the official 2011-12 college football thread! part 1 ver. WHERE IS SMOTPOKER??

[China Rider]

that situation at psu

considering it has zero effect on my personal life

i find it rather amusing

 

[MrGrunge]

Hopefully, once they lose to Nebraska, all of the players and coaches get out before the riots start up again.

It's gonna be an awkward game.

 

[Kenickie]

It sucks that it had to go down this way. And one guys mistakes did fuck up the schools reputation. I mean who really wants to go to penn state now that JoePa is not a coach anymore. On local news shows a lot of football players throughout PA say they're not looking at playing at Penn State anymore. That they mine as well go else where. Everyone here in Pennsylvania goes WE ARE PENN STATE but now I'm not sure how many people are chanting that right now. Everyone was saying JoePa was penn state and basically he was... Which is the worst part because education is under looked even though they have such a great achievements that recently happened. Such as finding a cure to kill cancer in all tested lab rats but no one has heard about that... Anyways I think they should of just let him retire. It would of caused less problems and things would be less hectic. Kids were sad at first that he was retiring but they accepted that but then to have him fired through the phone angered many.

you know, i have a problem with you and i think you're basically an idiot, but as a football fan i'm trying to understand the confusion and hurt and fury that penn state fans (and anyone who lives in pennsylvania) must be feeling right now. you, are not part of it. this post is complete bullshit and basically serves to reaffirm you have nothing to add to anything, even when you should be listened to the most because you are closest to the situation. instead, you say crazy things like "underlooked" (???) and that penn state has cured cancer. if you really gave a shit about where you lived/came from, you'd be demanding that joe pa be tried and held accountable. you obviously haven't been paying attention as the sports media has, and that's a damn shame. Joe Paterno let a massive child pornography, sex trafficking, and prostitution ring exist and function on his campus. and that's just scratching the surface. say "we are penn state" all you want, but that's just saying you support an accessory to rape over the victims, because that's what joe pa is. an accessory to rape. he covered up rape, molestation and abuse so that he could break some records. people say he acknowledged what happened and informed his superiors. but that's it. boys were being raped on the daily and he told who he was supposed to so his sins were washed away. it's absolutely disgusting. i don't care if he's old. telling the guy in front of you at the watercooler does not absolve you of moral responsibility. do you understand the implications of this? do you understand how big this is? there are missing prosecutors (presumed dead), hundreds of raped boys, millions of dirty dollars, professional people covering for each other. rumors, speculations, half formed ideas at this point, but seriously, this is what people believe. this is what i believe. if joe pa went 10 years without mentioning this TO ANYONE BUT WHO HE WAS LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO, this is true. this is more than 'we are penn state'. if you refuse to acknowledge that, then you are just as fucking dumb as i think you are.

you know, maybe pennsylvania is just made for rapists. hellooooo big ben!

 

[spaceyourbass]

Even more cheating by Ohio State...a bad one too.

Ohio State now faces 'failure to monitor'

ESPN.com
By Brian Bennett

The NCAA has notified Ohio State that it will face a "failure to monitor" charge in addition to more allegations of rules violations by its troubled football program.

Ohio State will strip itself of five total football scholarships over the next three years in response to the further alleged violations, the school announced Thursday.

The Buckeyes, who were awaiting a ruling after appearing before the NCAA committee on infractions Aug. 12 for the tattoo-for-memorabilia scandal, received another notice of allegations from the NCAA on Nov. 3. Those allegations revolved around a Cleveland-area booster who provided extra benefits to players.

"Failure to monitor" is among the most serious allegations the NCAA can bring against a member school.


http://espn.go.com/college-football...ps-ohio-state-buckeyes-failure-monitor-charge

 

[Methadone84]

The news is on and it shows kids crying on tv over everything happening on their campus....

Last night at the protests the kids flipped over a news van ect and police in riot gear were called to break everything up.

everyone who rioted are fuckin retarded. and it wasnt just one mans mistake that messed it up it was everyones who knew about what was going on including joe. Im glad im a Temple fan.

 

[ChickenScratch]

say "we are penn state" all you want, but that's just saying you support an accessory to rape over the victims

i disagree with this statement.

 

[Pander Bear]

me too, kenickie is PWI— way over the legal limit.

 

[axl blaze]

damn, Ohio State getting hit with the dreaded Failure to Monitor is no good

all my team can do at this point is to keep on winning. this team should be used to extra-curricular noise and blocking it out by now

the Buckeyes are usual monsters by this time in November, commonly winning all their games in such a clutch month. I hope nothing changes. once again, what makes this tOSU team so exciting yet scary to watch as a fan is that this team can beat almost any other team, but also they can lose to any other team right along with it

 

[cj]

^^^
Yea that does hurt I dont really like Ohio State but I like the NCAA even less they are a bunch of no good thieves and hypocrites. The loss of scholarships is a program killer as an Alabama fan we suffered through something similar in the early 2000s and it was dreadful to watch depth will become a big issue with the ensuing 4th quarter collapses that are endlessly painful to experience. But I gotta say yall have suprised me this year so maybe it wont be as bad for you guys.

 

[Pander Bear]

i know the moment has passed, but...

 

[Pander Bear]

UGA trounces Auburn
OSU loses to some trade school from indiana
The kiddie diddlers lose to corn huskers
Mizzou beats texas
TCU ruins boise's chances of ruining the BCS again
Stanford (probably) beats Oregon
a conference win eludes tennessee
Texas A&M (probably) beats KSU

 

[axl blaze]

yeah, congrats on your win. it always feel so good to trounce your rivals

and fuck my life. I haven't even changed from my PJs yet. the joke's on Purdue, because only dudes go to that school anyways

sometimes I think my psyche would benefit from me giving up sports all-together

 

[axl blaze]

Stanford VS Oregon is about to start - which team do ya'll got??

I'm going with Stanford. I don't expect much defense, and I see a score of something like 42-35 - Stanford

is Luck really that good? I don't remember the last time a QB was this hyped in his last NCAA season prior to the NFL

 

[Pander Bear]

crooked fucking PAC 12 refs are handing this game to Oregon.

 

[Kenickie]

i can't believe pac 12 is the highlight game

what kind of fuckery is this

 

[34-dihydroxyphen]

is Luck really that good? I don't remember the last time a QB was this hyped in his last NCAA season prior to the NFL

As an NFL prospect, yes he is. He is damn good in college to go with it. Obviously, he isn't quite having a Tebow or Killa Cam college career, as most pro-style QB's do not, but he is fucking good.

He is being extra-hyped because he will be the greatest draft prospect since Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf, however (see how the coin flips?). Perhaps he is a bit inflated out there as far as his skills in the college game (as a college player he looked about even with Barkley, even though I would wish for RGIII or Landry Jones over him for my Dolphins), but that draft hype can do crazy things to a prospect.

As a Miami fan, I have seen many players outside the QB position who were artificially inflated as to their contributions on a college team due to how high their measurables would get them drafted. Greg Olsen (Currently Tight End for the Carolina Panthers, and a damn good one) comes to mind first, he was below average at Miami (in his defense, he had the likes of Kyle Wright throwing to him) but he was all the analysts would talk about because he was a sure first rounder.


I am so numb to this season. Miami lost to FSU and I'm all like meh....

I guess I knew to keep my expectations low for a head coach's first year at a new school. Saban lost to UL-Lafayette in his first year, and at least we managed to kill Duke and Bethune Cookman, and beat an Ohio State team with no QB. Taking a closer look at history, a coach's second year is his true proving ground. Saban, Meyer, Carroll, Stoops (although Stoops is a little overrated) all had poor first years before bringing their respective programs back. I knew this before the season, so even though I've watched every loss this year and tortured myself with the idea that we can beat an above average team, I have always known in my heart that this year was going to suck.

Anyways, my mind is mostly out of the college and NFL football game so I hardly watch other games this year is so fucking depressing.

I only wish we had Jacory for longer. He has proven that he is a talented QB who suffered from some really shit coaching under Mark "throw it deep every time you weak armed but intelligent QB who should really be checking the ball down to our speedy RB's or throwing across the middle to a talented group of WR's" Whipple. Sad that his redemption comes in a season where our offense is good enough but our defense is awful, and that he has to leave before he can have a truly legendary season here.

All I know is that for the sake of the relevance of all Florida's Big 3 schools we must beat USF next weekend. Miami losing to USF is good for neither Miami, Florida, or Florida State. No excuse for losing to second rate Big East teams, especially two years in a row. Although I only believe we lost last year because everybody knew Shannon was on his way out. Very similar to the Dolphins this year with Sparano, where our retard of an owner made overtures to different coaches while retaining the lame duck coach. You cannot play for a man you do not respect, even if you like him.

 

[34-dihydroxyphen]

i can't believe pac 12 is the highlight game

what kind of fuckery is this

Contrary to popular belief teams outside of the SEC are relevant to College Football.

I would give Stanford more than a punchers chance to take down LSU should they match up in the title game, although it looks like Ok State is going and I do not have a similar faith in them.

 

[Pander Bear]

Contrary to popular belief teams outside of the SEC are relevant to College Football.

Can you really blame us... really?

I would give Stanford more than a punchers chance to take down LSU should they match up in the title game,

You also thought Miami was ACC championship bound at the start of the season though, didn't you? Given how poorly Stanford is protecting the ball, I wouldn't give them a snowballs chance in hell against LSU. I frankly like Oregon's chances in a rematch better. As for OSU— idk. I don't think anybody really knows yet. It'll be interesting to see how the come out of their game with the sooners next week.

 

[34-dihydroxyphen]

Can you really blame us... really?

You also thought Miami was ACC championship bound at the start of the season though, didn't you? Given how poorly Stanford is protecting the ball, I wouldn't give them a snowballs chance in hell against LSU. I frankly like Oregon's chances in a rematch better. As for OSU— idk. I don't think anybody really knows yet. It'll be interesting to see how the come out of their game with the sooners next week.

Yes, we can blame you, really


And no, I had only hope that Miami could possibly win in what appeared to be a down year in the ACC (when isn't it? Until FSU and Miami come back, I suppose), but no prediction. I did expect Miami to make it to a BCS game and possibly the NC last year, as did many well respected analysts, before we had the collective realization that Shannon was a horrible coach. But my occasionally delusional views on my home team do not make me delusional about other teams. I'm only emotionally invested in a few other teams (by hatred), but I try not to let that color my perspective the way it gets colored by all things Miami.

Stanford's got a good goddamn QB and in football that is all it takes sometimes (See USC Texas NC game a few years back, USC being undoubtedly the better team but Texas having a monster in Vince Young), as well as a nice enough defense. Ok State is to be seen, but I just don't like those Big 12 or Big 10 chances against SEC teams.

Oregon will get raped by LSU. Oregon is fast but undersized. Every time I look at their DT's I find it amazing that they play at such a high level. They can get away with it against a lot of teams, but LSU is enormous. Tommy Moffit (strength and conditioning coach, brought Miami to returned glory in the early 2000's then bolted to LSU) is the reason Les "the dumbest coach to ever have these kinds of seasons" Miles still has his job (well, that and paying the highest price on the market for talent ), and he has those boys big enough to beat the shit out of any team that wants to go undersized and fast, because they are fast as a motherfucker too.

LSU has shitty QB's however, and while they have been able to make it work this year I would really love to see them go against an elite pro-style QB like Luck.

I wish I could feel that LSU would lose somewhere down the line, but it really has become a two team conference. I know Georgia, USCe and Arkansas are pretty good, but LSU and Alabama shit on them. Florida fell off the map quick.

 

[Shimmer.Fade]

I like the chances of both OU and OSU vs LSU. I don't think LSU can shut down either offense, and the defenses are good enough to give LSU's offense trouble (stuff the run, force turnovers). OSU's defense is weird but effective (highest number of forced turnovers I think, and their yards allowed are skewed because their offense scores so quick). OSU is very consistent, but if OU is playing their game I would take them against any team in the country even without Whaley and Broyles. Luckily we will get to see on Dec. 3 who deserves to go to the national championship game vs LSU considering LSU doesn't inexplicably lose to Arkansas =).

Ken I was just referring to the little humorous piece you posted. I was just reminding you SEC homers here that other conferences are extremely close in terms of skill (See Big 12 being ranked #1 most of the season), and when you take two mediocre football programs like A&M and Mizzou you are making the conference weaker.