I was wondering if something I recently received had any recreational potential or potential as an adjunct painkiller (never tried K so I hope so). It's a compound made from ketamine and gel, no lidocaine or any of the other usual ingredients you'd find in a compound like this. It's a 250gram tube of gel that's 10% ketamine (so 25grams of ketamine hcl!!!!) It's still in Rx paper form right now because I'm looking for a pharmacy that can prepare it for me + I don't want to spend the money before I know it's worth a shit. To be honest I'm also skeptical of its analgesic properties (what it was prescribed for) when used topically I don't think it has the stuff in the gel that makes transdermal absorption possible, so I don't understand how it'd work. But for a doc to prescribe a large amount of a schedule III drug they must have a good reason.
Before I start trying to do the math necessary to calculate a dose, I wanted to see if it was even possible to use. So is it (it's just inactive gel nothing else)? If the gel's a problem can I possibly do an extraction? Is the gel safe to consume (more specifically orally or sublingually)? I definitely want to use it for recreational porpuses a few times because I've never tried it and love hallucinogens, but I truly am in horrible pain that my pain medicine (Subutex, the only pain med my dr isn't too afraid to give for chronic pain) is no longer able to control at times. So since I can't take a different opioid (how lucky for me
) when the pain gets unbearable, I thought using a sub/disassociative dose of oral ketamine adjunct to the buprenorphine might boost the effects enough to provide sufficient analgesia. I know that in most cases when ketamine is used along with opioids; they use short acting opioids but there are exceptions. I realize that the increased analgesia would likely also mean increased respiratory depression, but considering I take such a low dose (a maximum of 2mg 3x a day, but usually only take 3.5mg or 4mg) it was recently increased from 2mg 2x daily to 2mg 3x daily. I should be safe as long as I don't take too much K and skip my benzos and muscle relaxers. If I want to use a large recreational amount I'll try to avoid taking anything for as long as possible which due to my level of pain probably won't be very long but I'll try to wait as long as I can. I've took DXM with everything I'm on several times and was fine.
Oh I almost forgot it's HCL. Idk if that matters at all but I thought I should mention it just in case.
If the gel isn't a problem my plan was to calculate the dosage (for this method probably a similar dose to snorting) and put the gel under my tongue and let the K absorb sublingually. But after reading reports of people trying it (with success most of the time) and then regretting it due to the taste I came up with an alternate plan to take it orally, (this'll also probably be my method for using the adjunct doses for pain) if possible using capsules to hold the gel so I wouldn't taste it. I thought sublingual and oral would be best because I definitely don't want to inject any of the gel into a muscle much less my bloodstream, even if I could get the gel in a dry powdery form that could be snorted I wouldn't won't to try it because I assume the powder would turn into gel again when exposed to moisture and clog my sinuses, and I don't want to use it rectally because it just sounds unpleasant, but if it the absolute last resort I probably would.
Even though it's probably a pipe dream for me to get to experience the wonders of ketamine (because if the gel isn't usable which it probably isn't I won't have any other sources. Not asking for any just stating a fact) I still want to know what it's like. I know it's a dissociative like DXM (I compare it to DXM rather than the many others because I've done DXM many times and know it) but I heard the highs are different. I'm familiar with ego death which I know K is notorious for causing, it happened to me several times on DXM and once on nothing but strong weed I smoked too much of with no tolerance. I also experienced the DXM equivalent of a K-hole, it's hard to explain, like floating through space and time but it's so much you don't remember it all then you get spit out dazed and confused. So anyway you know I'm sort experienced in these kinda trips not to mention the ones on dph and datura (not fun, but I kept it together fairly well). I love hallucinogens (not datura or dph) they're the most fun imo (opiates are still my DOC) but they also teach you a lot. So my questions about ketamine are...
-Should I start a little low to get used to the drug. Or should I try for the K-hole my first time
-Could it make me become violent, like PCP supposedly does?
-If I have any when I try it (been out for a week or so
) should I smoke weed during the trip to make it stronger like DXM?
Thats pretty much everything I really hope someone can help.
