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Would it be feasible to legalise snorting cocaine only?

I get the feeling they aren't about to legalize anything.
Given the fact that surgeons, are now sometimes refusing to write a script for 7 days of pain killers after major surgery; even Norco 10's which is ridiculous: You are right. It ain't even a political thing. It is bipartisan bs.
There is also no one with any power sticking up for pain patients or chronic pain sufferers, let alone recreational drugs except weed. There was a lot of pills and real heroin and Narcan was not available, and now many times as many people dead from illegal fentanyl and the idiots in Washington don't care.
This is a war and opiod users are being wiped out, and people made to suffer.
Yet 118,000+ dead in 2023, almost 100,000 more deaths, and narcan is available and good Samaritan laws in many states.
Have we reached a peak? They don't care or maybe they do: Kill off junkies and make people suffer, as to try to stop new addicts. Oh you have a bad back: here's some gabapentin and take some asprin.
Fucking politicians, they didn't( most) go to med school. But now they terrorize doctors. So given those conditions and bipartisan support; you are unfortunately very right.
So any kind of recreational drugs, besides weed, is not going to happen.
 
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Given the fact that surgeons, are now sometimes refusing to write a script for 7 days of pain killers after major surgery; even Norco 10's which is ridiculous: You are right. It ain't even a political thing. It is bipartisan bs.
There is also no one with any power sticking up for pain patients or chronic pain sufferers, let alone recreational drugs except weed. There was a lot of pills and real heroin and Narcan was not available, and now many times as many people dead from illegal fentanyl and the idiots in Washington don't care.
This is a war and opiod users are being wiped out, and people made to suffer.
Yet 118,000+ dead in 2023, almost 100,000 more deaths, and narcan is available and good Samaritan laws in many states.
Have we reached a peak? They don't care or maybe they do: Kill off junkies and make people suffer, as to try to stop new addicts. Oh you have a bad back: here's some gabapentin and take some asprin.
Fucking politicians, they didn't( most) go to med school. But now they terrorize doctors. So given those conditions and bipartisan support; you are unfortunately very right.
So any kind of recreational drugs, besides weed, is not going to happen.
While down here, e have the opposite problem, like the pharmacist I usually buy morphine and oxys pills from asked me whether I was interested in some injectable morphine . She s a legit pharmacist and she s probably more criminals than the criminals I but blow from....
 
Not a store, it's a nightclub or bar. You must consume it at the front of the queue just after you have bought it. Not taking it away in your pocket or anything similar.

Yes store. Why no taking it away in your pocket or anything similar? Complete control of distribution = too much power = another middle man and price bump. Be like buying shots at a bar instead of buying a bottle. Unless your doing it to look cool whats the damn point??

That is why Amsterdamn aint shit compared to CA MI etc, Noone wants to be forced to do there substances in front of people. (no slam on amsterdam, im sure you can get some home)

So in my model there is absolutely stores that (while im just making shit up) all share a database that keeps track of how much you use per month. After that you must suffer the punishment of either A. Stigma and embarrassment of asking a friend. or B. Using the raw plant matter the substance is derived from.

Everything sold in weighed capsules and lab reports for all! Sams club wont like this model lol.
 
Yes store. Why no taking it away in your pocket or anything similar? Complete control of distribution = too much power = another middle man and price bump. Be like buying shots at a bar instead of buying a bottle. Unless your doing it to look cool whats the damn point??

That is why Amsterdamn aint shit compared to CA MI etc, Noone wants to be forced to do there substances in front of people. (no slam on amsterdam, im sure you can get some home)

So in my model there is absolutely stores that (while im just making shit up) all share a database that keeps track of how much you use per month. After that you must suffer the punishment of either A. Stigma and embarrassment of asking a friend. or B. Using the raw plant matter the substance is derived from.

Everything sold in weighed capsules and lab reports for all! Sams club wont like this model lol.
I saw a documentary on how cocaine is made. No moonshine equivalent is going to happen. Also sooner or later when people's noses are falling off like Michael Jacksons: they are gonna want crack or to shoot it.
 
Making cocaine is pretty easy.... No moonshine equivalent but if they let corporations fire it up; well I don't think there is a shortage. I do not even like cocaine; that said: So what?

Peoples noses are falling off right now, people are shooting coke and smoking crack right now....have been for a minute; so if that is worst case....no harm?

At least they could obtain it safely and know the potency and lack of cuts. The crack should probably be sold as crack or just cocaine freebase (idk im not a coke guy at all) Still doesn't it sound like alot less shooting in the street and cartels losing power?

Wouldn't the end user be safer?

Legalize and Regulate THEM ALL. The war on drugs has been so brutally lost.
 
Making cocaine is pretty easy.... No moonshine equivalent but if they let corporations fire it up; well I don't think there is a shortage. I do not even like cocaine; that said: So what?

Peoples noses are falling off right now, people are shooting coke and smoking crack right now....have been for a minute; so if that is worst case....no harm?

At least they could obtain it safely and know the potency and lack of cuts. The crack should probably be sold as crack or just cocaine freebase (idk im not a coke guy at all) Still doesn't it sound like alot less shooting in the street and cartels losing power?

Wouldn't the end user be safer?

Legalize and Regulate THEM ALL. The war on drugs has been so brutally lost.
Bullshit: it is sad all the hard work of picking, of picking thousands if not tens of thousands of coca leaves. Then using a weed wacker( or now called lawn trimers) and a long process of using gasoline and hydrochloric acid and other stuff and Long hours of doing all sort of shit just to make the base cocaine paste. Which those poor people in Peru( mostly, but also to a lesser extent in Ecuador, Bolivia and other places in S.A.) then the paste, was shipped to Columbia and the chemists hired by the Cartel, have to further refine it. Who the hell makes cocaine from coca leaves in America, no one.
The process ain't easy for the DIY drug users. They can't and don't. To hard and expensive to make and you need a lot of coca plants. Hard work and not worth it. Also you need the right climate. The process ain't hillbilly friendly, like moonshine. Heroin is easier to make.
 
I agree, nowhere Id rather be potwise. CA did blaze the way though. We are winning right now though haha; less taxes would always be nice I hate bringing an extra 20-40 bucks just to give uncle sam. (oddly enough there is one place that doesn't tax around here, I think they are owned by natives but still a strange but lucky phenomenon)

Damn 35 that is good, im still payin a buck and a half ish per zip but I get Glacier almost exclusively, sometimes its on sale for more like one and a quarter.....Thats what FarmScience and Loudpax go for respectively. (our two major chains in house brands). I have tried the popcorn buds and they didn't do it for me, that was about a half buck. Haven't tried shake because I struck out on the popcorn buds but I have heard good things. Do you know a brand of decent "water soluble" THC that is decent? As HighTeCH is vastly underdosed according to various fairly anecdotal reports of it being sent in to secondary labs. I know someone that will only get the Peaks or Giant Bud tubes as they sware up and down anything but colas make them cough....they are old, it may or may not be idk.

I can be a pain in pot shops as well, I know what I want and they always have an agenda to push. I also do not like any rosin/wax/etc that has a liquidy consistency. I always want the 'daily deals' and if they dont have what they say they do in stock online it is slightly annoying as an calling an audible is just asking them to voice an opinion. I do tip. On the flipside of the coin I once had a madman yelling something quite obscene at me, I didnt realize he meant me for like 5 minutes while this dude is screaming some pretty grotesque stuff; I look up he yells "What are you going to do" I stand up and exit the vehicle dude yells "I have a knife" which is kind of comical to me so I yell "Who doesn't" he starts marching towards the parking lot and the workers come out and ask me to leave (understandable enough I guess?) but the whole thing was quite loopy as they must have been onlooking based on there time of intervention... They had to hear me yell, "Dude who doesn't, just watch your language your on a bikepath there are kids around" ..........I have and never will have any idea why this man decided to scream about ehemm "chemical castration" to me, a straight white hillbilly with a beard ..... but it was most unwelcome lmao.
 
Bullshit: it is sad all the hard work of picking, of picking thousands if not tens of thousands of coca leaves. Then using a weed wacker( or now called lawn trimers) and a long process of using gasoline and hydrochloric acid and other stuff and Long hours of doing all sort of shit just to make the base cocaine paste. Which those poor people in Peru( mostly, but also to a lesser extent in Ecuador, Bolivia and other places in S.A.) then the paste, was shipped to Columbia and the chemists hired by the Cartel, have to further refine it. Who the hell makes cocaine from coca leaves in America, no one.
The process ain't easy for the DIY drug users. They can't and don't. To hard and expensive to make and you need a lot of coca plants. Hard work and not worth it. Also you need the right climate. The process ain't hillbilly friendly, like moonshine. Heroin is easier to make.

Not me that is for damn sure. I understand the process however and it is indeed a fairly simple one; not rocket science. (once you have all said materials).

I am aware that it is not a one man process hence the mention of corporations; I did not mean to imply otherwise.

The chain of horror that brings all of those things together is pretty messed up. If you haven't heard Immortal Technique ft Tonedeff (and a couple more) "Peruvian cocaine" each verse breaks down the different parts in the chain. (obviously not in such a way you learn how to make cocaine but it is a very good 'big picture' song if you have a minute)......again take away the prohibition you could take away ALOT of the pain associated with this process, but it is rather labor intensive. If that was your point I will concede; cocaine seems quite labor intensive to make. Fair statement.

*making heroin is pretty damn easy too if you have a shitton of poppys and somehow access to AA....which I assume companies with licences would have access too in this parralel legal drug world.
 
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A.A. =acidic anhydried( mis?) Also labor intensive if you want to make good number 4 heroin. But laboratory made heroin is done by professionals or those trained to make it by chemists. Fentanyl is easier, more compact, far less labor intensive.
Trump got the Chinese to stop shipping illegal fentanyl. Now Chinese labs ship the precursor chemical to Mexico.
However, there is a bipartisan effort to not give a shit. Let them die, sick fucks.
Narcan was not available to average people at the start of the so called opiod crises. 4-5 thousand heroin deaths, including suicides, mixing other drugs, dumbasses, and 'hot shots'. Less than 18,000 pill deaths, including suicides, mixing with alcohol and other drugs, dumbasses, ect.
Almost 100,000 a year more dead from fentanyl and traq dope, and now there are in many states good Samaritan laws, Narcan and nearly impossible to get a good amount or any prescription opiods. Due they, the government care, bipartisan no. Kill off the junkies and fuck over pain patients and even now post surgery.
Sick bastards are happy to sit back and make people suffer, so as to kill off the junkie population.
Why is it so fucking hard to get xylazine under control. Because they want more to die. Cheaper. Bipartisan sick bastards. This ain't some far fetched conspiracy bs.
This conspiracy is true and very real. No one with power and influence cares or speaks out. Just some people on the internet.
Oh that idiot Jnowhere who has never even seen fentanyl and only seen heroin, in the 1980's when two cops came to my elementary school with a good sized coffin style box full of all the different drugs in them to show us.
Not sure why a 9 year old needs to see all sorts of pills and hard drugs in a case?
 
Yes store. Why no taking it away in your pocket or anything similar? Complete control of distribution = too much power = another middle man and price bump. Be like buying shots at a bar instead of buying a bottle. Unless your doing it to look cool whats the damn point??

That is why Amsterdamn aint shit compared to CA MI etc, Noone wants to be forced to do there substances in front of people. (no slam on amsterdam, im sure you can get some home)

So in my model there is absolutely stores that (while im just making shit up) all share a database that keeps track of how much you use per month. After that you must suffer the punishment of either A. Stigma and embarrassment of asking a friend. or B. Using the raw plant matter the substance is derived from.

Everything sold in weighed capsules and lab reports for all! Sams club wont like this model lol.
It's like buying shots at the bar yes. That was the model I was talking about.

Not the off licence
 
A.A. =acidic anhydried( mis?) Also labor intensive if you want to make good number 4 heroin. But laboratory made heroin is done by professionals or those trained to make it by chemists. Fentanyl is easier, more compact, far less labor intensive.
Trump got the Chinese to stop shipping illegal fentanyl. Now Chinese labs ship the precursor chemical to Mexico.
However, there is a bipartisan effort to not give a shit. Let them die, sick fucks.
Narcan was not available to average people at the start of the so called opiod crises. 4-5 thousand heroin deaths, including suicides, mixing other drugs, dumbasses, and 'hot shots'. Less than 18,000 pill deaths, including suicides, mixing with alcohol and other drugs, dumbasses, ect.
Almost 100,000 a year more dead from fentanyl and traq dope, and now there are in many states good Samaritan laws, Narcan and nearly impossible to get a good amount or any prescription opiods. Due they, the government care, bipartisan no. Kill off the junkies and fuck over pain patients and even now post surgery.
Sick bastards are happy to sit back and make people suffer, so as to kill off the junkie population.
Why is it so fucking hard to get xylazine under control. Because they want more to die. Cheaper. Bipartisan sick bastards. This ain't some far fetched conspiracy bs.
This conspiracy is true and very real. No one with power and influence cares or speaks out. Just some people on the internet.
Oh that idiot Jnowhere who has never even seen fentanyl and only seen heroin, in the 1980's when two cops came to my elementary school with a good sized coffin style box full of all the different drugs in them to show us.
Not sure why a 9 year old needs to see all sorts of pills and hard drugs in a case?
Yes that is the substance. It is fairly labor intensive. Lol I do like Diacetyl Morphine so maybe it just seems less intensive?; more probable for me to go through the effort?

I dont have access to a shitton of poppies nor AA. There is a fairly simple well known synth that will yield you 66% hydromorphone from codeine. (large scale but lets just pretend) You have 1 gram of codeine, big deal, but 666.6 mg of hydromorphone, now were talking...... (involves paladium black if you feel like googling)
In the early Afghanistan war I had heard reports that there was a crude synth done in the field to get diacetyl or at least morphine from poppy pods. (talking in battle synth, can't be much involved?) The yield was quite poor reportedly.

I TOTALLY REMEMBER THE "DARE DRUG SHOWCASE" ... They even took the pot and hid it to prove the drug dog could find it ... we lost a teacher that day!! (you would have thought they knew that wasnt the day to be holding?)

Let me come clean right now though; I am not a chemist so this is all speculation and theory. I am very interested in pursuit of this path as who doesn't wanna be the closest thing to an alchemist? I finally figured out molar mass and how it affects yield lol. Say THCA has a molar mass of 100, THC would have a molar mass of 87, therefor maximum THCA to THC yield 87%.....That one I have practiced as heating THCA is umm easy and readibe, I get about a 60, 75% at best return and that is just add heat....

"Trump got the Chinese to stop shipping illegal fentanyl." I am going to stop you there and ask for a source on that?

OP -- I disagree strongly, in my parallel universe you can buy and take your drugs home, idk 10 gs a month? just like from a dispensary for pot, but no extra tax and lets throw it all in walmart lol. Last thing I would want to do is go out and sit around people when I want to do my drugs; but we are all different. So yea "Amsterdam model" explains your whole thing.....
 
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It's like buying shots at the bar yes. That was the model I was talking about.

Not the off licence
It's like drinking, I used to be a drunk, to quote George Thorogood, " I drink alone, and when I drink alone I prefer to be by myself" not gonna happen and I would not wanna do shit in public. I would want to be alone and in the relative safety of my home. Amsterdam is a waste of money and organized crime is involved in supplying and re upping those lame ass coffee shops. You would need Michigan style full legalization but growing your own coca plants would be too labor intensive. I hate smoking pot anymore. Also the cost of insurance and a lawsuit happy place would make it difficult. You would probably have to make a deal with governments in South American.
Then use real chemists, like the ones who make the cocaine hydrochloride solution that is used eye and other delicate surgeries as a local anesthetic also in nose( yeah I see the irony) and for its vasoconstriction properties. Meaning no blood loss, because it constricts blood vessels. But that is very limited in its usages.
Also it would be more of a target than pot shops, who always have at least on visible but many times two or more guys armed.
With cocaine you would need guys with a legal work related( like sensitive military contractor companies) machine gun licenses. That get complicated. In Michigan you don't need a permit, to openly carry but most probably have a concealed carry permit anyways. But you would need more than rent a cops with glocks, to protect these places and yeah there are plenty of cops and ex- special forces guys who could get a work related machine gun permit. That raises costs and insurance premiums and other operational cost significantly.
Also the deliveries would have to be done in armored cars. Also no one would want these places within a thousand or more feet from any type of religous places or schools. Also away from federal and other government places and residential areas, NIMBY.
ALL this drive up the cost. Also on site medical professionals, like EMS workers.
Cocaine can cause medical issues, especially in people with undiagnosed heart issues. Also no one can tell when I am on my legally prescribed narcotics, and the danger of using a opiod before hand and getting basically a similar to a speedball effect.
Then you have hours of operation which I joked about in an earlier post.
Then you need a building. Then unarmed bouncers, problems with customers and you can't have them grabbing a gun off a bouncer, also the cost of all the other non security types of workers.
All this shit costs serious money and when all is said and done the place would need to turn a profit. With a ridiculously insurance and all kinds of people working as mentioned earlier, and then the tax man is gonna want his cut.
Then there is the profit margin. All this and a cocaine bar would be expensive to go to. Especially in lawsuit happy place like Michigan. I not only have home owners insurance but umbrella insurance.
Years before I moved into my current house( which I own, free and clear, no mortgage) there was some dumbass kid who trespassed and drowned in the private lake/ pond. He illegally went swimming, it is a private no public access pond and everyone got sued.
I have insurance against shit like this or if I have to defend myself from an intruder.
You take all these costs and insurance considerations and whatnot.
You will find yourself or whom ever is the proprieter of this place in the same position as California because the costs will be too high;( no pun) and coke will be cheaper and less hassles from a good dealer. Besides who wants to give out their info. Marijuana, who cares unless you work at certain jobs.
Not gonna work.
Considering also the bipartisan war on pain patients and doctors and all the horror stories of surgeons not writing for opiod pain killers after major painful surgery( they use to be able to write a non refill script for up to a week's worth, 28 or maybe 30 pills and now many don't and GP's( not mine) who will not write for opiods, this has no chance.
There is also a list of medical reasons that about abandonment and cutting off without a taper, which they can now get away with, it ain't realistic or feasible.
Not gonna happen and so ridiculously complicated even if they could. No insurance company would put up a policy on such place. And selling it by the gram or fraction of a gram would bankrupt you unless you were selling as much as Pablo Escabar did. This place ain't moving that many 1000's of metric tons a year.
All the issues can be summed up by a Rick James quote " Cocaine is a hell of a drug"
 
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It's like drinking, I used to be a drunk, to quote George Thorogood, " I drink alone, and when I drink alone I prefer to be by myself" not gonna happen and I would not wanna do shit in public. I would want to be alone and in the relative safety of my home. Amsterdam is a waste of money and organized crime is involved in supplying and re upping those lame ass coffee shops. You would need Michigan style full legalization but growing your own coca plants would be too labor intensive. I hate smoking pot anymore. Also the cost of insurance and a lawsuit happy place would make it difficult. You would probably have to make a deal with governments in South American.
Then use real chemists, like the ones who make the cocaine hydrochloride solution that is used eye and other delicate surgeries as a local anesthetic also in nose( yeah I see the irony) and for its vasoconstriction properties. Meaning no blood loss, because it constricts blood vessels. But that is very limited in its usages.
Also it would be more of a target than pot shops, who always have at least on visible but many times two or more guys armed.
With cocaine you would need guys with a legal work related( like sensitive military contractor companies) machine gun licenses. That get complicated. In Michigan you don't need a permit, to openly carry but most probably have a concealed carry permit anyways. But you would need more than rent a cops with glocks, to protect these places and yeah there are plenty of cops and ex- special forces guys who could get a work related machine gun permit. That raises costs and insurance premiums and other operational cost significantly.
Also the deliveries would have to be done in armored cars. Also no one would want these places within a thousand or more feet from any type of religous places or schools. Also away from federal and other government places and residential areas, NIMBY.
ALL this drive up the cost. Also on site medical professionals, like EMS workers.
Cocaine can cause medical issues, especially in people with undiagnosed heart issues. Also no one can tell when I am on my legally prescribed narcotics, and the danger of using a opiod before hand and getting basically a similar to a speedball effect.
Then you have hours of operation which I joked about in an earlier post.
Then you need a building. Then unarmed bouncers, problems with customers and you can't have them grabbing a gun off a bouncer, also the cost of all the other non security types of workers.
All this shit costs serious money and when all is said and done the place would need to turn a profit. With a ridiculously insurance and all kinds of people working as mentioned earlier, and then the tax man is gonna want his cut.
Then there is the profit margin. All this and a cocaine bar would be expensive to go to. Especially in lawsuit happy place like Michigan. I not only have home owners insurance but umbrella insurance.
Years before I moved into my current house( which I own, free and clear, no mortgage) there was some dumbass kid who trespassed and drowned in the private lake/ pond. He illegally went swimming, it is a private no public access pond and everyone got sued.
I have insurance against shit like this or if I have to defend myself from an intruder.
You take all these costs and insurance considerations and whatnot.
You will find yourself or whom ever is the proprieter of this place in the same position as California because the costs will be too high;( no pun) and coke will be cheaper and less hassles from a good dealer. Besides who wants to give out their info. Marijuana, who cares unless you work at certain jobs.
Not gonna work.
Considering also the bipartisan war on pain patients and doctors and all the horror stories of surgeons not writing for opiod pain killers after major painful surgery( they use to be able to write a non refill script for up to a week's worth, 28 or maybe 30 pills and now many don't and GP's( not mine) who will not write for opiods, this has no chance.
There is also a list of medical reasons that about abandonment and cutting off without a taper, which they can now get away with, it ain't realistic or feasible.
Not gonna happen and so ridiculously complicated even if they could. No insurance company would put up a policy on such place. And selling it by the gram or fraction of a gram would bankrupt you unless you were selling as much as Pablo Escabar did. This place ain't moving that many 1000's of metric tons a year.
All the issues can be summed up by a Rick James quote " Cocaine is a hell of a drug"
Good summary.

Pipe dream then.

But would it work with mdma?
 
Yes that is the substance. It is fairly labor intensive. Lol I do like Diacetyl Morphine so maybe it just seems less intensive?; more probable for me to go through the effort?

I dont have access to a shitton of poppies nor AA. There is a fairly simple well known synth that will yield you 66% hydromorphone from codeine. (large scale but lets just pretend) You have 1 gram of codeine, big deal, but 666.6 mg of hydromorphone, now were talking...... (involves paladium black if you feel like googling)
In the early Afghanistan war I had heard reports that there was a crude synth done in the field to get diacetyl or at least morphine from poppy pods. (talking in battle synth, can't be much involved?) The yield was quite poor reportedly.

I TOTALLY REMEMBER THE "DARE DRUG SHOWCASE" ... They even took the pot and hid it to prove the drug dog could find it ... we lost a teacher that day!! (you would have thought they knew that wasnt the day to be holding?)

Let me come clean right now though; I am not a chemist so this is all speculation and theory. I am very interested in pursuit of this path as who doesn't wanna be the closest thing to an alchemist? I finally figured out molar mass and how it affects yield lol. Say THCA has a molar mass of 100, THC would have a molar mass of 87, therefor maximum THCA to THC yield 87%.....That one I have practiced as heating THCA is umm easy and readibe, I get about a 60, 75% at best return and that is just add heat....

"Trump got the Chinese to stop shipping illegal fentanyl." I am going to stop you there and ask for a source on that?

OP -- I disagree strongly, in my parallel universe you can buy and take your drugs home, idk 10 gs a month? just like from a dispensary for pot, but no extra tax and lets throw it all in walmart lol. Last thing I would want to do is go out and sit around people when I want to do my drugs; but we are all different. So yea "Amsterdam model" explains your whole thing.....
It was on the news on a news outlet on the internet and it is common knowledge that Thrump got who ever that former pig farmer who is president or whatever. But it did nothing because precursor drugs are shipped to Mexico and the Cartels make a lot of it and easily smuggle it.
 
You have nailed the idea. You must consume it at the bar/ desk area at the front of the queue while staff watch you, and then you can return to your seat or dance floor. No needles or baking soda allowed in the club ( no alcohol sold either) and your not allowed to pocket the coke.

That model would almost completely stop anyone wanting to take any meaningful quantity home with them as it's really difficult to buy and not use straight away. Funny looks and staff saying " please consume now sir or we have the power to take it back off you".

Everyone would know the procedure anyway. 👏👏
and what about people like myself, who snorts their blow in their homes ( when it was possible) or with my mates when we rehearse? I m all for legalization, imagine that legal money that could go into social programs, Perú Bolivia and Colombia would be rich Saudi Arabia style, we ll take a shitload of money from the cartels, but man there will always be people who will shoot or smoke their blow, deal with it, as there are people who abuse their legal highs like booze. Legalization is no heaven, is the lesser of two evils
 
Cocaine can cause medical issues, especially in people with undiagnosed heart issues. Also no one can tell when I am on my legally prescribed narcotics, and the danger of using a opiod before hand and getting basically a similar to a speedball effect.
Then you have hours of operation which I joked about in an earlier post.
Then you need a building. Then unarmed bouncers, problems with customers and you can't have them grabbing a gun off a bouncer, also the cost of all the other non security types of workers.
All this shit costs serious money and when all is said and done the place would need to turn a profit. With a ridiculously insurance and all kinds of people working as mentioned earlier, and then the tax man is gonna want his cut.
Sure buddy, but this is already happening. The money from the legal coke could and should be used to create an entire safety net, employing therapists, bouncers , etc, it definitely will cost less than, say, put people in prison, enforce unenforceable laws I I don t think that DEA of yours works for free) etc
 
At least quality would go up ...what you said
You mentioned Healthcare, we spend over 4 trillion as it is on Healthcare. All those rehabs and highly educated at least some at the top and other workers to deal with millions of new addicts and probably 10 tens of millions of new addicts. Trust me dumbass college kids would get addicted, that how I became an alky, but no longer, nearly died and am allergic now. No way to afford the costs. The taxes would crash the economy. We can't even deal with all the addicts now. And as Rick James said" cocaine is a hell of a drug." Legalized, people will want to turn it into crack and many shoot it. No way, Our country would collapse. The people that make baking soda would benefit.lol

However we have a hugh shortage of rehab beds, phycologist and trained drug counselors now. The cost would be astronomical and we have a 13 figure budget shortfall as it is, each year. Their is a bipartisan effort to not let pain patients or and even now some surgeons will not write a seven day script post, major surgery.

The only way that would change, I can't say it outright but it would involve people in pain suing and well, settling it out of court in the worst possible way. Doctors and politicians would have to fear the public for things to change. I am against that but massive continuing lawsuits that would fuck up the medical industry would be a better solution than every doctor needing to carry a gun , have a bullet proof car and a body gaurd.

Change can happen if enough pain patients sued every doctor who didn't help with pain. Also I am strongly against another way and I am not going to quote Stalin or Mao, who together are responsible for a hundred million deaths.

So, that would not be the answer but if people like me were dying and denied pain meds, I might not be able to take the pain and end my suffering. As a Christian I can not justify another option, but if things get bad people might do just that and not die alone.

Hopefully this bipartisan overreaction to prescription opiods and their willingness to turn a blind eye to the Fentanyl crisis. Which kills more American people each year than the The Korean war 1950-1953 and Vietnam early 60's to 1975 combined. The government wants to wipe out opiod addicts and prevent new ones from pain killer use. Let the junkies die and fuck those in pain.

I am scared at this bs with lack of opiods for people who need them. And the sorry about the conspiracy like willingness to let opiod addicts use Fent and Traq dope and die.
3 bottles of Narcan or sometimes more for a fentanyl od, but what about Xylazine how do fight that?

Sad but throw the politician out off office. Find guys like me sorry, even in this day age a women who would fight verbally like me, unfortunately, would called a crazy bitch or cunt, I would erase all possession charges and over time after no other issues; erase small time dealers records. Decriminalize possession and use the Federal government to stop terrorizing doctors and have a DEA chief who like me is a rational moderate libertarian.

No one but me would vote for, ok some would; however drug reform would be a major platform and I don't care what the media of fellow politicians say. Fine, I am not a team player. But I would end all state ways preventing Marijuana in a Michigan style way. And make drugs decriminalized in small quantities. No you can't buy crack at 7/11, Circles k Unimarts, Wawa ect...

But things are not going to change. Those that pull the strings cannot be stopped be non violent means and I am not going to have any part of that. IT WOULD BE EVIL AND WRONG! So suing and protesting, but where are the lefties on this? Where is anyone? Just me and a few other on here bitching about it.

I may seem a little off, but I would only support non- violent legal means of change. Where are the filthy rich and powerful? They get what they need and/or want. Fuck the little people, not disparaging midgets, I mean the average person in pain and the bipartisan effort to say let the junkies die. It is sick and wrong.

So if people can't get opiods for pain than what chance is their for Cocaine, Mdma, Meth besides prescription but they(DEA) is planning on going after Adderall, Ritalin and others. Just like with opiods. Fuck those who need it.
If my favorite Redneck Electrum1 was here he would have the article, but this will happen after a fucked up election.
Come November and a little before the media with a hand up their asses; will begin talking about prescription amphetamines just like the opiod crisis.
 
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You mentioned Healthcare, we spend over 4 trillion as it is on Healthcare
are they almost all private, right? It seems to me it s just another business, some people really need rehab but many , cheaper and more effective , ways of providing helthcare are possible
So if people can't get opiods for pain than what chance is their for Cocaine, Mdma, Meth besides prescription but they(DEA) is planning on going after Adderall, Ritalin and others. Just like with opiods. Fuck those who need it.
But in fact we are allies, what they are doing to you and to many others like u is a human right violation, putting adults in jail because they....use a substance that in many cases is way less dangerous than alcohol ( and you an confirm) also is, that s why anti prohibition is so important to me, is or should be bipartisan, same as issues like security or public health or education, not a left thing or right thing
 
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