supply) bud and leaf - and you'd fucking dig it
it's just my preference though - not saying there is anything wrong with mixing the two, but if i'm rolling, there's no way in hell i'm putting any tobacco in there. not some high and mighty thing, just the way i roll.
if i smoked more than a joint or two i'd end up with headache, nausea. it's just one of those things...i think marijuana is beautiful but i'm not into cigs, so i don't see the point in polluting one with the other.
for smokers or people that enjoy tobacco i can totally understand the two going hand-in-hand.
yeah, damiana's not ideal, i'm just saying i'd personally rather that than tobacco. any of those bullshit herbs, really, if you must.
if there's tobacco in a joint i smoke it fairly gently - i can't hit that fucker like i would if i'd rolled it. not so satisfying.
if i was rolling, it'd be about 50/50 (give or take, depending on supply) bud and leaf - and you'd fucking dig it
it's just my preference though - not saying there is anything wrong with mixing the two, but if i'm rolling, there's no way in hell i'm putting any tobacco in there. not some high and mighty thing, just the way i roll.
Mr Blonde
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I heard from a daily cannabis smoker that spinning with catnip is interesting, for what it's worth. Said it added more 'sparkle', whatever that means.
thestudent14
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@Mr.Blonde
Sucks your brother isn't doing much, how old are you and what is your area of profession if you don't mind me asking?
I have seen other people do the same thing as your brother, it can take awhile to break the habit. I've always found that the less work you do, the harder it becomes to do anything. You put all tasks off to the next day because you always have time to, normally boredom kicks in sooner or later and people realise they really need a job. But weed definitely makes you feel okay to be bored. It's a prick of a habit to break in that sense. Perhaps speak to him more in general about what interests him and best ways to get towards it. I've said to many of my friends that direction is the most important thing, it's what makes us work towards something. You can balance drug use or even abuse but unless you are working towards something it gets harder and harder to do so.
Getting back on topic of the thread.
Since I started smoking weed it was always mixed with tobacco (7 years ago when I was 15), as far as I knew that was the norm everywhere. I had never smoked a ciggarette and always figured that all the affects I had were completely from the weed. About 4 years later for the first time I had a bong that was pure tobacco (because we were out of weed and my mate said that they were okay). To my drunk'n suprise I enjoyed it far more then I thought I would, incredible head rush. But about 10minutes later I realised I was not remotely high which made perfect sense.
After that I started trying smoking joints green mostly to compare, I find green J's much harsher on my throat, and the high is more funny and not as exhausting as ripping several cones. But I love that inital head rush that the tobacco makes you feel. So here I am now nearly 23, I only smoke weed about 4 or 5 times a month now, but I still prefer them mixed with tobacco. Something about that initial rush that I'm so used to makes me wanna have it much more then without.
The main drawback is though, smoking mixed long enough does make you start to get addicted to the tobacco more then the weed. I never touched a cigarette until I was 21, but these days if I'm offered one I find it hard to say no to and rarely do and I definitely don't wanna become a smoker so I try my best to never buy a pack. However this makes me a scab when I'm out drinking with friends, damn you tobacco and your mild and addictive high.
Sucks your brother isn't doing much, how old are you and what is your area of profession if you don't mind me asking?
I have seen other people do the same thing as your brother, it can take awhile to break the habit. I've always found that the less work you do, the harder it becomes to do anything. You put all tasks off to the next day because you always have time to, normally boredom kicks in sooner or later and people realise they really need a job. But weed definitely makes you feel okay to be bored. It's a prick of a habit to break in that sense. Perhaps speak to him more in general about what interests him and best ways to get towards it. I've said to many of my friends that direction is the most important thing, it's what makes us work towards something. You can balance drug use or even abuse but unless you are working towards something it gets harder and harder to do so.
Getting back on topic of the thread.
Since I started smoking weed it was always mixed with tobacco (7 years ago when I was 15), as far as I knew that was the norm everywhere. I had never smoked a ciggarette and always figured that all the affects I had were completely from the weed. About 4 years later for the first time I had a bong that was pure tobacco (because we were out of weed and my mate said that they were okay). To my drunk'n suprise I enjoyed it far more then I thought I would, incredible head rush. But about 10minutes later I realised I was not remotely high which made perfect sense.
After that I started trying smoking joints green mostly to compare, I find green J's much harsher on my throat, and the high is more funny and not as exhausting as ripping several cones. But I love that inital head rush that the tobacco makes you feel. So here I am now nearly 23, I only smoke weed about 4 or 5 times a month now, but I still prefer them mixed with tobacco. Something about that initial rush that I'm so used to makes me wanna have it much more then without.
The main drawback is though, smoking mixed long enough does make you start to get addicted to the tobacco more then the weed. I never touched a cigarette until I was 21, but these days if I'm offered one I find it hard to say no to and rarely do and I definitely don't wanna become a smoker so I try my best to never buy a pack. However this makes me a scab when I'm out drinking with friends, damn you tobacco and your mild and addictive high.