Most, probably all, pills I have taken were free of Amphetamines that's just how it is over here. If you want speed you buy speed and take it alongside your X. And for a lot of people, including myself, MDMA perk's sexual desires and causes inabillity to sleep.
But the recipe still seems delicious although a lot of people would rather have the Amphetamines separate. I would. So a MDA/ MDMA combo will be fine with some 5 mg dextroamphetamine pills to take as needed. Never had that couch lock till later on, I used to dance all night on MDMA and weed.
The sleeplessness is an indication of amphetamine being present within the pill as is the minor sexual desires as a result of MDMA because it is an antagonist to your 5-HT receptors although MDMA it's self is considered a psychedelic amphetamine,
Which hardly anyone consuming clean product has trouble sleeping on (Refer to pillreports/user reports).
Where as dopamine which is strongly affected by amphetamines is released creating the urge for sexual desires flooding dopeamine into your synapses even more than MDMA potentially potentiating the high. Users claim IV'ing amphetamines gives them strong sexual desires and some users even report ejaculating upon consumption. I personally am against strictly IV'ing narcotics but at the end of the day I'm here for harm reduction so it's my responsibility to look after these users.
I tend to get extreme sexual desires on a clean methamphetamine high but the comedown is horrid.
I've also noticed the after effects feel different now which is indicative of adulterants such as amphetamine and caffeine present within the pills. This is why I don't use methamphetamine but a washed product may produce different results.
Minor sexual desires are in fact a result of consuming MDMA but the sleeplessness and strong sexual desires indicates there may have been amphetamine present within the pills because when I others and myself consume clean/washed/tested MDMA I have no trouble sleeping afterwards though since the safrole treaty was signed and piperanol is the new precursor I don't get those oldschool urges anymore. Maybe something is inhibiting the release of multiple neurotransmitters and hormones which I believe meth or another adulterant is responsible for this.
Who knows after this long honestly though it's just a guessing game at this point unfortunately. But to my knowledge there must have been some form of amphetamine present within the pills as you claimed you were dancing all night and had trouble sleeping at the end of the night. When I take clean MDMA I'm a couch potato and don't have the urge to dance and can sleep like a baby all night (Then again this leads back to the quality of the product and old synthesis)
All I remember is shaking hands, Kissing and hugging friends from old school ecstasy.
Amphetamine contained within ecstasy is plausible because in fact a lot of chemists used to synthesize the MDMA and add amphetamine to it to increase the potential for physical addiction. It's cheap, Easy to synthesisze and chemists know addiction= $$
The magic is not gone folks. Lets find the solution because around 2008 when the safrole treaty was signed the MDMA feeling we all love and cherish has changed which can be found via pillreports.
Not going to argue here just trying to explain things from my side of the story.
People often wonder why MDMA has changed and a simple wash with some MDA and amphetamine may be the missing links. (Try not to overdo things and tamper with dosages, (As I say less is more)
Take a read of the feedback from one of my most enjoyable ecstasy experiences with these purple crowns and various other ecstasy tablets and take note of the comments... 90% of those comments were positive and mention inability to sleep, racing heart and the urge to dance (Speedy rushes) along with positive reagent test results for amphetamine.
Reagent tested. unadulterated MDMA alone produces no urge to get up and dance for me. This is the same for everyone I've spoken too.
I honestly believe it's just 1 pill I need to try from the early to mid 2000's era to confirm this and send off to edata for analysis or even a local laboratory I sent a xanax off to who will be informing me of everything inside the tablet whether it be quantity of substances present within the pill, analogues, adulterants or by-products, Which is something edata cannot provide. Quantity information.
I just don't get that energetic, empathetic or euphoric anymore and isomers are not to blame. It's either synthesis/precursors or substances they were pressing them with. As I was saying methamphetamine potentiates the roll
(Not trying to endorse methamphetamine/speed usage)
Here are some more examples of notable ecstasy back in the day and I know something isn't right with the substances present within the pills and/or the synthesis currently. Unlike how the users below a speedy/gear feeling which is indicative to the test results.
My comprehensive roll report will be uploaded with some washed MDMA and amphetamine to identify if I can obtain the old school feeling again. Could it even be slight traces of caffeine within the pills allowing us to experience what we did?
My money has it on amphetamine because the chemists knew safrole was in short supply, hard to obtain and harder to synthesise and with the treaty upcoming they had to get users hooked to methamphetamine which by analytical data was proven in Australia in 2008 on weeekends when the MDMA didn't feel the same and wasn't available. Chemists were well aware of this too.
Maybe the chemists have found a way to disguise the results or are simply not adding amphetamine anymore because the reagent test results looks different and react different to how we test pills now not to mention there has been a huge meth incline in since the treaty for safrole was established and it's cheaper to make MDMA without amphetamine so why bother?
Amphetamine definitely potentiates the roll and gives it legs. There is documented evidence here in the reports below. Potentially some caffeine too?
There was definitely some kind of stimulant in my era of consuming MDMA other than MDMA. Whether it be MDA, Amphetamines or caffeine. I only wish more of these pills were sent off to edata for analysis.
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=15610 (One of the strongest pills I've had to date despite the user report. Was warned they were strong from the dealer and still double dropped despite my stupidity. Ended up bringing 2 girls back to mine for a orgy. Was either the domed ones or the one in the report linked)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=12772 (The very first pill I ever took and felt noticeable effects from. Fantastic and couldn't have expected anything better.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=12863 (One of my all time favourites, Strong sexual desires, Strong empathy and euphoria)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=15681 (Very memorable and enjoyable night)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=10851 (Smacky based not as great as the rest from memory.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=13891 (Great pill and as you can see by the discussion reagent results indicate the prescience of amphetamine aka "gear" Australian slang. We just need to identify what kind of amphetamine was used whether it was meth or dexro or potentially even something else)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=14714 (Great clean pills, Potentially some MDA present in the mixture because I was getting mild hallucinations, Increased libido and energy)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=15386 (Clean with no amphetamine present just a general nice sense of well being, euphoria and empathy. Lots of D&M's with people, A little on the weak side slept fine afterwards)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=8172 (An interesting experience on these, Mild hallucinogenic effects though clean experience overal)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=27970 (Here's another all time favourite, These were sent off to edata for analysis.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=30218 (A report published by my own confirming there was amphetamine present within the pills. Specifically methamphetamine as one user begins to describe his results from his reagent test. As you can see the dimensions of the other yellow handicap are different so they're most likely different batches. Ended up consuming these and had a blast.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=13044 (Always have reagent tested my pills, Guess I got lucky with a good batch, Extremely munty and euphoric.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=11389 (Clean pills, Very smacky indicating no amphetamine was present other than MDMA.)
https://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=15445 (Most notibaly one of the most speediest pills I've ever had that contained MDMA, Pure bliss and enjoyment. Despite what the report comments say)
It's a shame the chemists making these aren't around anymore because these were the best moments of my life. I made deep connections with friends, We would go for walks, Chat to strangers politely and friendly and receive polite and friendly responses back from people also on the same ecstasy. I don't get many of these psychological and physiological feelings anymore which is saddening.
Even the press looks different in texture compared to the new presses we currently see on the market. I honestly wish I had some stored away for safe keeping's as they were one of my all time favourites. Even note the user was unsure of suspected contents and rating but it sure sounds like MDMA with something else present or a different synthesis.
We'll get to the bottom of this guys and we're onto these chemists. It was most notibly the pills with amphetamine that would keep me awake for hours which induced overwhelming euphoria and empathy.