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Zolpidem

I find the mirtazepine and the zopiclone synergize perfectly plus for those people who suffer from z-dru related random behavior the mirtazepine will sofa-lock you so your safe. Rhe ony problem is when I become tolerant to that combo where the hell do I go next? Anti-psychotics??lol
 
monstanoodle said:


Oh, and when it comes to recreational Zolpidem snorting, I like to snort ~10mg (~ because of the coating) and take 10mg sublingually.
Honestly, I only discovered how much better the Bio-Availability is sublingually upon these last prescriptions of it!

I know this is in the words of the company who produce the sublingual version of the tablet but they're not jus bigging themselves up ;)
Just "flatten" the tablet (crush it and the coating will just about hold it together but do so and...) slide it under yer tongue on some paper or something and it'll kick in much, much quicker.
Plus add the dose you've snorted and you'll be feeling rather kushty in no time :)
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really wish I could get these from my doctor. No way either of these ROAs would be possible with zopiclone even if the BA was higher then orally, the taste from the drip would make me vomit. I know how bad it is if fhe tablet gets stuck in the back of your throat!
 
Ironically i have just come across some legit zolpidem, 2 x 10mg stilnox bars, i reckon i'm gonna save them for some night in the near future when i'm completely sober and cannot sleep, for some reason these just seem to make me drop straight off :), no matter what the benzo tolerance. It's nice! But i wanna see if it was just a 1 off, hence the wait till sober
 
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I dont get much effect off common benzos but theres is a small cross tolerence for me between classic benzos and zopiclone for me but my tolerence rises really quickly with diazepam for example but zopiclone is effective at a standard dose for alot longer. Colourfulkronos I gotta admit im jealous, not just zolpidem but brandname aswel! Are you based in america because brand name meds are massively expensive for nhs to prescribe. My gp nearly had a stroke when he looked at price of lyrica that he had to perscribe me as it was indicated by a specialist, the look on his face was great. :-D
 
I found any amount of over indulgence and tolerance rose at an alarming rate, quicker than anything I've ever taken TBH.

Someone mentioned Mirtazapine, it didn't work out for at all, I got little to no sedation and just felt like I was coming up on acid the whole time.
 
Nah, the shine wore off that pretty quick, it was like just being on the edge of coming up everything was kinda glassy and a bit uncertain round the edges, not good when you have to commute and work.

I was suffering quite badly with derealisation at the time, or at least the description of that felt like a good fit and that stuff did not help at all.
 
bunge said:
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I dont get much effect off common benzos but theres is a small cross tolerence for me between classic benzos and zopiclone for me but my tolerence rises really quickly with diazepam for example but zopiclone is effective at a standard dose for alot longer. Colourfulkronos I gotta admit im jealous, not just zolpidem but brandname aswel! Are you based in america because brand name meds are massively expensive for nhs to prescribe. My gp nearly had a stroke when he looked at price of lyrica that he had to perscribe me as it was indicated by a specialist, the look on his face was great. :-D
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Nah uk bud, even better ^_^, i'm waiting till im completely clean until unablle to sleep before i try then, i remember many a horror strory about the waking nightmares kinda thing lol so def having it with no stimulants
 
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Yeah thats a pretty lucky find in the uk from what I understand. You will have to let me knw what you think bout them.:-) atm23 im sorry to hear that mirtazpine didnt work for you, can I ask what dose you had and when at night you took it?
 
I honestly can't remember but I think I took it an hour or so before bed, it was mainly as an AD as I'd gone through all the common SSRIs and didn't get on with them.

I haven't found anything that brings me reliable sleep I just get up and watch TV surf the net these days it beats lying in bed failing to get to sleep.
 
I know where your coming from atm23 I was at that point myself a year or so ago. Maybe try the mirtazapine again at a low dose ie. 15mg as its more sedating at low doses. I also mix mine with zopiclone which is very effective. Or maybe try a bit of cannabis with a low dose of mirtazapine? I do that regularly and never an issue with interactions etc. just a really long sleep.lol
 
I've painted myself into a bit of a corner over the years, I had quite a substantial hash habit for many years but gave it up 10years ago when I gave up tobacco, I have tried the odd bit here and there since without the baccy but if I started up a regular habit I'd be back on the fags in no time.

Gave up drinking 2 years ago after getting in a bit too deep and had a Benzo habit on the go as well which I only completely shook off earlier this year.

Z drugs simply don;t do the job for me, I could have them from my doc but can't see the point, I think some of my insomnia is down to the AD I'm taking so I'm currently tapering off. Because I'm taking an SNRI it's tricky to mess with others and in general I don't get on with them.
 
I can see where your coming from. Ive put myself into corners like that before. Infact my life is mainly a case of heading up shit creek and then losing the paddle!
Sounds like maybe a no meds route could work better for you, you know relaxation techs and all that jazz. Or maybe a antihistamine and melatonin combo not sure to be honest, guess tgats why im not a doctor.lmao
 
Woop! First post.

My doc has been giving me these for my troubles sleeping. Well figured out that you could messed up with them after i tried to sleep after 3 beers and 10mg, some really sweet halluciation and fell asleep too quick /sadface. Few weeks later break up with my ex and boom like 70mg a bottle of vodka and woke up in hospital with a broken nose... So guys be carefull with nocts couse you sure aint remembering anything the next day.
 
BlindHelperMonkey said:
i was prescribed zolpidem as an alternative to tastes-like-metal zopiclone and the increasingly hard to acquire benzos. i remember being thoroughly unimpressed and forgot all about them for a while. one evening when low on drugs i decided to pop a couple with some methadone, sat down and had a bong while i was waiting.. then boom! suddenly the familiar surroundings of my abode melted away to be replaced by a whitish void and three or more entities attempting to communicate with me. i was so fucked i couldnt recall anything they said, but when i did start coming back i'd lost almost 45mins. i was totally unprepared for the intensity of the experience and was glad i was sat on my arse at home and not out on the main road outside my flat


stopped taking them after i discovered i was sleepwalking at night, though sleepwalking isnt the half of it. people have wrote pages of stuff while ostensibly asleep. my advice is, if you aint into doing weird shit - make sure youre tucked away in bed before they kick in
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Hey There BlindHelperMonkey, do you remember how much of each you took (considering zolpidem amnesia).
Was it a fun trip or change the color of your pants type trip.
Cheers:)
 
Hahaha good old zolpidem and zopiclone :) *nostalgic*
Once I popped like 75mg of zopiclone and I was literally delirious, I was drawing and did it for like 6 hours straight! Very crazy material was done as you can imagine :D
And fully blown hallucinations, the pattern in my carpet started to move and it has these camel-like figures in it and the camels started to spin and talk to me.. My friends were there and said it was fucking scary as I was staring my carpet and talking to this camel..... :D
 
stillnoct its always called if i get it here in uk , same in malta i much prefer zopiclone i take it over the nitrazepam my gpoffers , 10 mg nitraz or 15mg zop, zop everytime lol my friends think im nuts got a text 2 sec ago my friend wants me to pop round hes just got 28 of the 7.5mg for me wooohoo ,lol be back speakin shite soon!!
 
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