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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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with no tolerence, i found 30 mgs to be a very nice dose, but i always dive in for some reason, guess i just cant help myself. ive done 100mg+ doses and i've never holed, even with very little to no tolerence, its just like been really drunk but more enjoyable and zero mindfuck for me anyways, i can function fine, apart from stumling around like an idiot
 
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Can anyone recommend me a good starting dosage? I'll be trying MXE for the first time this weekend.

I have no prior K usage but I am pretty experienced with DXM (I weigh about 150lbs and usually took 720-900mg of DXM).

I have no scale so I was going to dissolve 500mg of MXE in 100mg of water, I was thinking about trying 50mg for my first time.

The part that confused me was that erowid list the common range as <50mg and strong as 40mg+, but I read about people consuming 100mg+ at once.

Do you think that 75mg would be too much for a first timer? (I have decent experience with other psychedelics like 2c-e and shrooms). I would prefer a strong MXE trip. I figured 50mg was a decent starting point but seeing as I've read so much about others taking higher doses I'm not sure if I should try 75mg.
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In my opinion 75mg is A LOT! Insufflated, for me at least, 75mg is an express ticket to the hole. I am experienced with a number of traditional psychedelics, MXE took me somewhere I had never been before mentally, or was properly prepared for. Its physical effects at that dose will be massively disabling if you're anything like me. i.e. You will not be able to stand all that well, let alone walk, and could potentially be a danger to yourself unless you're in a safe and comfy place.

I typically aim for 20mg if I just want warm sparkles, 50mg is enough to launch myself into hyperspace, 100mg+ in a single dose is just plain stupid, WTF was I playing at. YMMV of course. For me, insufflated doses of any amount take an hour or so to feel full effects, regardless of dose. For this reason, it is wise to give the initial dose time to work its magic. It will become apparent within 45-60 minutes if you've had enough. If you haven't had enough and need to redose, it will be very, very easy to do so. If you have had enough, it will be very, very difficult. You'll just not be able to get it together. If you find you've had too much, my advice to you would be get to a warm and comfortable place of safety as quickly as possible. A bed for example. A floor will do in an emergency. Once in a place of safety, lie down, and stay there. You may feel a need to hang on. This will pass as the floor / bed moulds itself comfortingly around you.

I would strongly advise you avoid alcohol completely. In my experience the interaction is not pleasant, at all.

And having got in place all the appropriate disclaimers, here's something I wrote months ago but never got round to posting. Possibly it properly belongs in Trip Reports, but hey, here seems as appropriate . . .

Imagine you're lava. Sentient lava flowing down a Hawaian volcano towards the sea, all hot and rippling. Imagine flowing into yourself, and over yourself, backing-up, and splurging out. Imagine hot caramel if it helps. A curtain of warm caramel dripping over things and onto things and into things, into itself. Caramel's faster, and flowier and slippier than molten rock, obviously, but you get my meaning? Imagine you're composed entirely of some sort of Bose-Einstein condensate, fluid and undifferentiated and infinitely dense, except where you've got no mass at all and exist only as a mathematical wave of probabilities, being all quantum mechanical and stuff. Imagine Professor Brian Cox banging on about the wonders of the cosmos in a mancunian accent, and entropy, and heat death, and imagine that you're that last, final oscillation in the quantum flux as the universe comes to its cold, black, dead end. Imagine you're made entirely out of eels, black and cold and slippery and wet. Or ice crystals. Or glass. Bricks. Asbestos. Imagine you're an iridescent interference pattern on a molecule thick film of petrol on water, or a soap bubble, a soap bubble rushing out at the speed of light on this enormous pressure wave holding in this immense pressure and inflating outwards into some kind of enormous balloon made out of god knows what, stretched thin and tight over yourself, and then imagine you're like the foam on champagne just bubbling away into nothing, propelling yourself outwards and speeding away like tachyons rushing out through the universe, backwards in time.

Imagine you're tripping, and you know you're tripping, cos not two minutes ago you were tripping really, really fucking hard, but you're not tripping the same anymore, cos somethings different, like you've come out of the trip wrong and everything's ass backwards, so you do in that line you chopped out earlier somewhere you could find easy enough while you still could cos you knew you'd wanna redose at some point, and knew you wouldn't be able to get it together when you did, and imagine waiting for it to come in cos you know that you need to go back into the trip so you can get your head together properly and come out the right way round next time.

Imagine listening to The Orb and it sounds like nothing you've ever heard, cos The Orb have somehow managed to capture the noise the universe makes as it goes along to itself fizzing and bubbling, not for your entertainment, but just because it can, and imagine thinking you've really gotta make sure media player mixes the bloody tracks together next time cos that bit at the end where it fades out to nothing is like dying, and while it's interesting enough being an observer at the end of time and space as we know it the first few times, it soons starts to get really, really old. And imagine the beings being all wise, and alien, and comforting, and japanese, being all zen. Being all now. Being all here. Being all everywhere. Being all nowhere. Being dead.

Be careful, enjoy. ;)
 
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Is there a category to nominate something for "most awesome sentance"?

Sepher said:
Imagine you're composed entirely of some sort of Bose-Einstein condensate, fluid and undifferentiated and infinitely dense, except where you've got no mass at all and exist only as a mathematical wave of probabilities, being all quantum mechanical and stuff.
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I know exactly what you mean. :|
 
Hahahahaha! Can't believe you actually picked out that sentence Dwayne? Was mostly expecting a tl;dr, not a quote right from the middle of it? Cheers guys! :)

;)

Sepher
 
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The setting: A Beautiful Fall Day, Warm, Sunny a Colorful. My Girlfriend and our mutual friend S.
The Amount: 100mg spread over 45 minutes.

Basically while the three of us were together nothing happened. we all thought it would kick in quicker and thought, on well, it just must be this batch.
When my girlfriend and i start the walk home, everything starts to kick into high gear. It came on unrelentingly, i had to stop riding my bicycle. Walking our bicycles was interesting to say the least, given that weird people would pass us that looked like old hippy junkies from out of no where, and ask us cigarettes or a lighter. The Grass was Emeralds. I was channelling odd noises inside of my head which sounded like a mixture of gregorian chants and dubstep,

Best Hallucination :when i looked at my hand.... you know the spot on your finger tips where your finger prints sort of rise to a point.
When i looked at that, and then looked at the sky the sun and the clouds were the exact same impression as my finger print and i fell over.... i started to panic. As my head felt as if it was being filled with too much... too much of what ... i cannot say.

I started saying we need to leave we need to GET home something is happening.

It literally felt like GOD was having ANAL Sex with my Third Eye. from behind through my pineal gland.
Like... there was so much unearthly and radical information being processed into my head, the only thing i could attribute it to would be the initial blast of a 150MG DMT TOKE.

For awhile there, i could only say 3 things at once, my girlfriend who was also high, was saying this to her felt like a normal methoxetamine trip nothing out of the ordinary was happening to her... but at least she could correllate what i was saying because she said they were giving off different energies which she understood completely.

I said You know how people would put their thumb over some liquid acid, and they would hold it on their finger print to get high.
It feels like god just did that to my forehead.
Tipped my brain filled it with divine liquid, washed it clean and now i know more, that i'll ever know.
I kept on saying i feel clean, i feel so clean, and if anything was a little bit out of the ordinary i felt as if it was trying to, make my thought process unclean.
My girlfriend was excellent at looking after me, especially when i was demanding we wash our demons down the drain in what would probably be considered the longest shower on the planet.

The First time i ever did methoxetamine, i was at Shambhala. We Foolishly did 175MG while sitting on top of a Speaker for Skrillex.
That time, was ludicrious but i did not feel it was as much as an OVERWHELMING INFLUX Of Radical Unearthly Alien God Information.
175 just made it so that inbetween bass compressions everyone was for the time the compression was happening what they were on the inside in its purest form.
All i could do was close my eyes, but at that point it was like i was being projected moments in time which would display themselves, in a synchronized almost dancing fashion to the music.

The Next morning from 175 i was Fine.

This my 3rd time trying it. I did 60mg all at once, in my house with my roomate and my girlfriend and once again... nothing OUT OF THIS WORLD happened...

All i have to say is this stuff, is StarfirishHellDust in saw the Maw of a Manatee.
 
Looking to try this today for the first time, I did a small allergy test yesterday all was well. What kind of dose would not be disabling for a first time? I read here (I think it was here) a little while ago, that drugs like m1, because it releases dopamine, would raise the tolerance. Anybody experience this? I was a regular user of m1 in lowish doses, but I intend to stop now. I last took it a week ago, and just want to know if I need to overcompensate for it.

EDIT: Also, for my first time should I take it orally, sublingual, or insufflate it?
 
^ try 20mg for a first dose id say,
I wouldnt even go higher than it.
Snort, and swallow the drip


It will wonkify you and increase Music appreciation.

This chemical was fun the other week i tried it ALONE
Mixed with ket its asking for a strange, but extremely strong comedown
 
darksidedsam said:
^ try 20mg for a first dose id say,
I wouldnt even go higher than it.
Snort, and swallow the drip


It will wonkify you and increase Music appreciation.

This chemical was fun the other week i tried it ALONE
Mixed with ket its asking for a strange, but extremely strong comedown
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How long would the duration be for the average person with 20mg's?
 
4 hours total maybe 5. (effects and all may last up till 6 or 7 hours)

and you wont feel 100% normal again until you go to sleep.
 
Lithium should not be mixed with psychotogens because it is generally used for the treatment of mood disorders that psychedelics and dissociatives can exacerbate, but there are reports of lithium/ketamine combos on PubMed, so I think it's safe. Be careful though.
 
Wow I was kind of hoping you would reply since you previously shown in this thread that you are knowledgeable. Thank you for the answer, my friend will not try mxe then.

That being said; I had the best travel on mxe tonight, ever. Mixed with some synthetic cannabinoids and a month break. Whoa... I love this.

Edit: Hmm ok I see you edited your post now. So, to your understanding, the reason not to let her try mxe would be her underlying problems, I mean the reason she's taking lithium, not the lithium substance itself?
 
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Yes, if she maintains a constant blood level of lithium (i.e. has been taking it for at least a few months consistently, and takes her doses like normal the day of the "trip") it should be fine. No guarantees though. I think there would be considerable risk of e.g. mania or depression.
 
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