I read a few reports on erowid of ppl getting recreational effects...
if the best ya gunna feel is at 1-2mg im assuming ya mean that's the strongest of its effects?
why do they have 8mg tablets is 1-2mg is the strongest?
quoted from wikipedia
Buprenorphine is also used recreationally, typically by opioid users, often by insufflation. Recreational users of Suboxone who crush the tablet and snort it report a euphoric rush similar to other opioids in addition to a slight "upper"-like effect. Those already using buprenorphine/Suboxone for opioid addiction therapy find that insufflation is only slightly, if any stronger than taking the pill sublingually, although it may have a quicker onset. Those taking it for addiction therapy also report that obtaining euphoria is virtually impossible after the first few doses. Many recreational users also report withdrawal symptoms. Due to the high potency of tablet forms of buprenorphine, only a small amount of the drug need be ingested to achieve the desired effects.
so the first few doses ya can get an effect from i guess untill it saturates ya receptors?
I'll do some reading on google on how bupe works
i did get some relaxation from bupe though it was kinda sedating. I liked it.
more from wiki
Even a partial agonist at the µ-opioid receptor (like buprenophine) releases serotonin and dopamine in the CNS, but to a lesser degree than full agonists do. This slight release of serotonin and dopamine may contribute to the anti-depressant properties of buprenorphine, especially those with a pre-existing mental disorder.
so should i just throw these pills away because im not addicted to opiates?
io dont think so im sure they made me a little relaxed for 1/2hr
I'll go do some reading now on why it helps with w/d.
i sorta get it. if a normal person takes an antipyshotic it makes them feel like shit. but if someone with an inbalance of dopamine takes it, than it makes them feel normal?
if someone who doesnt take opaites takes 1-2mg than its kinda recreational but if they take more it doesnt do anything where to someone quitting opiates it corrects an inbalance?
well i should have googles it in the first place.
http://www.naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm?ID=8
Opioids attach to receptors in the brain, with three main effects; reduced respiration, euphoria, decreased pain. The more opioids ingested the more of an effect. The process of opioids binding to the opioid receptors can be thought of as a mechanical union, the better the fit the more the opioid effect. Buprenorphine is different. It too binds to the receptors, however, without a perfect fit. As a result the Buprenorphine tends to occupy the receptors without all of the opioid effects. The receptor is tricked into thinking it has been satisfied with opioids without producing strong feelings of euphoria, and without causing significant respiratory depression. This, in turn, prevents that receptor from joining with full opioids; therefore if the patient uses heroin or painkillers, they are unlikely to experience additional effect. Buprenorphine tends to stay with the receptors, blocking them, much longer then opioids do. This stickiness, is what makes Buprenorphine last so long, up to 3 days.
I'll look up norbupe now cuz apparently that's slightly recreational. but ive fucked it up for myself now as my receptors will be to saturated for me to take 1-2mg.
how many days should a wait to try 1-2mg?
geez its gunna be hard breaking up a 8mg pill. if u take 1-2mg how long does it saturate ya receptors. could i take that dose every day and get a weak opiate effect?
how much codeine would taking 1-2mg of bupe be equal too recreationall?
wouild it be as good as 200mg?
im not talking about affinity. im talking about recreationally cuz i looked at the opiate conversion & according to that id be high as a kite.