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Esoteric [Ego-Death Subthread] Why is it a good thing?

Man, I'm getting frustrated that so many people assume ego-death means TRIPPING BALLS.


IT DOES NOT.

It's a friggin transcendental experience that sometimes just happens........

You can't make it happen - the absolute most you can possibly do is let it happen.


EGO DEATH IS NOT BEING FUCKED UP ON DRUGS

Sorry for all the SHOUTING, but I feel that it's a very important point, something I feel strongly about.



Respect and Peace to you all
 
^Agreed.

Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.

And in the world of cyber-forums, misplaced assumptions so often from people failing to seek out the necessary background information before posting.
 
yeah, i didn't want to say it not to pass for a psychedelics snob, but if you "was actually able to talk to people at the party for the most part.", that was definitely not ego death
 
After Ego-Death occures you tend to realise that you are not your body but a conciosnous which controls it. alot of people dont seem to understand this.
Ayahuasca will make you understand..........
 
vegan said:
yeah, i didn't want to say it not to pass for a psychedelics snob, but if you "was actually able to talk to people at the party for the most part.", that was definitely not ego death
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I found after I expereince ego loss, I am much more open, and boundary free, then if I havn't had ego loss. So he could be right.
 
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For me, ego loss is defined by the experience of existance without any ref back to any memories etc that are specific to me. It's like the loss of subjective experience of conciousness - no personal 'filters' distorting and giving more weight to some things than others because of past experience. It all just flows into your memory in the raw state.
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Perfectly put, that's exactly how it is for me as well. 40mg of 2c-e has given me the most powerful ego loss experience so far.

Partial ego loss just makes me feel strange and hollow, like I could shoot myself in head and nothing would happen.
 
I found after I expereince ego loss, I am much more open, and boundary free, then if I havn't had ego loss. So he could be right
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maybe i'm misunderstanding his post, but i think he's saying that he was talking to people while experiencing ego loss. which is contradictory

i have no doubt that ego loss can make you more social/etc. after the experience
 
I'm curious. At what estimated dose of LSD in micrograms is one most likely to experience ego death? Or this not an answerable question?
 
Well you could take heaps and still never have an experience anything like it, acid is just the catalyst. So it all happens within your mind & your heart, not your brain, its about letting your inner self break through, the energy flow and being in one with everything.

I've had a mild ego death experience on only one tab, the transition was very smooth, and the calm picturest environment mattered just as much as the acid did.......It was absolutley beautifull!! Words can not explain.
 
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^^^Not answerable, I think. For me only ketamine and dmt/5meo-dmt seem to lead to ego death in a predictable way at a certain dose. Of course, I haven't tried everything, and it may be comepletly different for you.
 
I have not experienced hallucagenics enough yet to answer this question but some relevant information others might like.


When you say being outside and looking in, I achieve this with my meditation. I have been meditating for around 4 years and for only a few months have I been able to achieve this.

As one said "LSD is only a catalyst."


Also one of my sister's friend's is a hypnotist and after her many years of studying this she is able to recreationaly achieve ego loss.



Now to say I'm only 15 I will most likely be asked as to why I meditate so I shall answer the question now...

When I was 8 years old I was face to face with death, I was trapped under a floor that had colapsed above breaking 2 of my ribs and severing my lower arm (was held on by tendons and I have my original arm still just with a major loss of nerves) and after some time I felt I had a choice to stay or to go...
With my upbringing (which is probaly why I'm here today) I had to stay and I knew my life was to change forever, so I had decieded to stay in this 'life' and it was as if I had some super natural power.

I had gained strength beyong my dreams to get myself out but all along I wasn't in control of my body, I was in what I think to be the 'ego lossed' state where I was looking in on myself and had the choice to let my body live or to die.


Since then I have been to phychologists and one pychologist (some one who specialises in 'tripping' and has experienced it many times his-self to help others) suggested I meditate so I did...If you want to spend years of searching for your inner self by going to your outer self then meditation is for you.



Now I'm currently looking for about 10grams of dried cubes to do over about 2-3 days but I'm in a way worried that I will experience that near death experience in my trip but in another way thats why I'm doing it, to control this experience is like karma - words won't do any justice so I'll leave it at that.



This thread has helped me alot to know where to look...credits to every one.



Thanks
 
^ wow, your only 15, lucky :)

just don't stop meditating, you could probably go far in this life because of your near death experience and all.

if i were you i would wait until at least my 20's before getting into psychedelics. somehow i just think that would be more beneficial to you, you would probably have a greater understanding of the experience and could integrate it into your daily life much more profoundly. but who am i to say what is most beneficial, just thoughts.
 
I see what you mean but I've heard from people that taking halucagenics at about 25+ like when you've settled into life - slowing down, more used to your surroundings and your interpretation of normle is some what fixed.

That taking halucagenics then can be really bad (not that it can't be any way) as in you can't cope with the change and is all a bit sudden, where as if your young and your minds still developing your more likely to accept it into yourself.
 
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