Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 25B-NBOMe (NBOMe-2C-B) Thread

[IamMe90]

Isn't sublingal the ROA/buccal? Says at the top....

Woopz! Didn't read carefully enough!

 

[Help?!?!]

Woopz! Didn't read carefully enough!

Tee hee! You drunken slag......... Who I am I to talk though.........

 

[marika]

So, about 1 week ago I dosed 2mg sublingually. I know this was probably a very high dose and very stupid of me, however it was my third time in the past month and 1mg wasn't doing much for me anymore.
Not even 20 minutes in, the rainbow trails started to appear. I went and laid in bed, and for the whole first hour I was too overwhelmed to even move. For some reason, the darker it was, the stronger the visuals. So I went under my covers which was kind of stupid since I was already having trouble remembering how to breathe. If anything went wrong, it definitely would've been me doing something stupid to myself, not directly ODing. My thoughts were extremely repetitive and would cut off. I tried writing notes on my iPod and they look like "It doesn't make sense to me why .... It's so funny when ....." and a bunch of other cut-off repetitive things lol. Visuals were so crazy. There were all these rainbow creatures that were dancing to my music. At one point they turned to black monsters that I thought were dropping me in a black hole. Their hands were about to let go of me and I thought maybe it was a sign that I was going to OD/die but I realized that the opening between me and the blanket was just falling.
Overall, this is a fun and long lasting drug. Things seem extremely funny on it. But it's not like LSD where you will have insightful thoughts.

 

[Synaesthesia242]

That's a dangerous level IMO. I've been there, and it's really fun I agree. But looking back, I did kinda lose my mind. Having seen some trips that went badly, and reading about deaths makes me tread a lot more carefully with NBOMEs.

 

[Jackpothead]

Why this one is so less talked about here than the others, yet on every other forum this is the popularity leader by a mile?

 

[Lazaraus45]

Why this one is so less talked about here than the others, yet on every other forum this is the popularity leader by a mile?

I was wondering that myself, I tried it for the first time Wednesday and i'd have to say 25I doesn't even come close.

I'd done some 25I about 3 days prior and to try and compensate for tolerance I decided to take a tab and a half, each tab was 1250 micrograms, i vastly underestimated it, was totally overwhelmed for an hour or so (not in a panicky way) even after that i was unable to see the floor due to the neon glow, it seemed every hour or so the trip would change, like i was going through different layers of reality, at one point I was unsure of who i was, not as in forgetting my name, more having trouble getting my head around the concept that i was my own entity if that makes sense? felt moreish but not in a craving kind of way, I just wanted to see how far through reality i could get.

Probably my best trip to date (not that i've done a huge deal of tripping) had a very positive mental attitude about everything since then

 

[BillyBlue]

Why this one is so less talked about here than the others ...?

I agree, im surprised this one is so low on the radar compared to 25I. I loved my experience on 25B. Its equally as enjoyable as 25I, and definitely stronger IME. (I still love 25i though ).

Jackpot, when you say:

...on every other forum this is the popularity leader by a mile?

, which forums do you mean? Ive been looking for in depth conversation on 25B for a little while I really couldn't find much. Thanks.

 

[FunctionalOlfactio]

Every individual reacts differently to psychoactives. Psychedelics can be powerful tools for self discovery. Used responsibly they can facilitate radical positive changes in perceptual paradigm leading to insights that can have powerful effects on the way we chose to approach life sober. Used ignorantly or irresponsibly they can be dangerous. In the hope to defend the value of this chemical for a post prohibition day I have chosen to post the following in the interest of harm reduction. Remember if we abuse these chemicals and behave irresponsibly society will view them as destructive or, if we use them responsibly, our behaviour as individuals who chose to use psychedelics can send the most positive message possible about their potential.

A sample of 2-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2-methoxyphenyl)methyl] was prepared by weighing on an analog balance precise in 10mg increments. The dose was further reduced by volumetric measurement in pure distilled h2o. Composition of the compound was confirmed via nmr.

Dose: 300ug
Route of administration: Intranasal (A portion of the prepared h20 was insuffulated)
Duration: 10hrs
Comments: This dose was way to much for me. The effects took hold nearly instantaneously. Within 10 minutes I lost complete connection from reality. Aside from being incapable of moving for several hours I didn't notice any physical complications. Its hard to put an experience such as this into words. It was as if I shattered into an infinite number of pieces and died. As the amnesia and thought looping started to taper off I experienced an emotionally overwhelming experience I can only define as being born. The process took several hours and involved reliving my past chronologically and having to reintegrate every experience and idea consciously as it came up. It ended in several hours of crying overwhelmed by shame and guilt at the status of cognitive liberty in the country I live in. I was asleep after 12 hours. There was a warm peaceful afterglow that wasn't unpleasant or psychedelic for a couple days.
Retrospective: This sort of experience is hard to define as euphoric or dysphoric. During the peak I experienced undulating emotional extremes. After the peak it was very difficult emotionally but productive. I imagine the last part could have been more posotive and equaly profound for another person. I wouldn't define this experience as recreational.

Please be responsible and honest with these chemicals. I have herd of people taking much higher doses. As I was physically incapacitated for several hours at the aforementioned dose this leads me to believe that individual variations in neuro chemistry or diet are very influential. This should be taken into account when using or sharing any chemical. The future of very valuable tools is in our hands please be honest and responsible.

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[shakan27]

does anyone else have a strong alien/not from this world connection on 25b?

 

[MinusAgony]

had 1mg 25b in lime juice nothing happened after a couple hours, so we went doc and loved it. my question is: solubility with 25b and lime juice? or should it be with water?

 

[Anon0631]

What are you doing with it? It isn't orally active.

 

[MinusAgony]

trying to do 20mg in 100ml lime juice suspension 5ml should have 1mg. Shaken not stirred

 

[infantannihilator]

trying to do 20mg in 100ml lime juice suspension 5ml should have 1mg. Shaken not stirred

Uhm.

You've got 2c-b confused with 2c-b-nbome

Im not sure what else to say here.. you clearly have no idea what you're doing at all. Go do some reading please..

 

[MinusAgony]

I've been reading, for years. Thanks. I get it.

 

[Anon0631]

Ahhh... That's your problem. You should have stirred it

 

[bloodshed344]

I've been reading, for years. Thanks. I get it.

If it's 2C-B, take 20 mg orally. If it's 25B-NBOME, snort or put under your tongue 250 micrograms.

To InfantAnnihilator: "Go do some reading" I had to read to know that you said that. In that same space you could have instead been helpful. Saying "Go" and telling someone to figure out something on their own is not productive nor is even fit for a post. You're supposed to be the one typing the stuff that you want MinusAgony to read. Also telling someone to "go" when they have drugs won't work. They'll either do them with your help, or do them without your help. Which sounds worse to you?

You know, there's a point in your life when you need to stop doing things based on emotion, and do them based only on utility. Hey, maybe that's robotic, but at least it's useful.

 

[infantannihilator]

I've been reading, for years. Thanks. I get it.

"Go do some reading" I had to read to know that you said that. In that same space you could have instead been helpful. Saying "Go" and telling someone to figure out something on their own is not productive nor is even fit for a post. You're supposed to be the one typing the stuff that you want MinusAgony to read. Also telling someone to "go" when they have drugs won't work. They'll either do them with your help, or do them without your help. Which sounds worse to you?

You know, there's a point in your life when you need to stop doing things based on emotion, and do them based only on utility. Hey, maybe that's robotic, but at least it's useful.

Well, I reread MinusAgony's post, and I misread what he said which is why I got confused thinking he may be meaning 2c-b due to the 20mg he mentioned. Turns out thats just what he used for his solution. Water under the bridge, whatever.

He's been reading for years but somehow thinks swallowing the substance will work? Then posts wondering why it doesnt work? Theres no need for me to rehash what has been said a million times and is plainly evident in any and all of the many NBOMe threads out there. Heck it was already answered for him: shit isnt active orally. He already has it, already mixed a solution and already tried and failed. He came here because he knew something was wrong, he at least was "wise" enough to "only" try 1mg the first time so he must have done some reading, but clearly not enough.

So he mixed 20mg into 100ml of lime juice giving 1mg/5ml.. brilliant, thats about as useful as well, not much now. You snort 5ml of limejuice and get back to me on how that feels. Heck even the 1.25ml (250ug) you recommended won't be very enjoyable even if you can manage to hold that much liquid in your nose (which you cannot). Even holding 5ml in your mouth is going to be a pain, thats quit a bit of fluid really, I suppose you could make do though. Plus with the whole sublingual/buccal route there is the whole issue of proper absorption, hence all the talk about complexing with HPBCD. I don't hear anyone talking about that anymore, its typically all the older posts from 2011 so I have to wonder if thats been deemed somewhat unnecessary or what? This is mainly why I chose to go with the nasal ROA. Its pretty guaranteed that you;re going to get the dose you intended to. How did I come to this conclusion? By reading.

I just say read more, because it is all out there spelled out numerous times really. It sounds to me like he got hold of the substance, popped on for two seconds, thought he got the gist and went for it. Maybe it bothers me just because I researched and studied every bit I could find on here about 25i before I tried it. I read the threads, I learned which ways it was active and which it wasn't, what the best roa was, how to make a solution, how dilute to make the solution, what the best solvent is, how to actually administer given my chosen roa, how to store it, which dose I would start with as a safety precaution due to all the huss and fuss about seizures and death etc. All before I actually had the substance in my possession. Even when I got the stuff, I didn't have a proper vessel to hold my solution so I waited until I did to do it. I didn't even really have to ask any questions at all, it was all here for me. I did make a post clarifying everything I was going to do just in case I missed something, but I was given the green-light.

Impatience and lack of research are the main culprits for people fucking up, and reading is the only way to ensure you don't make those mistakes. People are referred to read threads ALL the time.

Perhaps some of what I am saying is from an emotional side of view, but a lot of it is based in 'utility' - as you would say - extending far beyond using RCs and into many other aspects of real life. I didn't want to tell him he was stupid or he did everything wrong, so I told him to go and do a little reading, and it should become pretty damn clear where he went wrong. I'm not the only person who responded to him either. I guess I could have told him the reason he had a problem was because he didnt stir his solution.

 

[Axed]

Getting a sheet of this stuff soon, but the blotters are (allegedly) 1.3mg. Is that a lot for 25B?

 

[Anon0631]

That's a pretty high dose IMO. I have done 1.5mg with tolerance. It was intense to say the least.

Bare in mind that the dose may be that high because its un complexed and therefore inefficient at absorption? Otherwise why are vendors engaged in a stupid arms race regarding who can make the strongest blotters? It's just going to lead to freakouts.

 

[kidklmx]

If technology is anything to go by (screen size/density, camera megapixels, CPU GHz), general consumers seem to think that MOAR equals BETTER