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Dissociatives Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread 4: I was filled with the Holey Spirit

Well, I guess it depends of what the gel is? (what the hell!). If it´s edible, then you have 25gr of edible ket. For someone with no tolerance is a lot of ket. And if the gel is non edible, seems like extracting it could be quite a work, probably impossible.

So is there a way for you to know what are the exact compounds of the gel?
 
Hexagon Sun said:
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So is there a way for you to know what are the exact compounds of the gel?
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All I know is ketamine hcl is the only active ingredient. I won't know what the base (inactive stuff) is made of. If it turns out it's unsafe to consume i hope its something that can be extracted in some way
 
If the gel IS edible, then you can use it orally. Orally, ketamine requires a higher dose, but also lasts longer. I've heard some say they like the effects better that way, and I've heard some say they like it less. I've never tried it personally. Either way, if it's edible I'd work your way up. Ketamine and DXM are both dissociatives but they're also quite different. I find ketamine very serene, and very dissociating.
 
I was only able to get a sample tube so far. The formula is...

Ketamine hydrochloride USP: 6,900mg
Pluronic F127 : 60ml
distilled water: 6ml
lecithin-isopropyl palmitate: 13ml

Anyone have any idea if that stuff would be safe orally? Or if not rectally *cringe*?

UPDATE: I know it's not the most responsible thing to do, considering I haven't finished my research on the unknown chemicals but I can't resist. I'm going to get a pea sized amount and hold it under my tongue being careful to not swallow any saliva. I'll let everyone know if it works or not.

UPDATE 2: After like 10 more seconds of thought I realized how dumb that'd be and decided just to go on a DXM trip instead lol
 
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I didn't post this as an update because my other post had 2 or maybe more + it's a different day hopefully nobody gets pissed

After doing research I found that lecithin is safe to consume but I don't think isopropyl palmitate is. I was afraid that this damn ingredient would ruin it but after some more reading I found out isopropyl palmitate is insoluble in water....but Ketamine (obviously) is! The other ingredient Pluronic F127 is another name for Poloxamer 407, which is commonly found in mouthwash and toothpaste among other things. I'm going to put 1.5ml of gel in a container add water stir let it sit like 10mins then pour through a coffee filter or something similar. Then hold the ketamine water solution in my mouth and let it absorb sublingually (that should be safe considering the questionable ingredient is used in toothpaste and mouthwash)

Is their a certain amount of time I should wait to try it since I did DXM last night?
 
CousinCocaine said:
I didn't post this as an update because my other post had 2 or maybe more + it's a different day hopefully nobody gets pissed

After doing research I found that lecithin is safe to consume but I don't think isopropyl palmitate is. I was afraid that this damn ingredient would ruin it but after some more reading I found out isopropyl palmitate is insoluble in water....but Ketamine (obviously) is! The other ingredient Pluronic F127 is another name for Poloxamer 407, which is commonly found in mouthwash and toothpaste among other things. I'm going to put 1.5ml of gel in a container add water stir let it sit like 10mins then pour through a coffee filter or something similar. Then hold the ketamine water solution in my mouth and let it absorb sublingually (that should be safe considering the questionable ingredient is used in toothpaste and mouthwash)

Is their a certain amount of time I should wait to try it since I did DXM last night?
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As is Fluoride, Titanium Dioxide, and other incredibly disagreeable substances to human biological systems. Don't believe something is safe just because it's in a consumer product. Most lotions and suncreens have large amount of endocrine system disrupting substances in them, and can in fact cause illness with chronic use.

This is not a statement on the safety of said substance, I've done no research on Poloxamer 407/Pluronic F127.

Edit: Found this: http://dangersofmouthwash.weebly.com/poloxamer-407.html
 
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Someone on here (maybe sekio?) once said that fluoride can't pass through the mucous membranes of the mouth. Not sure if it's true or not but I remember it being said by one of our prominent chemist members.
 
I actually looked into the P 407 more (after I used it once) and I don't understand the science but it said it was almost completely non soluble in water because of a chain of lipids prevented it. So I've used it several times without any issue after putting in water then filtering. The filter captures a layer of some type of slime.

Absolutely love the ketamine tho. Did a couple high doses didn't quite get to the k hole unfortunately.

UPDATE: I just thought of another possible way of consuming it and would like to know if any of you think it would work. After being extracted and left in water could I put the water containing it into an empty nose spray container? I ask because using it nasally would save me quite a bit, because using it orally requires so much more than it would nasally. Plus it's be extremely convenient.
 
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after having sampled and/ or daily-habit style abused numerous dissociative drugs, something about ketamine calls upon my soul; been awhile, but i long for my victoria lily to send its fragrant putrid molecules to my olfactory organs once more, signalling the time for a night upon which it encloses its strange and cozy petals around my body.

anyone else consider the k-hole an ultimate sweet-spot, no matter what other loves come and go?
 
No action on ket lately or what? I was finally able to procure some high quality racemic K. It’s been so long since I’ve used it and last time it was in liquid form so I would usually resort to IM or IV. I’ve been having a hard time getting to that perfect spot intranasally. I’m not a fan of snorting large amounts of powders but at least it’s pretty smooth. I’m going to try 75mg bumps every 20-30 min and see what happens.

Well last night was a success. I don’t think I holed out or anything but after 200mg or so I attained a pleasant state full of insightful contemplation.
 
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First time I really did ketamine, i had no clue what I was doing, i had bought a gram and poured a nice line out and sniffed it. before i know it my world was fucking upside down, i couldn't move. it was such a trippy experience.
 
I remember when I first REALLY did ketamine, after only having done bumps at festivals. I sat down, at home and anorted 3 huge lines. The vibrations.. never felt anything like that anytime recently
 
IMO ket is a bit of oldie and surpassed molecule. It´s expensive, super short acting and bladder damaging. You can pretty much get better effects profile in the new coming dissos and get one better taylored to your taste.

It has a notable place in history but it´s logical that is losing popularity respect the new ones
 
I’m in the US and have been having a hard time finding a solid RC Dissociative source, but I discovered a relatively cheap line on powdered K so thats where I’ve been at these days. I’m super bummed to find out that the bladder damage can be that extensive.

Can ketamine be used to alleviate rebound anxiety induced by benzos or anxiety in general?
 
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Can ketamine be used to alleviate rebound anxiety induced by benzos or anxiety in general?
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They use it in a clinical setting treating various conditions of the mind. So it could Be possible. Doubt it would Be anything K-Hole inducing though.
 
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They use it in a clinical setting treating various conditions of the mind. So it could Be possible. Doubt it would Be anything K-Hole inducing though.
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That was my line of thinking. My gabaergic use has slightly escalated. I’ve been pretty good at keeping my benzo use to once a week or so but I just got some somas and devoured quite a few of them. As of now I’m feeling quite agitated and achy. I’m going to go ahead and try a modest line of ket and see where it goes.

About 120mg in and it definitely helped alleviate the symptoms of rebound anxiety. There’s this sense of peace.

Not a fan of the constant drip. Wish I had ampules to IM.
 
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IMO ket is a bit of oldie and surpassed molecule. It´s expensive, super short acting and bladder damaging. You can pretty much get better effects profile in the new coming dissos and get one better taylored to your taste.

It has a notable place in history but it´s logical that is losing popularity respect the new ones
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No way. I've used a lot of RC dissociatives, starting with MXE, and K will never be surpassed so long as it's anti-depressant action is unmatched. Not even MXE had the anti-depressant action of K, for me, despite my overall greater enjoyment of MXE at medium and high doses.
 
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