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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Part 13: Don't you know? MXE comes from MXE-co

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Write a book vortech, we need all the good publicity we can get before the government tries to outlaw it. I'll pm you later, I have shit to do nw, but we need to talk!
 
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Either this compound is SERIOUSLY helping some people out who've had serious drug addiction/depression problems in the past, or all of us are just seriously delusional - but either way, I could never even ATTEMPT to deny the benefits that MXE has had on my life. The only downfall of it was it caused some distance between me and my Ex-Girlfriend, and it wasn't really even the drug that did it. My Ex was just a SUPER Jealous and Controlling person and viewed MXE as my "Secret Girlfriend". It was really just an absurd lack of Self Confidence on her part more than it was anything I was actually doing. I'm sorry, but I'm a grown ass man, and if I want to look at some Porn on occasion and watch some Titties bounce, I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to do so. My ex caught me doing said activity once when I was quite MXE'd up and decide the only way I would learn to stop being such a "Pervert" - which I would actually call being a perfectly normal and healthy 20 something Male on this planet - she walked in the door and in a fit of rage, attacked me and punched my in the fucking face and chest about 5 times. I'm sorry, but I don't think MXE or Porn were actually the problem in that relationship. I'm trying to live my life how I see fit, with my own Moral Compass of what's right and wrong, not what society deems fit or proper. As long as no other person is being hurt or infringed upon in any way by how you choose to color you existence on this planet - it's no ones fucking business what you decide to do with your own body. To be honest, it seems that most of the issues that I've had with other people over the topic of MXE - if they had anything negative to say, it was only that I like it a little too much, or use a little too much quantity - and even then, I still felt like they were just mad or jealous that they were too scared to implement the life changing and saving things that I've been able to do for myself with the use of this Incredible Psychedelic Tool - most of their complaints just seemed like Moot Points honestly. They were just pissed that I'm living life to it's fullest while their sitting around, not getting laid, not having fun, not meeting new people of all walks of life, sitting around being lazy stoners - while I'm out having the time of my fucking life. The sad thing is, I'm the kind of cat that all I want to do really is share and spread this knowledge and compound to those in need and suffering from the ailments of being a human being in this day and age. If a substance is Inspiring you to want to Learn, Study, Exercise, Eat Right, Live Right, Be Less of an Addict to evil substances that drag down the human spirit etc........I just cannot understand how this substance is doing anything but turning Negatives in my life into Positives. Maybe it's just pre-conditioning from society telling them that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that a drug can heal the ailments left by another drug. Well, I'm trying to prove to those people that it's more than possible, it's a fucking reality. Hate me, love me - just please feel something, because this very personal self exploration that some of us are engaging in with this compound could potentially save the life and mental state of MILLIONS now suffering in years to come. To me, coming from where I stand - I'm willing to take that personal risk for the betterment of the quality of daily life for human beings.
With my experience with this compound in all different dose ranges, I think that a normal person suffering from treatment resistant depression, someone without extensive Arylcyclohexylamine experiences - could literally get complete alleviation of their depression symptoms with a ONCE DAILY DOSE OF 5-10mgs of 3-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE taken ORALLY in the morning after breakfast. I highly doubt there would be ANY psychedelic effects, only a nice, positive mood lift - comparable to some folks multiple cups of coffee to get going in the morning, the only difference being - THIS COMPOUND IS ACTUALLY IN THE BRAIN FIXING THE BASE PROBLEMS OF DEPRESSION. MXE literally RE-WIRES the circuitry in your brain to make it work more EFFICIENTLY, and it re-activates path ways that may have been destroyed or shut off by Hard Drug use such as Methamphetamines, Alcohol, Cocaine, or Heavy Opiates. Call me a crazy fuck, call me a loser - I don't give a shit. Sit down with me and have an open minded conversation and I guarantee my life experiences with this compound and the human being that I've been able to transform into, would have BARELY been possible for me without the aid of this wonderful compound. I like to call it a Psychedelic Benzo for the healing of the Human Psyche. It does things that some human beings just CANNOT do on their own, ESPECIALLY ADDICTS. When I take MXE, the thought of the lifestyle I USED to live being a Heroin addict with a 1 - 1.5gram a day habit just to stay well MAKES ME SICK TO MY FUCKING STOMACH. The mere SIGHT or THOUGHT of Heroin makes me feel fucking ILL INSIDE. SERIOUSLY!! How could that be a bad thing even if it's the result of another separate drug re-teaching your brain to be disgusted by one of the most evil substances humanity has on hand??? My it's just my addict personality talking, but either way - this path is working, and until it stops working - I'm walking it.
And oh yeah, I've thought about writing a book about this whole experience as well - we should all work together and combine our experiences and make one complete book about every aspect and detail of this compound. The fact that more than one person is verifying this in their completely separate lives could even help add to the validity of what we're trying to do. If people are interested in being a part of said Movement, feel free to drop me a PM anytime. As a matter of fact, any one period who has questions about MXE, feel free to direct them this way. I love to talk about this compound and spread the knowledge to those in need. Have fun, stay safe, and ENJOY YOUR LIVES my friends................Mr. Meowfish OUT.
 
^ Your ex-gf punched you in the face when she discovered you jerking off to porn while on MXE?! Damn, that sucks.
 
Yeah she did, and unfortunately did the exact same thing on other multiple occasions when she found out that I was watching shit.....and the most lame part is, she watched porn on the regular herself...it just didn't matter what I did for her or how much I tried to show her how deeply I loved her and was attracted to her - she had convinced herself that if I looked at another woman, even on a computer screen, that it meant I wasn't as attracted to her as I said I was. It basically came down to her having SEVERE lack of self esteem issues and low self confidence, even though she frequently would try and fake like she had it. She was one of the MOST BEAUTIFUL women I've ever seen naked in my life, amazing in bed, so loving and compassionate - but she just could not learn to love herself no matter how much I loved her or tried to show her the way. She just wanted to control me and force me to think like her and I was NOT down for that. We eventually drifted apart and she cheated on me with her speed dealer, disappearing for days at a time, trying to tell me she was just having "innocent fun" when I knew for a fact what she was out there getting into. It's incredible the lies we can convince ourselves of to try and save the face of our ego....I will always love this woman with my whole heart, she was my best friend and a true soul mate. She taught me so much about life, but her own issues and her lack of want to deal with them ended up being our downfall. This is a sad story of the separation that can happen when love is not understanding and chooses to be selfish. For love to work, we all have to love with an Open Heart AND Open Mind. We're all perverted sexual beings deep down...............why try and front and act like we aren't. Find the right person who get's you and have some fucking fun........literally : ) - Live life to the fullest my friends, and if the path you're on feels right, don't let someone try and talk you out of it because of their OWN insecurities. It will just result in more pain than you could ever know, for BOTH of you. Move on or fix the problem. NEVER raise a fist to your fellow man or woman, it's just not necessary - that's what language is for................the construction of mutual human understanding. Much love for all you trippers trying to better the human psyche. WE ARE ALL CONNECTED and if you don't know that yet, you need to go back to a more basic Psychedelic Class.........Arylcyclohexylamines are for EXPERIENCED PSYCHONAUTS ONLY. PEACE - MR. Meowfish
 
>It doesn't have any opiate effects (doesn't relieve withdrawal),

Have to disagree with the second part of that. For myself and many others I've talked to online, MXE nearly completely relieves most symptoms of physical withdrawal, and also puts us in a great mood and lessens the anhedonia a lot. The lasting anti-depressant effects can also help with staying off of opiates.
 
Meowfish that porn story is funny, and really absurd how she reacted- Don't consider that a loss. I haven't been in a serious relationship in a couple years, but the ladies do love me as I do them. OK I'm gonna brag a second I got some good tail last night with an old friend :) sex at the end of a mex'd up night can be really great!
*Ahem* back to my point regarding how your ex saw MXE as your 'secret girlfriend'- In my circle of friends we use an inside reference for MXE by personifying her with the name 'Maxine'. In the movie 'Being John Malcovich', Maxine was the surreal object of desire, and with her cunning she capitalized on the John Malcovich portal by selling it as a way to step outside of your self and see life from a new fresh perspective. Sounds like MXE, no?
 
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Yeah, mxe can really change your connection to reality by allowing a disconnection. I think the only way to keep it around is to keep it underground. All it took in the UK was for the media to notice. If people can use mxe in a safe, private manner & not be irresponsible it might just be available a bit longer. I was relieved that it didn't get scheduled in the US along with the NBOME's that were scheduled yesterday. They could have easily tossed it in there. I'd say MXE kind of dodged a bullet there. There are always people waiting to tackle the next Boogie-man drug & we should try to stay off the radar.

In a perfect world a book about how to fix your brain with MXE would be a good idea. But for now we have BL to inform the seekers.
 
Man it's so weird - I'm even finding new people that understand where I'm coming from and the experiences that I have on here now. This compound does some kind of strange rewiring to your brain. It makes you way more aware of your body and helps you be aware of what it needs in multiple ways, from how you need to live your life to be successful and take care of yourself, to what you need to do to improve yourself as a human being for the benefit of those around you. Those are things that I don't think a whole lot of normal human beings think about, or maybe they do and I just needed this to be "normal", who the fuck knows. All I know is something bizarrely positive is going on with this compound and I'm glad to see that some other people are successfully implementing similar things without being considered crazy people. I keep what I do chill and low, but I do wish that I could like, show people the way to inner peace or something........that's fucking retarded but it's how I feel. Junkie to Philosopher, what the fuck?
 
I'm inclined to agree, to let it stay under the radar and not draw attention to it....UNTIL the government tries to ban it or smear it through the media as the next 'killer drug' that turns people into flesh eating zombies. When that happens, thats when we release a torrent of data speaking in defense of MXE as medicine.
 
I know that in FL, MXE got lumped into an emergency scheduling "bath salts" ban where they just listed as many RC's as they could find. The stupid bimbo attorney general Pam Bondi passed the emergency rule without even having to get a vote from the state legislature. Now I'm hoping that since many of the other things that the bill was aimed at banning have been scheduled federally, the emergency scheduling will expire in the state and mxe will slip through the cracks.

Pam Bondi looks like she would be a better porn star than someone who has the power to outlaw things that she likely knows absolutely nothing about.
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Boo hoo.. I'm down to about 400mgs of this wonderful substance.. right as shit was getting good.. =[
 
signed on this chem for therapy.

after 7 syringes got the I.M. down.
Boy what a quick and pleasant hole;
after lingering clean stimulation, lax'd muscles, a little tender leg, and needle fetish -.-
 
It's amazing how much this stuff can help and improve your social life. The past few days I've been much more open to doing things with people, starting conversations with colleagues at work who I would never previously talk to, and just have a much more relaxed, friendly vibe. It seems to give me a push. Kind of works in the background. Think it could be a pretty strong tool for those who suffer social anxiety.
 
Funkadelica, I absolutely agree with your statement about this compounds ability to help Socially Anxious people kind of learn how interact with other life forms by realizing the things you have in common with other humans as opposed to just focusing on how you're different from everyone else - which I'd wager to say that most of us Arylcyclohexylamine heads ARE quite different and unique, but what I'm beginning to realize is that, our strangeness is here for the benefit of everyone. I view this compound as my Philosophical Learning Tool, as well as my Depression/Psychiatric Medication. Being an Opiate addict for 5 years to the extent that I was left my brain extremely Bi-Polar, and Schizophrenic as well - to the point where I was straight up AFRAID of my fellow man if I was not on Heroin. MXE has helped me re-train my brain to realize that although I'm weird and not everyone is going to like or understand me, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT ARE GOING TO GET WHAT I'M ABOUT AND END UP LIKING ME THAN I THOUGHT when I was on Heroin. It wasn't ME that people didn't want to be around, IT WAS THE HEROIN! My perpetual Opiate use was due to the fact that, I felt I needed the Opiates to be this toned down, mellower version of myself - which isn't really the true me, and I felt that I NEEDED to do this to find my place in society, to find where I belong...........when in reality, I've now found where I belong thanks to MXE and it was not where I thought I was supposed to be AT ALL. All I ever needed to find Love and Acceptance from those around me was to Re-Discover who I TRULY AM and Discover exactly what benefits I have to offer those around me. There are PLENTY of hard working humans in this world - but one thing our society needs is a dose of FLAVOR, people not scared to live their life as they see fit and be WHO THEY TRULY ARE WITHOUT FEAR as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of our fellow humans. Our world is actually getting pretty fucking cool these days.....age old Philosophies that are out of date are FINALLY being discarded - and I WANT to be around to make sure they STAY THAT WAY. The human race could be something truly fucking AMAZING if we all learn how to use Information and Technology together to build NEW RELATIONSHIPS with one another, and it's all just starting to happen, I see it daily - and for me Personally, a large part of my desire to GIVE BACK to my fellow humans and to Society in general COMES FROM TAKING MXE. What people don't realize, and it's something I love to explain to my fellow drug takers who prefer the Rollier side of Psychededlics for their Understanding and Love Education about humanity - yeah, I said education, because I view EVERY Psychedelic as a Teaching Class in How the Fuck to be A Human Being. I've learned valuable lessons from MDMA, and MDA like compounds, but there is one thing that I HATE about them......The Happiness and Joy that I feel when I'm on them FEELS SO FAKE to me, it's like, I know that I feel SUPER good right then and want to be nice to everybody, but I'm one of those people that as soon as I come down from a Roll, I just want to be alone and go back to Withdrawing myself from society, which is the exact opposite of what I was trying to accomplish by taking the drug in the first place.
MXE is SOOOO different in this respect. When I'm on MXE and smiling and having a good time, it's because I'm GENUINELY HAPPY, it's not just some fake chemical response like how I feel on MDMA sometimes, but MXE is very loving feeling and at one with your fellow man how MDMA feels - it's just so much Cleaner feeling and more REAL if that makes sense. I could only use MXE 1-2 times a WEEK and still feel AMAZING EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE. Right now, I'm actually waiting to get back on - in the past 30 days, I've done around 6-7 grams of MXE, I haven't had any since Sunday afternoon - AND I'M STILL IN THE MOST AMAZING MOOD, living life EVERYDAY to the fullest, going out with friends, helping out my fellow humans however I can, and I'm still being able to stick to my Tapering of my Subutex which I've been trying to finally get off completely for the past 6 months. MXE has helped me to RE-TRAIN my brain to HATE fucking HEROIN and basically Opiates in general. I see what they TRULY do to the human spirit.....they're a fucking VACUUM that sucks the life force out of us, I don't give a fuck WHO YOU ARE. Have a couple of years run with Opiates and you'll be convinced you met what Christians describe as "The Devil".....I honestly can't think of a different way to describe Opiates - and I don't feel like this because I think they have no purpose. Just like I need MXE on a regular basis, some people NEED their Opiates just so they can get out of bed because their PHYSICAL body is so beat down - BUT, I know A LOT of people who use Opiates to try and alleviate MENTAL PAIN and Suffering. Well, that's where Opiates have NO PURPOSE, because all they do to the Human Spirit is make you think shit like "Oh, Why ME"??? Why do I have to be in so much Pain?? Why is MY life so bad?? When you Disassociate yourself from your EGO the way Arylcyclohexylamines do, you realize YOU AREN'T THE ONLY HUMAN ON THIS PLANET SUFFERING, and instead of just BITCHING about it like us cry baby ass humans DO from time to time - Dissociatives help you come up with Creative Ways to actually FIX YOUR PROBLEMS instead of just masking them over. I honestly think this compound may be the most useful Tool that human beings have in our Arsenal to teach the human brain and allow it to soak in WHAT WE REALLY ARE AND WHAT IT TRULY TAKES TO BE A SUCCESSFUL, GOOD HEARTED, WELL ROUNDED, person. Not every Heroin addict or Junkie is a bad person - they're just Beat the Fuck down and have had their spirit crushed by a combination of Society not accepting them OR wanting to help them get better, Family members hating on them because they aren't living life how they see fit, and the the Drug itself is doing it's own massive suction of Happiness and Naturally Occurring Dopey Feelings in the Brain. Hard drugs like Cocaine, Methamphetamine, and Heroin bring you one step closer to and prepared for DEATH on a daily basis, both Mentally, Physically, as well as Spiritually. They kill the Human inside of the Body long before the Body dies leaving behind a SHELL of the beauty that once was. I have used MXE to reverse this process.............you could say I'm using drugs to Personally Lobotomize my Brain the way I see fit............and it's not that I'm just choosing to believe whatever I want about life - there are INTERNAL TRUTHS about life that EVERY PERSON has inside of themselves, we just have to unlock them. MXE is that key to unlock the beauty of the person you could truly be one day with hard work, LOVE, and a diligent attitude to improve who and what you are for the benefit of the entire Human Race - because If I'm doing good in life...........I can HELP YOU FEEL BETTER AND DO BETTER as well, and once we're ALL doing good - TRUE PROGRESS for the human species can be made. Call me a dreamer, laugh at me and say I'm WAAAAAAYY too Optimistic, I don't give a fuck. If NO ONE on this planet believes that we can change the situation that we're all stuck living in currently NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE ON THIS PLANET - we will just be forever Stagnant as a Species, never growing up, never progressing to what we could TRULY be. Someone has to have hope and be making changes, so that maybe, I hope, one day we can all be happy life how I feel when I take MXE, and even for weeks after I discontinue my use. This compound saved my life, and I'm not scared to tell you all the Beauty that I've seen. Actually, I beg of every person who's intrigued by my words to ask me ANYTHING you want to know about this compound. I still tend to be a little bit lazy at times you could say.....god damn I like weed too much.........but I have all of this information to give to EVERYONE that has been handed down to me thru MXE use and abuse. I don't want anyone else to have to go wild on their body how I have if it's not necessary, so I would rather just relay the information to you if you don't want to do the research for yourself. Each of us in our personal lives have our OWN truths that we need to find about who we are and what our purpose is, but the basic truth of being Human, is surprising universal. You are me and I am you, and deep down we are all just Animals that want to be Loved, Appreciated, and Understood - sure there are more complex emotions beyond just those that we all want fulfilled, but those are the base Emotions we all need fulfilled to be able to start making personal progress and growth.
All right, I've typed enough craziness for now. Feel free to make fun and laugh your ass off at my "Crazy Person MXE Delusions", it doesn't bother me. You're getting entertained by my silly thoughts on life which brings you joy and laughter, which in turn makes me smile, and I get feel Inner Peace for the first time in many MANY years. Feels and Sounds like a fair trade to me........so love me, hate me, laugh at me - as long as I'm making you feel something and inspiring thought, I'm down as fuck. I love this thread and I'm here to stay. Have fun my friends - or have a laugh my Enemies - even though I'd never actually consider you my Enemies........you're just cats that don't understand me yet. Much love my fellow Humans. Sorry for the Wall O' Text. Peace - Mr. Meowfish
 
Paragraphs are meant to be separated when you start down a new train of thought or to separate different concepts. What I wrote is spaced and separated exactly how it should be with all associated information grouped together where it should be. I apologized for the wall of text, but I did have a lot to say. If the way it appears on the page takes away from the Value or Validity of what I have to say, I apologize for that - but I did use paragraphs, just not in the way that you deem paragraphs should be used. This is exactly what MXE has taught me - people are so about whats right and wrong in life, when in reality, there's not really much Wrong or Right - there's just a HUGE grey area where we all have to make our own Moral and Philosophical decisions about what we believe and why we believe it.
I'm sorry I gave you a huge wall of text - but if you read it before judging it by appearance, you would see that the Importance of what I had to say, FAR outweighs how unattractive my paragraphs are. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm being a dick - your comment was just taking away from the good vibes that I'm trying to spread to people. I know paragraphs matter - I'm a Writer of many different Varieties...............all I'm saying is Substance matters more than Appearance. Give me a Beautiful woman or a Passionate woman who's Average Looking......................I'll take the Passionate Woman EVERYTIME. Looks fade, Truth is Forever. Peace my MXE homies - Mr. Meowfish
 
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I'm a Writer of many different Varieties
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Not meant as a personal offense or anything, but I seriously hope you don't write all your stuff in the same fashion. Having great thoughts (and I'm sure content-wise your post is awesome) is one thing, typing it up in such a way that people able to read it is another. Personally I get intimidated when I see a huge wall of text, especially if there are words or complete sentences written in full caps. Even my physics textbooks are way easier to read, even though its contents are probably more difficult.

Back on topic: wish I had some MXE, but I'm really out of a good source. I wish there was some place where vendor-discussions were allowed, as it would make everyone's life much easier. Heck, there's even HR in it!
 
Chikkenstorm - No worries yo, I appreciate Constructive Critique. I don't really do my writing on the Computer, and only recently have I really started posting on BL again. I'm more of a Lurker who likes to Interject where it seems fit. Every person has their own style of writing both in Form and Content, this is mine and I'll rep that shit til I'm dead. Most writing that I do, whether it's Journals, Poetry, Copying Information, Writing a Story - I always write it with an Ink Pen or A Marker on Physical Paper in Real Life. I've had too many Computers crash unexpectedly and lost "pounds" of information that was very important to me.
I still really appreciate the Critique tho. What I have to talk about is VERY important to me, and I want to be able to put it in an Easy To Digest form so that it can be accessible to EVERYONE. Keep the thoughts coming, I'm an information Sponge. I value each and everyone's opinion, so feel free to drop it. I want this thread to be pure freedom for people to express themselves. That's how any forum should be. Anyways, I'm just blabbing on now and getting lost in thought. Time for a dutch and some Breakfast. Peace - Meowfish out
 
To describe how MXE can help users climb out of deep addictions and depression, we need to look at how its actions help recondition the hard wiring of the brain. Additionally, it seems MXE-assisted therapy may recondition the wiring faster and more completely than traditional therapy alone. Faster means higher chance of successful recovery.

Drugs like alcohol and opiates, over time, effectively ruin the brain's natural reward system by activating these centers quite directly. It's a hack on the reward system that bypasses the traditional signal pathways. Unfortunately, cheating has a price. Over time the user does less and less things that once activated the brain's intrinsic rewards, and the user becomes increasingly focused on the object of their addiction while their relationships and moral, physical, mental and spiritual health all fall away. To me, the Spirit is the source of all energy; it is the spark that ignites our internal fire. These drugs flatten the Spirit to one dimension while the traditional channels of Spirit, like love, atrophy from neglect. What's the point of doing positive things to feel better when doing a bunch of dope can just tune it all out without the hassle?

On the other hand, MXE has a different way of hacking the brain. Instead of dampening the fire, it is a catalyst for the fire. When used intentionally, MXE can help the user tune back in to life. Any kind of positive activity that is normally enjoyed by people seems to be greatly enhanced by MXE's actions. Pharmacologically, this is in part due to the reuptake inhibition of dopamine and serotonin. MXE doesn't directly release dopamine and serotonin, but if those neurotransmitters are activated, then the feeling of reward is felt more firmly. This is important because an addiction-addled brain doesn't normally get near the amount of reward anymore compared to the level of the drug-use reward (their source channels have atrophied). In a way, it is like turning up the volume of traditional rewards to a level that can compete with the reward of their addiction. Another aspect of this effect is that negative feelings can be turned down in volume. I've found that dissociatives allow the consciousness to intentionally tune-out the noise of unwanted signals like pain. That extra bandwidth can then be used to more purely focus on the desired signals. Over repeated use these reinforcements can train the brain's reward system to return to a healthier state, and these changes in lifestyle carry over long after the drug is used to turn it on.

The final result of this therapy is that intrinsically motivated activity- learning new information, expressing love and kindness, exercise and engagement, fostering relationships and connection with other life, putting things in order, eating healthier, pondering novel thoughts etc.- all light up the reward system in ways that were dimmed from prolonged abuse of opiates or alcohol. These results may even extend to treating the pain, isolation and depression caused by any sort of previous trauma outside of drug addictions.

What do y'all think of this 'theory'? Does it resonate with your own experience? I speak this information through personal experience and observing the experience of people around me and online, and I share it because it may have huge HR implications if it is as valid as I propose it to be. I'm gonna go out on a limb and agree with Mr. Meowfish that it may be the most powerful tool available for certain people who can benefit from it. It is a key to unlock the sacred inside of us, to find our center and our own unique place in this world. Finally, no I'm not on MXE nor was I when I wrote this.
 
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