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Chicago Heroin v. No Touching of the Hair or Face

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Man I tapered down to 2 mg of methadone and being on it for like the forth time it was still 2 weeks of hell. How is the methadone vs suboxone withdrawal??? Well just copped he said they r good and big but dubs he has been serving lately I was like r u serious these r just big sawbucks... Hoping stuff is good and bears on Sunday!!!!!
 
Man I tapered down to 2 mg of methadone and being on it for like the forth time it was still 2 weeks of hell. How is the methadone vs suboxone withdrawal??? Well just copped he said they r good and big but dubs he has been serving lately I was like r u serious these r just big sawbucks... Hoping stuff is good and bears on Sunday!!!!!

Suboxone withdrawal sucks, but nowhere near as bad as kicking methadone.
 
Shit, I went up to 70mg.. I'm done though, not going up anymore. Might even go back down to 65 or 60.. gotta admit, I was kinda chasing a buzz but there really isn't one to be had.. It does help so much with cravings though, this is the best chance I've had at getting off dope in forever.. I've literally had one thought of doing dope in the last week.

Definiteiy going to heed your guys advice though and leave my dose at 70, if not go down, because I plan to taper off after maybe 8 months-a year.. However, I'm prepared to go longer if when I'm tapering down I feel like I'm just gonna go back to dope. But one thing is certain, I'm not gonna be on this stuff for 5+ years or anything like that.

If you really wanna quit though and it is the mental aspect that causes you to relapse and you feel like you're pretty much stuck with the intense cravings forever.. give methadone a try.. That's how I was for the last year or so and, again, this was probably the best decision I've ever made. Subs didn't work, traditional rehab didn't/will never work for me, this is definitely what I was looking for.

Enough about this shit though, I'll let you people get back to nodding.

Also, Fantom13, you need to go hit the block man, I seriously wouldn't put up with your guy's bullshit. he's been jerking you around for at least a year now.. Go out and find a good spot.. they are out there man.. I just wouldn't put up with that shit if I were you.
 
gl opiate guy.... me personally would take the lowest amount possible .. i would find an amount where i felt just a little shitty and even cut that down 10mg.. and get off that shit as fast as you can.. the thing is if you want to quit your gonna have to pay the piper one way or another.. there is no magic way out.. as for the cravings every single junky/ ex user say they really never go away.. this is the part i'm having a hard time with atthemoment.. as like now while i 'm typing this i'm high as fck. i have no physical dependency rite now but i sure do have one mentally.

was thinking about seeing or checking out if there was any type of recovering groups/ meeting out there that are any good...

has anyone ever been to one in the chicago-land that was any good? i was at one yrs ago with my ex gf. but that shit was too ghetto for my taste if anyone knows please tell or pm me thanks
 
gl opiate guy.... me personally would take the lowest amount possible .. i would find an amount where i felt just a little shitty and even cut that down 10mg.. and get off that shit as fast as you can.. the thing is if you want to quit your gonna have to pay the piper one way or another.. there is no magic way out.. as for the cravings every single junky/ ex user say they really never go away.. this is the part i'm having a hard time with atthemoment.. as like now while i 'm typing this i'm high as fck. i have no physical dependency rite now but i sure do have one mentally.

was thinking about seeing or checking out if there was any type of recovering groups/ meeting out there that are any good...

has anyone ever been to one in the chicago-land that was any good? i was at one yrs ago with my ex gf. but that shit was too ghetto for my taste if anyone knows please tell or pm me thanks
Yeah man, I fucking hate NA/AA meetings but I checked out the SMART recovery meetings on the northside a few times and they were pretty cool. Bring $10 to buy their handbook and read through it.. it all resonated with me.. Its about taking responsibility for yourself.. Not that you have some disease/you are powerless/you need "God" to get you out of it. Its a rational form of recovery based on current science and psychology. Anyways yeah, good SMART recovery meetings chicago and you should find the list.. They meet at this retirement community on the northside on Tues and Thurs nights.. Theres a couple others on the other days of the week at various locations.

Now that I'm on methadone I haven't gone to any of these meetings and probably won't.. Things are going damn well thanks to the done.
 
^just try to stay away from the crack. That is what 2 of my friends turned too when they got on methadone. There was a lot of people at the clinic I went to that smoked crack. I'm not saying don't do it but don't let it replace dope because you will be a lot worse off.
 
got high last night and thought i posted, guess not..

no getting high today even though i feel liketit hte way the bears lost, but tomorrow wil be the day
 
Haha Chinky I think a lot of us must be just like that; I blame sports teams for that kind of thing too...

Bears win: "The Bears won! Nice! Let's (get high) celebrate"

Bears lose: "The Bears lost! Fuck. Oh well, the least we can do is treat ourselves to a fix then to deal with the results of the game."


How is everyone on Team Nod doing tonight? Can we get some community weekend recaps if anyone had anything exciting happen?
 
^^oh and 100% TRUTH..i used to do the same thing with weed, no matter what it was i was doing, going to the mall ot grocery store, basically i wouldnt leave the house with out rolling a blunt for the car ride..forevery and anyreason, and i honestly never got into a car crash , actually i take that back i did hit one person but it was in the mall and she slammed on her brakes and i was too close anf dhit her while smoking but thre was no damge to either car and e just parted ways, and i got pulled over twice while in the process ogf smoking and each time they didnt even bring it up or let alone serach me. like the one time we where 1/3 threw the blunt and i was able to flick it out of the passenger window with my friend in the seat while makeing a turn to get seperation between us and we just so happened to be on a road that bordered a lake and the wind was just blowing off the lake in the right direction and he didnt menttion anything.

the one thing i realized on that traffic stop is how i can understand how poeple who run from police in cars or book on foot cause the cop took my license and went back to his car and then wrote out the tickets but aat that time he didnt mention he was giving me tickets , he just told me to "hold tite", so i just sat there and he took forever, im talkin 30mins to write a no front license plate and a seatbelt ticket and it freaked me out cause the whole time i thought he was calling for backup cause he was a twig pig and not a real cop and i was in an unincorporated area so it would take a long time for backup to get there, and of course i had like 10grams on me, pipe, scale and money and my buddy had weed that he just bought and a pipe and i was fraking ou thinking im going to jail, these are my last minutes as a current free man and this went on for like 20-30min(prolly 10 but it just seemed longer :) )..eityher way diring that time i moved the weed from my pocket to the center console then by my ass and then finally in the toe of my shoe cause i had to hide it. but it was the sitting ther watching the guy in my rear veiw and wondering what hew waws doing, i figured he was running my name and seeing my misty priors for weed and only weed and whatever else and i told my friend i really get and understand how and why people run in these situations cause i feel like doing it right now myself, its like a cha nce for freedom or sut there basically turning yourseldf over...and then he comes back hands me 2 tickets and says have a good day..i then proceded to go back to my buddies and we smoked 2 moire blunts in his driveway instaed of driving around laughing about what just happened lol

the other time was i got caught on a speeding trap on my way to work on a sidestreet to avoid traffic and i had just put the pipe away cause i smoked it on my way there about 10mins before and he came up and asked what it was i was doing and i explained i was running late for work and thatthe traffic on the one street was te reason and the cop let me slide with a seat belt ticket and that time again i had like a half zone and scale and pipe (i never left the house with out my scale and half oz of weed)of course 95% of the timne it was in the trunk in a little hiding spot but a few time slike in my old envoy i didnt have a trunk..and now thati htink about it, it did happen a few more time..like the time iw as on my way to buy techn9ne tickets and i was going to buy them betwenn classes while in college and so i went to go buy that for the show that was theat night and i realize the venue didnt open for another 30-40min or something like that and so i oulled over to pop the trunk and get my weed and scale out to weigh something to taake a ride and smoke a blunt and kill time and it just so happened i passeda cop who had someone else pulled over and i passed that and a mile down the road i pull into a american salse store and park in a spot and go to pop the trunk and as i look in the mirror i see a squad car in my rearview and he was stopped and getting out, so i step out actinlike i didnt see him and then stiopped and then he got out and told me to sit back down and im like WTF? and he proceeds to ask me where im going and what im doing and i told mhim about the tickets and he just gqave me seat belt ticket cause that was the reason he stopped me and i couldnt belifve it cause i literally passed him 2mins before and for him to see me with no seatbelt and all that bull shit is just insa.e

i had got 3-4 seat belt tickets all in that same city over like 6months cause they were really cracking down on it and were pulling people over just for the seat belt thng and i paid the first couple bnut the last one i told them to "come get me" i was sick of givng them money, if i dont want to wear a seatbelt and possibly kill myself in an accident then so be it, that my perrogitive so i didnt pay and tthey sent me bunch of shit about getting booted if i dont pay but only in that city and they "may be taking it to the necxt step meanign court and i was ok with that and of course i called their bluff and nothing happened with it.now i havent been pulled over in that city since and i really havent done much shopping in that mall, so fuck them..
 
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Probably has at minimum of around a few weeks left. Chop um when it starts to frost/freeze at night.
 
sorry ufor the rambling im high as yyou all should know now...

but i got a question for anyone who has grown weed. i know i can look this up and i prolly will anyways but is there a such thing as leaving the buds on the plant for too long? ive grown before but only once have i been able to fully harvest everything. the plants either got stolen or males came up or my uncle being broke and instead of letting the plant grow he would clip off buds and smoke it bit by bit and by the time the plant was ready to pull he already smoked half the plant..

i ask cause this year was a bad year, i didnt germinate the seeds and just threw them in the ground and out of about 20-30seeds only 2 came up and out of luck and good grace with mpother nature they both just happened to be female, so ive been litteraly babying them and told my uncle if he clips it before its done ill kill him and well the one plant was put into the ground early april and the other one was about 2-3weeks after that. so these plants have bee nin the ground about 6 months now and ive been wanting to pull them cause im afraid but my uncle said "no keep waiting, keep waiting" and then today he said "stop watering it let it start to die on its own so the plant will push all the nutrients and everything to its buds in effort to keep them alive as long as possbile and by doing thiis he said the buds will get super fat and full of resin and tc". now im not saying i dont belive him cause hes been growing weed since before i was born. its just they have been in the ground for so long and so close to be done that im just super paranoid they are gonna come up missi ng and i would freak cause ive watered and fed them everyday maybe missed one day but they never went more then 2 day with out getting water, so these are my babies and to see it go from seed and now the one plant stands a good 7ft+ high and he other is like 6 1/2 ft. that kinda makes me proud cause even though ive grown weed before i never personally took the care all by myself like i did these. normally i had my uncle or just let it grow in the woods.

i can tell both plants are different types and the smaller one i can tell is gonna be real good. wit hthe bigger one being good but not as good. these seeds were just grown from random seeds found in everything i smoked over the year, from kush to reggie they all were put into one medicine bottle, but the oine plant is definetly some stinky dank while the other will be some real good mids/reggie, basically if the mexicans grew juat one plant with the seeds they use and not thousands, so the care is there..i already picked a low hanging bud and dried it over a week and it smokes pretty damn good all i need is one bowl, i just cant wait until i dry it all real good and cure it.

any one got any thoguths, or you just gonna tell me to take it to CD or make a thread, mayeb that wouldnt be abad idea actually
 
so where has everyone been?? has there been spome fire dope i dont know about or sometheng and everyone is dead? if so then thats not fair, i want some!

*team nod assemble*
 
if you can, like if your job doesnt drop you randomly for whatever reason, then smoke some weed to help with the WDs. when im sick and feeling like shit not wanting to do anything, weed is the only thing that can somewhat satisfy me. smoking a little weed is whats gonna hepl you et threw the hard parts of the wd AND YOU MORE THEN LIKELY WILL laugh while doing it..thers nothing worse then waking up ass early, sick and cant fall back to sleep but smoke a bowl and if it doedsnt put you back to sleep it wil at least make take your mind off of feeling like shit and thats all you can reall ask for. especially people who use subs and claim they dont work, they work just fine. its just youre expecting somesort of buzz or something and thats not what it will do, but add a little bud to it and then it will definetly help.

i always said if i had to choose4 one drug to use for the rest of my life and after choosing the one drug, i can never go back and without a doubt i wuld choose weed over anything else everytime. weed to me isnt a drug, its a way of life. i cant understand how alcohol is perfectly legal but marijuana isnt, it makes no sense. Illinois just passed its medical marijuana law but you have to basically be dieing if cancer for them to let you use it medically, they arent gonna allow you to grow it yourself and yet there will only be one dispensary per county or smetjhing stupid like that and yet colorado and washington are gonna allow it to be sold and used like alcohol is, hell even less strict then alcohol xause they are saying above the age of 18, not 21.

the one thing that might change all this is the fact that the giovernment said it will not interfer and come after people if under state law marijuana is legal even though federally it is still illegal. so people and states who are reluctant to pass mmj are gonna have a pass from the feds and with the feds doing this, why not fully legalize, tax and create some jobs off of it?...heres the link from yesterday http://abcnews.go.com/US/marijuana-ruling-signal-end-prohibition-pot/story?id=20118755&page=2 ..what i dont like is why they wont just come on out and legalize it. its well know obama was a huge pothead growing up in hawaii and i really dont doubt that he doesnt step into some private office and fires up a blunt cause hes stressing over syria and plus he has to turn his lights on "oval office kush" is real picky to grown and you got to take care of it cause normally its an outdoor strain in hawaii, so growing it indoors isnt the best for it

i have 2 monster plants this year and i can tell imma end up with damn neatr a qp off of the one plant. the cola alone i wouldnt doubt is gonna end up being a OZ by itself but every ince or 2 you an see the buds already growing and with the plant being 7ft tall already with out the cola, its gonna end up being almost 8ft vy the time i pull it. the other plant doesnt look as nice and big cause its a month ot so younger thyen he other but it should be just as good. the one big guy though i cant believe how big it is and how much bud its gonna give me. as long as i can take care of it and fry and cure it the right way, i doubt i will have to buy any weed for a good 6months if not more. i just wish i had more growing, this will be the one and only time i dont sprout the seeds and ,ale sure they are good before putting them in the ground cause i didnt do it this year and had to have thrown at least 50seeds out there and only 2 came up. so im starting to ssave seeds right now for next year and come this time next year i hope to have 15-20plants and not just 2. now the only thibng is i dont know hat the quality will be cause really the seeds are just a mix of everything, regs, dank, kush every and any seed i got/found over a couple months, so who knows how good it will be, plus they are growing outsideso theres not much i can really do aside from watering it and maybe thrwoiugn the bat guano on it
You need to be careful about what you say because there are times when subs will definitely not work. For me it takes a min of two to three days for subs to work properly. I've taken subs and made WD worse and taken subs where it barely helps. A lot depends on use, history, amounts, ROA. Be careful with those nasty subs! I feel like its fifty fifty chance I'll get PWD or relief.
 
You need to be careful about what you say because there are times when subs will definitely not work. For me it takes a min of two to three days for subs to work properly. I've taken subs and made WD worse and taken subs where it barely helps. A lot depends on use, history, amounts, ROA. Be careful with those nasty subs! I feel like its fifty fifty chance I'll get PWD or relief.

Yeah, that's very true man. They used to work great for me and work that way for a lot of people in the beginning... but after a while transitioning onto them becomes hell, especially if you're coming off a large habit you've had for a while.
 
Anyone else go to the Yellow Bag spot?

Shits been fire this week, just copped me a 13 bag jab.

TEAM NOD ASSEMBLE
 
Hey everyone, I'm new to this site and thread, although i've read it here and there through the years.. (usually when i'm trying to find a good spot to cop... although most of the times i didn't find my answer).. anyways i wanted to add to my experience on suboxone.. It kept me clean for 8 months over the past 5 years of this bullshit.. in other words it is the longest i've been clean in 5 years.. now i'm on methadone everyday, but still use everyday.. it's just ridiculous.. suboxone makes it impossible to get high for 24 hours and it worked cause during the beginning of the day when i felt more positive about being clean i would take it and even if the cravings persisted later in the day as they usually do, i couldn't get high even if i wanted to.. let me just say to you don't ever get on methadone.. maybe i shouldn't say that cause for everyone it is different... but for me the only benefit for staying on it is that it holds me longer and i don't have to spend every 6 hours trying to get high.. i believe methadone is definitely the most painless method of withdrawal.. but the clinics that give it out so easily are not in anyone's best interest unless you aren't ready to quit using.. anyways enough about that.. this is just my experience.. lately i been getting the black spades with staples.. they are good but a pain in the ass to draw up.. the bags are fat though and last much longer.. just wish they would have less cut in in.. still 1 bag draws up pretty dark.. I'm use to doing three of whatever else.. these i'm good with 1-one in a half..... i heard something about other stuff, just afraid to shop around and get some crap.. i really just wish i could find someone who would sell me grams.. but whatever take care y'all
 
Man I missed in my arm and it is the worst pain... It's been since Friday and still super sore, red and very painful. About 2 years ago I missed in my foot and sane thing... Wish I could snort dope instead of shooting it. The sad life of a drug addict.
 
retiring for team nod one more time ... hopefully for good this time..... almost 72 hrs in with no medication ... thing this might be it this time!.. if i don't i'm gonna lose my gf and the fact i almost died again cause i shoot up drunk again i think is enough for me to quit this time.. think i finally had enough i'm too old for this shit!
 
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