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EADD O-Desmethyltramadol Thread

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Yes it arrived not long after I posted that. I've already had some Kratom today so can't really guage the ODT's individual effects but it is definitely active!
 
what is this ODT stuff you speak of? some sort of Mitragynine analogue or something?

EDIT: just looked into it and realised it something similar to tramadol. If so im not interested.
 
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UPDATE: The O-dt is just sending me to flat out sleep atm, damn it as thats just a waste of good drugs if you're not even conscious to experience them. I think its probably more due to me having a big sleep defecit to make up after an extended heavy stim session. Dunno how long i fell asleep for just now until the phone just woke me, but ive woken up feeling GOOD, so the O-dt must still be there, still active.

Another order arrived this afternoon, gonna have to seriously think about whether i can afford any more atm after this order, with no income. Fortunately this latest order was very cheap, due to the points sytem the vendor uses, i deliberately ordered the biggest batch of etiz ive yet orderd, accumulated a shit ton of points for that, which i used to get a good discount on this order of O-dt.

HF: Its NOTHING similar to tramadol atall, the only similarity is the name, the effects are completely diffrent, odt binds directly to the opi receptots, at least 40 times greater than tramadol does. ODT also has no effect on serotonin.
 
Thanks for the info. Good about it having nothing to do with serotonin especially after my recent serotonin syndrome episode I cant be too careful! I tried tramadol about 6 years ago but cant remember what it even felt like. Iv never been one for opiates and I hope I never go down that path as Iv seen some friends do so and witnessed the turmoil it causes for them and the people around them... love love love kratom though so im guessing id love opiates, thats the problem though so I suppose I wont be trying this one.
 
True! fucking with RCs in general obviously isn't wise but ones which have addiction potential are a strict no for me now. Learnt the hard way with RC benzos.
 
Seems to be a few posts with regards O-dt recently, so I thought perhaps a separate thread might be in order. As you were... :)
 
mydrugbuddy said:
UPDATE: The O-dt is just sending me to flat out sleep atm, damn it as thats just a waste of good drugs if you're not even conscious to experience them. I think its probably more due to me having a big sleep defecit to make up after an extended heavy stim session. Dunno how long i fell asleep for just now until the phone just woke me, but ive woken up feeling GOOD, so the O-dt must still be there, still active.

Another order arrived this afternoon, gonna have to seriously think about whether i can afford any more atm after this order, with no income. Fortunately this latest order was very cheap, due to the points sytem the vendor uses, i deliberately ordered the biggest batch of etiz ive yet orderd, accumulated a shit ton of points for that, which i used to get a good discount on this order of O-dt.

HF: Its NOTHING similar to tramadol atall, the only similarity is the name, the effects are completely diffrent, odt binds directly to the opi receptots, at least 40 times greater than tramadol does. ODT also has no effect on serotonin.
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MDB, you need to make sure this doesn't get you into deeper trouble. The polydrug use is getting so problematic that you're seemingly taking drugs to counter the after-effects of taking drugs. Never a good place to be.

You've piqued my interest though - I must try this ODT. Can't find anywhere to buy it for the life of me, however. So I bought some heroin instead, as you do.
 
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MDB, you need to make sure this doesn't get you into deeper trouble. The polydrug use is getting so problematic that you're seemingly taking drugs to counter the after-effects of taking drugs. Never a good place to be.

You've piqued my interest though - I must try this ODT. Can't find anywhere to buy it for the life of me, however. So I bought some heroin instead, as you do.
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I believe ODT fell under a Europe-wide ban some years ago & I'm pretty sure it got banned in the UK too. There was a string of fatalities in Europe, Sweden or someplace...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Desmethyltramadol

edit - As I suspected. Banned. Class B.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mexxy-black-mamba-and-other-legal-highs-become-class-b-drugs
 
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I really enjoyed sniffing this one, even tho some people had less enthousiastic reactions to that ROA. Moderate doses would feel almost exactly like sniffing H except for the flavor. Lush carefree buzz, long lasting.

Lots of strong opiates available online today, O-dt, oxycodone, Talwin, fentanyl patches, plus H & buprenorphine, PLUS lighter fare (tramadol, codeine) from a domestic source. Bad time to catch a habit so I'm trying to steer clear. I do get some codeine prescribed for chronic pain and don't want to render that useless by raising tolerance.
 
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Chatative said:
I did a bit of digging & it seems by way of The Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 (Amendment) Order 2013, O-dt was indeed made illegal within the UK.

There is reference to O-dt being an active ingredient in a branded product that caused deaths in Sweden.

I did find an EU vendor that stocks it though, so I'm not sure on the EU front.
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Aye, I was aware that it's banned in the UK, but I struggled to find an EU vendor whilst conducting my not-very-thorough research.

I'll PM you for the source, yeah? ;)
 
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MDB, you need to make sure this doesn't get you into deeper trouble. The polydrug use is getting so problematic that you're seemingly taking drugs to counter the after-effects of taking drugs. Never a good place to be.

You've piqued my interest though - I must try this ODT. Can't find anywhere to buy it for the life of me, however. So I bought some heroin instead, as you do.
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Just echoing this. Not that its any of my business but please take care. Especially now you have no job its all to easy to slip into a destructive routine.
 
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MDB, you need to make sure this doesn't get you into deeper trouble. The polydrug use is getting so problematic that you're seemingly taking drugs to counter the after-effects of taking drugs. Never a good place to be.
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Apart from that point, I'll re-state that O-dt is a relatively strong opioid. The O-dt + benzo + alcohol combo felt to me just as dangerous as if the O-dt were swapped for morphine or H. Nods, ultra slow breathing, real stoned. Lots of potential for oversedation and just a bad cocktail to play with, especially if you live alone and aren't 100% conscientious (and you will not be 100% conscientious if you are redosing).
 
This was I think available in the headshops a few years ago, sold as Krypton Kratom, the pin eyed youth behind the counter recommended it to us, very dreamy but I wouldn't have it back not with the weed I have now.
 
Had a go on this just recently. Surprisingly nice stuff. Hard to categorise though. Didn't feel much like an opioid to me. Didn't feel much like owt I could compare with to be honest. Felt... not much of anything. Noticed I was inordinately chatty and carefree. Did fuck all of note for pain, left me with ridiculously intense (albeit brief) w/d after just 500mg. Nice stuff but strikes me as kinda iffy with such intense w/d after so little use.
 
An oddity to be sure. Recall from previous postings from last time it was around that folk got nobbled by the stuff quite badly but doubt it would've been off such small amounts so am putting that down to prior opioid addiction/wd cycles (we all know w/d kick in quicker each time you go around the block). Really was unusually intense for such brief use though. Admittedly brief - bit of codeine tapering over 24h left me feeling shitty rather then deeply clucky with today being the second 24h (smattering of codeine, nowt worth really considering) largely due to shock at sheer magnitude of w/d over the first 24h. Short, sharp shock as it were. Tread careful, I'd suggest.

For context, have used no other opies of any kind really for weeks so couldn't really be owt else. Was very distinctly opioid w/d. Glad it was only 500mg cos fuck coming off any kinda regular use if it's gonna be like that about it 8o
 
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