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EADD O-Desmethyltramadol Thread

I like this lots too, i think its quite psycholgically addictive as well as physically so. As well as being damnably expensive, so there's many reasons not to make this a dayly thing. The physical wd/s havent been bad after a 2 week stint, barley noticeable under the cover of kratom, could still feel them today even through the kratom, so had a small CWE which seems to have done the trick perfectly.
 
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so has everyone stopped using this already as talk has completely died down. The w/ds from 2 weeks usage were definatly present, but 95% masked by kratom and small amounts of codeine. I got one more small order in, had half of it yesterday, and it had completely different effects, more akin to what the effect were like in the batch that was aviulable 2 years ago, ie stimulation and energy. Once the nods wore off i was left with an incredible amount of energy and get up and go that would have kept me up all night if i hadnt taken enough etiz to floor an elephant. I was expecting to be conked out by around midnight but my usual dose of etiz had no effect atall. 8(

If i was working i could possibly afford to make this a monthly/fortnightly treat, but as things stand at present with its unpredictable effects even that sounds like a bad idea. Id expect the w/ds from 2 days use to be far shorter, but i'll discover whether thats true or not tomorrow.

EDIT: I see from today that the ODT is all gone, already. I wonder if that's it now, and there may not be any more for another couple of years. I'll be quite surprised if the vendor does manage do produce or procure another larger batch as they stated they were hoping to. Well if there's none avilable i guess that takes the question of my own self control out of the equation, and will help me avoid getting into another opi-jam.
 
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You mentioming the lack of energy on the previous batches has got me thinking. I could be way off.

My theory goes a bit like this - when you first start taking heroin, you get a severe nod and a lack of motivation to do owt, however, the more your tolerance goes up you do get less of a gouch, maybe lasts half hour and then you or i anyway get a more energetic buzz.

I become more focused on my work and run around like a man possessed, the gouch is still there if i sit down and relax and smoke a cig but as soon as im on my feet i have alot more energy than i would do normally.....

So, my theory, which could be bollocks is that its simply tolerance which has brought that different result.

I could be wrong, but it sounds very similar to heroin use to me. Just a thought. ..
 
I reckon it could be to do with people having more experience of opiates/opioids since the last batch was available. However if it is a result of tolerance it's worked in the opposite way to what you describe with heroin (it's gone from seeming to be a more energetic buzz to being more generic mild opioid effects).
 
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Sorry, my mistake, ive misread something somewhere.. i thought MDb said in a post that it was lacking energy..
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yeah i did say that to begin with, it was my latest batch that i found the most energising, dunno if that was tolerance related or if the batch had been tweaked, but there may very well be something in your theory. I dont know how ODT compares to heroin, you'd probably need a very large dose of odt to get anything from it if you already have a heroin habit. And considering the price of the stuff it makes it kind of unfeasable unless you happen to be rolling in money.

It's all academic now though anyway. :(
 
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agree with u totally about the H ezactly the same for me, more eenegetic and easier to work on once u have a tolerance anyway
 
It would appear that an opiate tolerance takes a very long time to reduce. Right from the start with this new batch of ODT 150mg wasnt having the desired effects. So i was quickly straight up to 200mg. And that was burning through money at a rate i cannot with any sense justify, allthough it did feel very nice.

When i first started 75-100mg would be plenty. :\
 
So any more updates on this? After that small batch it seems to have vanished off the face of the earth, though at those prices it wasnt really worth it im(&most peoples)o

My apologies it seems its still around in small & very expensive amounts, a real treat for anyone without opiate tolerance, but a waste of money at that price if you're used to em. Mm i still class it as the most euphoric, relaxing nods i've ever had, and the all round good feeling is incredible but tolerance sky rocketed very very quickly, and this was before i'd ever had a real habit.

Also, i own probably the thickest pair of rose tinted glasses, but i do remember this being something else back then
 
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It was different last time, or maybe its our own tolerances and stuff that are partly behind the differing effects, who knows? You're right about the prices though, they are a quick road to ruin. Ive bought a few grams since its most recent reapparance, most of the highs were really sedating, though one in particular towards the end of this last batch was very energised. Cant remember what i did different that one time, maybe my tolerance to the sedation was wearing off, really hard to tell. They are really maximising their profits out of this by refusing to sell in quantitities greater than 500mg. But its obviously still selling out quickly enough.

I think I'll try leaving it a few weeks between small orders this time, rather than ordering enough for a multi day binge, in the hope of lowering tolerance rather than shooting it through the roof.
 
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Has anyone tried this latest batch?

So far ive found all of it to be lacking the reliable stimulation and euphoria of the batch that was around a couple of years ago. I might as well try and resist the impulse to order if its just more of the same. All its done for me really this time round is to raise my tolerance and cause heavy drainage on my bank account, and it's unpredictable whether the pleasant stimmy effects will kick in or not or if I'll get some vaguely pleasant noddy effects instead. It really doesnt seem worth the money, i am not a rich man atm, and im trying hard to talk myself out of ordering more, not sure if I'll be able to resist 'one last' order just to prove to myself what i already know:this batch is nowhere near as good as the 2012 batch. 8(
 
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Man that ODT yesterday was very enjoyable. It seems ive not had any since before Christmas and my tolerance to the enjoyable effects must have lowered quite a lot. It turned out to be a bit wasteful taking it without having slept the night before though, as i just kept dosing off on the setee right through from 4.30 pm until at 5.30 am i finally got it together to go to bed for a couple of hours. I woke up still high as a kite, eyes pinned to fuck, and with a gorgeous itch to boot. Might almost certainly have to get some more in now.
 
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