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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

crOOk said:
Never had any soreness whatsoever from 2-Oxo-PCE. In fact, I can't even figure out which site I used when I come back. Been wondering more than once whether or not I had more than one IV injection. Shit has to be really unhealthy for such a low dose to cause pain. I would assume it's impurities.
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I've noticed the same. No tracks, even.
 
vostochnik said:
I've noticed the same. No tracks, even.
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Part of why this substance is so amazing to me is the fact that it requires a low dosage while hitting you like a train when IV'ed and being really smooth on the muscle from where it also elicits rapid action.
 
Favorite disso combo so far :

- low hole dose 2-Oxo-PCE at t+2h after snorting 10mg 3-Meo-PCE.

It seems low doses of 2-Oxo-PCE make light trips (with psychelics or dissos) MUCH more interesting without increasing the side effects to much
 
Ziiirp said:
Favorite disso combo so far :

- low hole dose 2-Oxo-PCE at t+2h after snorting 10mg 3-Meo-PCE.

It seems low doses of 2-Oxo-PCE make light trips (with psychelics or dissos) MUCH more interesting without increasing the side effects to much
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I would agree with this but I like IM 15mg eticyclidone repeated, and sublingual 15mg 3-meo-PCE.

Has anyone else noticed a headache after this combo.
 
I only take O-PCE and MXE rectally. I typically use 10-20mg O-PCE rectally and 20-60mg MXE. O-PCE dissolves readily in a boit of water, more readily soluble than MXE.

To me O-PCE is the only current dissociative that in my view can serve as a valid MXE substitute. It is rougher, more potent and a bit longer lasting. On a 2 day session I typically use either 250mg O-PCE as rectal 15-20mg doses or 500mg MXE as rectal 30mg doses. I consider both binge amounts to be roughly equivalent. I would never use 500mg O-PCE in 2 days but I have used 1gr MXE in 2 days. I find a 2 day binge ideal for these substances, you dose from noon to noon then drift off from non to midnight, at wghich point despite residual stimulation fatigue wins it and sleep takes hold.
 
This has been my fave between 3 meo pcp/pce and this. I think instead of 3 ho pce (reviews seem like a more expensive 3 meo pcp) I will just get more of this.

It really seemed to fuck with my UT system the most out of any disso I tried. So much so that dosing two days in a row wighout Olive Leaf Extract leaves me with urinary difficulties that ruin the trip.
 
yepyepwoah said:
It really seemed to fuck with my UT system the most out of any disso I tried. So much so that dosing two days in a row wighout Olive Leaf Extract leaves me with urinary difficulties that ruin the trip.
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God I am so glad I've never had those issues. However after years of ketamine use my bladder holds 350ml urine these days.
 
I get insane urinary retention from this one. Like up to a day later.

I also have a medical condition that makes me prone to it but with O-PCE it is still of note because it is so strong.
 
Recently I only snorted the doses, nevertheless had great results (for me) and no after effects, despite maybe insomnia and light mania the following days.

The strongest urinary difficulties I noticed with 2-Oxo-PCM (and maybe 3-Ho-PCE, but that it is a weird one anyway IMHO).
 
The only time I've noticed any urinary woes at all was with 2f-dck, which had me urinating very frequently.
 
I really only can praise that substance right now, although in the beginning I talked it down (I was expecting a 3-Meo-PCP substitute).

It is incredible how fast it puts you in a hole and how well the short term after effects (insomnia, detachement, mania, minor concentration problems) can be controlled and even be enjoyable, because you can choose to a certain extend, how the reconditioning of your rational mind will be implemented.

With 2-Oxo-PCM for example the after effects take much longer (compared to the peak) and the benefits are basically non existent, because there was not really a reprogramming setting. Just a little hedonistic mind trip.

Not saying that 2-Oxo-PCE is the answer to all problems, but it can get really addictive to have a 100% proof non-monoamine wasting substance available, that provides a guaranteed escape from egocentric perception and associative thinking.

TLDR : I did not like it at first but now it is one of my most respected psychedelic tools.
 
What is the physical appearance of this stuff? Would it look like little beige pebbles? I expected a pure white powder, crystalline/sugar-ish like 3-meo-pcp. Anyone ever received some quantity of 2-oxo-pce that was smallish pebble sized semi transparent beige pieces? Almost like molly without any of the pink hue. Any input would be appreciated!
 
crOOk said:
God I am so glad I've never had those issues. However after years of ketamine use my bladder holds 350ml urine these days.
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Ive had. fuckdd UTI system since birth I think. I remember being 14 in school with a full bladder and not being able to pee. First discovered lean over and rest on wall trick. I think a lot has to do with relaxation, but something ib me was weird/narrow (cue Hank Hill urethre reference) way before I fucked with drugs

Mxe outta all dissos was easiest on me. K bit worse tied with 3 meo pcp (days on end use). Then 3 meo pce. Not a superb drug and more problem causing UT wise.

2 oxo pce for whatever the fuck reason hates me. About this time last year there are probablg post from me on tge same subject. After the second day in a row it was hard to pee MDMA style during the trip then after not much better.

Spent a few days reading and trying shit. Olive Leaf extract is supposed to be good for persistent UTIS. Somsthing about penetrating biofilm in bladder and killingbacteria. Supposed to be taken with food then two hours later take charcoal capsules to help soak up whatever bacteria is released etc. All I know is 2-3 caps extract can make me feel sick as fuck (with a wide open urinary stream) but the charcoal helps about 95%. Just a PSA for any lurkers out there. People wanna be ashamed fo talk about body healgh, but fuck it. We need to help each other because...

Yes I have gone to DRs. Multiple. It feels like it burns when I pee sometimes, and sometimes its hard to pee. Yes I had an STD test last month. What? No UTIS? You will send iff some bloodwork. Oh, nothings wrong with me.

Evenfually some specialist told me I had mild prostatis (aka annoying shit a large amount of men get/have Nd cant do shit about...supposedly) and a veracoscle (sp) on my left nut, which is also common. I told my brother and described the pain and the lok on his face... Hahhaa "Man i have that same shit".

A bunch of money, run around and bullshit for "Yeah youve got problems, cant really do shit about em, yeah I know your young lifes hard. Want another prostate exam?" Now many a prostate rub like the PROs know how to do and we talkin...

Just put it in Health Books. "Common embarasing shit you wont wanna get checked out but a lot of people get"

Sooo yah thats my health psa courtesy of ketamine for you blokes
 
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crOOk said:
I actually just read a study that says otherwise. Scientists have found out that 2-Oxo-PCE is in fact the answer to all of humanity's problems.
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Crowdfund a movie about this. I want to be in the first 15 lines in the credits.
 
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