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Drugs like LSD allow you to think without some of the usual restraints that result from natural social conditioning. I don't think there's much more to it than that.
PsyGhost said:So, if a person takes some drugs, for example, LSD, is influenced by the experience in some way that it takes full precidence in his or her musical direction and composes some song because of it, and you then listen to that song and enjoy it so much that you believe you have taken some message or value from it, then are you not only reacting indirectly to a psychoactive experience from someone else?
I might obtain some message or thought or value or idea from watching a sunset or sitting in a contemplative mood deep in a forest. The environment around me is stimulating my thoughts, with no need of direct chemical interaction, and yet it is easy to say that I can be influenced by my surroundings. If so, direct chemical interaction is even more obvious as having the ability to give messages or influence thoughts.
the seeker said:im not saying drugs can't influence you. i'm saying the idea that they have a specific message they are designed to impart is unfounded.
Ravr said:What about the empathy/ love experienced by most acid users after tripping?
What about the egoism experienced by cocaine users?
Wouldn't those experiences influence who you are as a person?
yeah, its the same message found in everything.the seeker said:i said "im not saying drugs can't influence you."
if you see a building and you get a certain feeling when you look at that building, does that mean the building has a message it wishes to impart to all mankind?
absolutely nothing. we create what ever message we want, from something we created.the seeker said:and that would be?
the seeker said:no its not the same because a books art and music are all designed. i can write a peice of music with the intent to express something (although some would argue against the idea that music is a form of communication because it can be interpretated so differently). however, when you start to see messages in random chemicals, that is nearing schizophrenia.
Xorkoth said:It always seems that everyone is so polarized in these arguments. Either drugs are sentient lifeforms with intelligence and purpose, or they're just things and if you think that there's any sort of greater meaning to them, you're crazy.