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Hope I can find some decent powder in New Mexico whatever kind it is,white ,browinsh(as long as it's not "powder" made from mixing cut with tar)..I hope I don't have to resort to doing tar,I actually have never done tar,only seen others do it..Where I live In the South Central US we get tar and good powder from NJ,NY,Chicago etc...and I always buy powder and it's always good,since I buy usually 5 grams or more at once..anyway hope If I only find some tar In New Mexico that it will be decent shit,and I will have to try to smoke it like I have seen others do a few times...
 
It might make a bit of financial sense, but in the end, its really not worth it. The tar we have is so disgusting and impure that a large part of me would rather be sick, really.

Im not going to go into where the scene is at all, tha breaks a lot of rules here, that's something you're going to have to find out for yourself, but Tarzana is far from it lololol.

You are about 2 minutes from me though, so hi neighbor!! :)
 
Go ask someone for some chiva nearer to the city ,or ask some friends that do drugs,if you have any that do any drugs other than pills,like cocaine or something if they know wher eto get any chiva or tar or whatever they might now it as...best thing would be to find some pills,although tar is cheap there in LA area,I'm not from there but have family in LA,and San Diego and up in Sacremento,etc...and they don't do heroin but they can get it in all places,although they are in the citys themselves mainly so thats easier than being way out...
 
good info

Hello to all. First post. long time lurker. strong supporter of harm reduction and supporter of freedom of information. to those that want to quit opiates should know that THC from cannabis has been proven to decrease opiate/morphine dependency in rats...

link: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090706090440.htm



good thread by the way... time to shed some light on the situation....Dope is on the west is controlled primarily by the mexicans and mexican americans...not racist but that's the truth of the situation..


alrighty jumping right in....go on and youtube some blues tunes while you are reading because you're probably in the middle like me(no pin dot tonight)...not low, not high but in the middle but that's okay you stay positive and be good to others on your way. going to start with types from worst to best seen from Beach cities to LA...Cali-forn-ia hey hey..a better question for this thread should be..who has my dope? different orgs do different things...The pure Chiva is controlled by the group I will call the mexican-mexicans and is most often distributed to whites by mexican american families and or gangs. From mules on the street to car delivery...

1. "goop, shit, sprackle, pop, fuck" - worst cut to hell beater bags, seen only in trash bags... dummie bag category. little to no dope at all..no smell, extremely sticky, if you put white sugar and melt it in a pan you get the same consistency. usually 1g quantities...so cheap and sounds great but don't fall for it... sold by bunk ass hoes..


2. "rat turds, beebs, loons, Bees, beezies" type 1 - comes in light mullti colored party balloons. sold in .1 to .2 usually sold in "packs". they looks like a little hot dog with sparkles in it..hard dope..breaks in half pieces easily. This is the cut to hell tar with what Al believes to be a caffeine / crap combo. these are cheap, they smoke like shit but they get the job done if you like to get half way off. Would not recommend anyone shoot this type but people do. This stuff is the crack of heroin no doubt because you only get high for half an hour and then you are at it again..usually sold lower down in the chain -- mexican american independent retail level to whites from the coast cities. This is like the Abe Lincoln crack vial equivalent to the H world


3. " Loons, bee's" type 2 -- comes in light to dark mullti colored party balloons. These are hard balls of black tar. sold in .1 to .2 bags. also seen in packs.. Different colors are used for regular customers(bigger bags) or bigger buyers. This stuff smells like what one would imagine burning tar to smell like. Al suspects a different type of cut for who ever runs these. Was told once that it might be boot leather polish that is cooked down until hard..could use some clarification on that..these things run well on foil, gets ya floored/loaded for hours but tastes like hell. Al has seen these pushed by low level retail hustlers trying to make some money usually Mexican Americans who buy the real good tar from the mexican-mexicans and cut it down for shop. would not advise to shoot or smoke really...


4." Loons, bee's" type 3 -- this is the tar that looks like the powder and does actually oxidize to tar after being warm..this is just cut tar but it can be decent to strong. Not the best but good..comes in multi colored loons to grocery bags. smokes well, smells like good tar but with a hint of burnt sugar. the more cut it is usually means that this was handed down once again..

5. "Tar, Fire, pin dot, Junk, Smack, El Chiva, the black" - comes in a variety of cuts as seen above..but this is what we can actually call decent tar..it's usually hard, it smells strong of AA(vinegar), with some stickyness to it. Smokes well, gets one pin dot for hours. Very strong. Usually in grocery bags seen these from SD all the way up to Oregon. Usually the Mexican Mexicans are the ones with this tar..they usually sell only to other mexicans/mexican-americans for security who then in turn sell to the white folk. If one finds a Mexican-Mexican junkie..good luck if you are white and don't speak spanish..you may be able to get in this network, Al found somebody like this and was in a network for a minute... in bags it can be sold in grocery bags..can be cheap but can be as much as a Benjamin or more for a gram depending on many factors..on the street in .1 street bags to 1 gram...if you get into the right network you can buy in quantity or in weight which will lead one to the purer tar..not pure dope but closer to the uncut tar...as good and as strong as it is, Al would not advise anyone shoot this stuff..come on be real..it's a tar and an acid..doesn't mix well with veins yo. smoke it sure, rail/bang no unless you want a one way ticket. Most will smoke it but there are those that bang it..note to the newb thinking they want to seek this out, if you get a stick up your a$$ about doing the big H..seek out some pharmaceutical grade diamorph or something clean..this is no joke..this stuff will keep you coming back for more harder than any other opiate Al has seen...this cocktail of opiates and I do say cocktail because Tar is a mixture of various forms of H all having their own effects on their own but are now compounded. It gets one very high, and you can see how easy it is to become strung out after being high all day from morning to morning. Even good Tar, good as it can be, is a dirty high, it doesn't feel anything like pure morphine. Everyone that Al has met that jumped from the foil to needle spun out of control very quickly. The needle seems to do double time on the rational of the user.

Here is a strange peek into a world right here in our states most are oblivious to...
Some orgs will use "mules"..these are immigrants with little to no english that are either bought or actually want to come to the states...they in turn work of their "debt" for freedom to the org by running weight on the street level..very dangerous work..these mules usually sell the match head size bags but can get you in touch with someone above them if they like you. Most will want you to keep coming back so they get paid but some get rewards for bringing a bigger buyer to the leader with a phone.


6. "brown sugar, the real, H" - comes in balloons to dime bags..this is a powder ..it does not oxidize to tar when heated. taste is more bitter than sweet but not acidic/vinegar tasting as tar. potency is strong. This stuff isn't as wide spread as the Tar which makes me believe it's different groups moving this higher grade. Harder to find but very strong. Can't say for sure who moves this stuff, most likely gangs or independent movers. One shouldn't hold your breathe trying to find this one. This is water soluble and could be injected a lot more safely than tar given the caution taken and if it wasn't cut with something dangerous. If you get into a network suggestion would be to keep the connect.


7. "the white, big H, China" - this is dope that has been brought in from somewhere else. this is not on the same circuit as the mexican heroin. you will find this stuff usually by independents, Rich business types, Porn kings ect. people with connections to those worlds on a national/international scale. You won't find this on the streets, usually bought in quantity. What's easier to find is pharma dope..like diamorph or water soluble morphine...opana is nice too...


Al has not been doing dope or opiates for awhile..it's easy to find down here but it's such a hassle and the people(poor junkies equally annoying as junkies with money) that you need to go through and just the chase is dull to me now...with the threats of being ripped off, beat up, robbed, of worse arrested it just kills it for me.

The mexican americans who buy the stuff wholesale and step on it seriously don't give a rats ass about their customers. Customer service can be shitty to sub par but at the end of the day they don't care about you getting high. White kids usually get the most stomped on shit, they are generally considered the people not in the know who can be taken advantage of for profit. Plus they figure that if you are a desperate suburb junkie who is trying to make an economic transition to the big H. they see you as money bags and you best expect that tax. If you want fire on the west coast it wouldn't hurt to know how to speak some spanish.


In Al's honest opinion, these substances needs to be legalized and have quality regulated. The schools and cities need to benefit from the profits. Methadone is a program that keeps people in the state of zombie even harder but it's the same shit with a different name on it. What this all comes down to is personal freedom. Government wants that authority to be able to say yes put this into your body but not this..at this point man has no control of his own being and that's where I think this deep seated desperation to escape comes from.its so strong people shoot them selves up with acid in attempts to find sanctuary in the temporary relief..its truly crazy..before witnessing the dope world first hand, wouldn't have believed it if you told me .. The States could easily have morphine clinics that are state regulated and the communities can benefit from not only lack of crime but also the feeling that we don't persecute those that don't do what the rest of us do..so long as they don't hurt anyone else...The war on drugs has created more harm than the drug itself now what's that say?? message to the white parents and any cops trolling the board...if you're kids are scoring dope on the streets and are more afraid of what the cops and the system could/will do to them than the dealers/drug...what does this mean? lets get real.


I'm sitting her discussing the harmful effects the war on drugs has really caused...Tar shouldn't even be around at all. We are bickering over the purity of an already shitty product..even the pure is pure shit... To give you an equivalent to what the drug war has done..google "polish heroin"...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_heroin... this was a form of heroin that was widely adopted in Poland during the cold war...black tar, it's impurities, it's causalities, it's very being is a product of an unjust and unnecessary war.. it's this on going oppression on the minds of the people on all fronts that is the true enemy...cops think the only way they can justify there budgets is more crime..which is true..less crime = less cops...but that's not a very healthy business model is it? that's the model of a sick system.. a system that needs help..it's the sign of a system that is afraid of freedom, it needs to cage freedom. Can't give people real jobs so lets force them into "illegal" ones with inflated markets...not smart...the kids know this and that's the trip about this whole thing..


here is a win-win...the drugs get legalized..they are taxed and regulated..crime goes down...the drugs get produced at home so we have more domestic yobs. and we realize this pyramid of supporting one side while fighting the other is just non sense. it creates violence and an obvious black mark on society as a whole...western world show us progress.. cheers

Al smokes weed, he does not have to chase or go to far for his smoke either.
be good to others. :)
 
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^DXM decreases opioid dependency as well...mj is not alone in that regard. Also DXM tends to do a better job of it, and at sub-trip doses, too.

Also that was an informative first post but I've never heard most of those slang terms used at all.
 
I have some second cousins in san Diego that are half white/half mexican american and they have family down in Mexico ,and I have actually gone to Mexico with them about 5 years ago and we went to a poppy plantation in Mexico (I am the only white man to see this shit there) since I am a relative.They were making both tar and mexican brown powder down there,as well as keeping some opium to smoke.I got to sample the brown powder with my 2nd cousins and there at the source it was fire ass shit...anyway they can get (my 2nd cosuins) some fire brown powder,and some pretty pure tar,although I do not live in Cali so I only see them when I visit every year or so,and they have some good brown powder for me to do.I always bring some fire powder from back east with me and let them snort/shoot some...lol...good times,if you are related to people in the deep end of the game so to speak ...but thats all i am gonna say about it...shhhh...lol
 
so true
this past late july/early august things got very hot on the Row, one morning at 3:00am cops were posted at street corners near the spot and patrols were on the prowl, very paranoid to be there but it was a Saturday night/morning after all, however, just 18-24 months ago it was easy to find, now the Row seems a lost playground for Tar. 2008 just might have been the last good year for Tar on the Row. Am fortunate not to live there anymore but anyone else seen what I seen over the Summer?

google

"Heroin ring that supplied O.C. broken up"

these guys were out of LA but supplied to OC

first link oc register dot com


anywhere the suburb kids go is gonna get hot
 
from what i believe this mexican brown (in cali)is nothing but tr cut so bad it becomes a powder cause you almost always here how weak it is compared to tar


No, thats not true. Tar thats cut is usually more sticky and clumpy and darker because its being cut with things like brown sugar, coffee, or some thing called choching it where the take like a coke/pepsi in the cane and then heat it until all the liquid is evaperated and you have a sticky sludge, sometimes its cut like that. Dope that is powdwer has a more sandy texture, it can be worse as good or better than tar.
 
LA/OC link, never seen 1800 balloons of tar before




http://www.ocregister.com/news/county-258680-heroin-orange.html?pic=12


and then this, the largest Tar bust in California history $10,000,000 worth found on one man in Anaheim, State Attorney office said:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lopez-90698-hernandez-heroin.html



The first link...those dudes are a perfect example of this type of dope...

2. "rat turds, beebs, loons, Bees, beezies" type 1 - comes in light mullti colored party balloons. sold in .1 to .2 usually sold in "packs". they looks like a little hot dog with sparkles in it..hard dope..breaks in half pieces easily. This is the cut to hell tar with what Al believes to be a caffeine / crap combo. these are cheap, they smoke like shit but they get the job done if you like to get half way off. Would not recommend anyone shoot this type but people do. This stuff is the crack of heroin no doubt because you only get high for half an hour and then you are at it again..usually sold lower down in the chain -- mexican american independent retail level to whites from the coast cities. This is like the Abe Lincoln crack vial equivalent to the H world


These guys sold in 13 packs and were pretty cheap but quality was dirt. Too many college kids were getting followed back to OC..stupid kids got these guys busted.


The link #2 definitly is someone closer to the connections in Mexico. That stuff looks straight from the source. The cops caught this guy coming out of a Target and he confessed..insane.
 
6. "brown sugar, the real, H" - comes in balloons to dime bags..this is a powder ..it does not oxidize to tar when heated. taste is more bitter than sweet but not acidic/vinegar tasting as tar. potency is strong. This stuff isn't as wide spread as the Tar which makes me believe it's different groups moving this higher grade. Harder to find but very strong. Can't say for sure who moves this stuff, most likely gangs or independent movers. One shouldn't hold your breathe trying to find this one. This is water soluble and could be injected a lot more safely than tar given the caution taken and if it wasn't cut with something dangerous. If you get into a network suggestion would be to keep the connect.
That is Mexican Brown like I have seen.It was big in the 80's all over the USA.It is still sold in ARIZ,NM, And Kansas City and South Chicago,although by the time that shit gets to chicago it's cut to hell...lol,they used to get it "mexican mud" in the 80's and is/was produced in Sinaloa state in Mexico by the Herrera Family of 2,000+ members who supplied Chicago at one time with 80+% of it's heroin back in the early to mid 80's...Chicago had 80% of it's powder from Mexico and people now probably would not believe it..The Herrera people are mostly dead or retired but there are other places in Mexico that make brown powder ,but which group or cartel I cannot say...
 
How do you know he confessed?

google is your friend
One of the local papers had a detailed story and the officers broke it down on how they kind of knew what he was up to. Supposedly dude started removing hidden compartments in his drive way and stashed the shit up in his garage before going to a target store..narcotics rolled up on him coming out of the store and asked him what he was doing with his car. dude responded "bad things". cops asked "what's in the garage" and dude told them "negra". That's what the story said even though it could be bullshit. But dude probably felt caught anyways as he was getting sloppy unloading in plain view. fucking stupid even drug users have more common sense. this may seem like a lot of dope but there are plenty more like him in the area.

google 'Gerardo Medina Hernandez heroin' and find the story link, i dont have enough posts yet to post a link
 
Read in a paper recently about a dude in Pasdena I think that was busted with 200 grams of high purity white powder heroin.apparently it is going around in some places in the LA area,outside of LA itself though ,more in the outlying counties..strange and about time someone started selling the white powder,if dude had 200 grams when busted then his connection must have a lot of white powder ,since I heard it was around in other places beside Pasadena,etc..
 
Read in a paper recently about a dude in Pasdena I think that was busted with 200 grams of high purity white powder heroin.apparently it is going around in some places in the LA area,outside of LA itself though ,more in the outlying counties..strange and about time someone started selling the white powder,if dude had 200 grams when busted then his connection must have a lot of white powder ,since I heard it was around in other places beside Pasadena,etc..

im sure the white is in california but this supply is reserved for the few.




what a find indeed.

most will have to settle for scripts or tar
 
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I hear that white heroin is becomin ever so slowly available in the LA area , very slowly it seems but still.Guess it is like Pulp Fiction where the chosen few get access to the super high grade powder heroin although being from a state where good powder is available I can't see anyone paying the pulp fiction prices for Heroin,although if you are rich as hell I suppose it would be no big deal to do so...crazy stuff ,also Afhani Heroin ,number 3 I suppose is supposedly in LA also for less than a Franklin a gram...dunno about that,my family in LA have not seen any Afghani #3 or white powder there either one,but have gotten some pretty fire brown powder mexican stuff(not made from tar,the real and rare brown powder from Mexico)..
 
2. "rat turds, beebs, loons, Bees, beezies" type 1 - comes in light mullti colored party balloons. sold in .1 to .2 usually sold in "packs". they looks like a little hot dog with sparkles in it..hard dope..breaks in half pieces easily. This is the cut to hell tar with what Al believes to be a caffeine / crap combo. these are cheap, they smoke like shit but they get the job done if you like to get half way off. Would not recommend anyone shoot this type but people do. This stuff is the crack of heroin no doubt because you only get high for half an hour and then you are at it again..usually sold lower down in the chain -- mexican american independent retail level to whites from the coast cities. This is like the Abe Lincoln crack vial equivalent to the H world
I have found this to be more or less true, but I'm wondering, why would the high from some dope last longer than that of a different type of dope? Regardless of the cut, or potency, if you do equivalent amounts (so the heroin in each amount is the same) why would the high from one be shorter than another?
 
Rad thread. Thank you.
This right here is pretty much what motivated me to get an account.
Way to do yr homework, my fellow SoCal babies. It's cool to see how many of us are actually in this area. (mine being 90028)..
Be safe out there & yep, going downtown (or Koreatown) is askin for trouble. Also heard about problems south of the Vermont exit (101fwy).
Be good if ya gotta.
x
 
I live right by the San Fernando Valley and have encountered also about three or four kinds of dope.
One kind usually comes in little squares of plastic and then tied off in double balloons. This kind is usually a lighter brown in color, soft, and malleable. (usually decent... perhaps even "Primo" *wink* )

Then... there's the connect that anyone who lives in the 818 or near it has gone through, because he practically advertises his number on billboards (not literally, but the equivalent). If you call a .8 a "bear" and have to park waiting with a crowd of other cars to cop then you know what I'm talking about.

Another kind is black, rock hard, a little flaky, and cooks up smelling a bit sweet and little black chunks tend to appear in the liquid. (shit.)
Another kind is just powder. All brown powder, which of course makes it easy to cut. This brown powder has been both some of the best and some of the worst I've had. When it hits the water, you can immediately see the real dope start to dissolve while the rest needs a lot of heat to begin to break down. Depending how much real shit is in there it can be pretty potent. A lot of people breathe on it to get it to clump together into the more familiar hunk of tar. Depending on how cut it is, it will either come together quickly or take forever.

And then there's what I get now... even the best source I've ever had before this, I'd only rate a 9. I rate my current source easily a 10 or an 11. His stuff is either the powder, or the solid -- in appearance it's not immediately different from anyone else's stuff... but... In my opinion, it's as good as tar gets. I would love to know if tar gets better than this, but over the last 4 years I haven't encountered anything better or anyone that can provide it as consistently. I mean... before he settled on whatever source he has now, he got bad stuf a few times and actually took returns. I've never had a source take returns and exchanges before... anyway, this isn't the "rate-your-source" thread... (is there one?) but yeah. That's what I've encountered around here.
 
I just moved to LA and am having a hell of a time finding anything. But then again I have only been looking in S. LA and N. OC. I gotta venture out but I'm feeling a little to sick.
 
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