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Opioids Withdrawal coping techniques (Mega Thread)

An important thing to me is trying to stay active instead of sitting around not doing anything. This, at least for me, keeps my mind from being solely focused on how bad I feel and wondering how I can get some drugs. Definately stay away from alcohol that makes me feel ten times worse. Like most people say lomotil, benzo's, lots of fluids, vitamins especially c and b for some energy. I also agree with some good movies/ video games to keep your mind off of it. I never feel like eating when I'm in wd's but like captain heroin said eat some good food/comfort food. Most importantly get on BL and just read, that helps me for some reason, and sometimes it makes my envious of everyone that is high on here, lol.
 
Here's a tip that a friend passed along to me one night while I "saw Jesus". At the height of my restless legs, muscle tensing, creepy-crawly muscle feeling, he suggested I drink a tall glass of sugar water. By damned it worked for about 30 minutes worth of relief from the muscle symptoms and allowed me to doze off for a bit. This along with the hottest showers you can stand for as long as you can stand them.
 
drewskie said:
Most importantly get on BL and just read, that helps me for some reason, and sometimes it makes my envious of everyone that is high on here, lol.
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i ALWAYS do this. i get jealous and tend to post in the WD threads. i know theres one in drug culture somewhere. i also tend to read the long ass threads in DC.

when i withdrawal i spend a lot of my time on the computer, and then watch tv late at night till i fall asleep on the couch or in bed. last time i went the full duration i watched like every season of that 70s show on youtube / late at night on tv.
 
This thread might be more helpful if people told what opiate/opioid they were w/d from. I know most opiate w/d are pretty much the same, but I know there is a difference in what works for hydrocodone vs. morphine w/d. When going through hydrocodone w/d, I only need about 2mg xanax a day, 12mg of loperamide, and some buds. Morphine w/d is a whole other ball game that requires about double the above mentioned.
 
I was just reading a Subutex leaflet I had lying around and it mentions Lofexidine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lofexidine).

Looks interesting. Anyone got any experience with it?

Some great advice in this thread!

I'm over the worst of it now, but still waking up freezing cold, achey, etc. But during the day the 20ml meth holds me ok.

Can't believe I didn't think about Ketamine, I used to be a massive K-junky, so it is strange that I didn't even consider it.

Thinking about it, I suppose I could just go cold turkey and K-hole my way through it!

If one is considering a sudden cold turkey detox, it makes sense, I suppose, to switch to heroin instead of methadone to make the withrdrawal process much easier. How long would it take to fully adjust to the heroin and have all the methadone out of your system?

Keep up with the good advice! Info like this is a neccesity for myself and a lt of ppl around me!

Cheers! Oli
 
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I've heard a bit about lofexidine and its been discussed some here. I know its used in the UK but I don't think its used in the US, or at least not commonly. I have heard from people's experience that it offers little advantage over clonidine but I can't confirm this.
 
when i detoxed off an IV morphine habit i did a slow methadone taper... was on maintenance for about 2 years and tapered from 90mg in maybe 4 or 5 months...

today i'm on day2 of the withdrawls of a 600mg/day codeine habit... not the worst opiate to be addicted to by far... but its otc availlability makes it very very tempting... i could go get a "fix" right now and it would take me 30 seconds from my room to the pharmacy...

I'm just thinking that with the money i save i can get a G of 2C-P or 2C-T-2 and parteeey... coz lately, with my codeine habit, i'm quite content staying in on W/E and evenings and getting high, instead of partying with friends...

back to the question... loperamide is a life saver... a comfy bed, lots of movies and DVD's... and tea with honey in it!
 
For all the people discussing loperamide, please seriously consider looking into kratom in the future. It is legal outside of Thailand, Bhutan, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Poland, Lithuania, Malaysia and Myanmar (thanks Wikipedia), and it works extremely well with withdrawals. Kratom has the potential to give back energy and take away sickness, much more so than can be expected with loperamide. This isn't to mention that kratom leaf is generally about as cheap, if not cheaper than loperamide.
 
BollWeevil said:
For all the people discussing loperamide, please seriously consider looking into kratom in the future. It is legal outside of Thailand, Bhutan, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Poland, Lithuania, Malaysia and Myanmar (thanks Wikipedia), and it works extremely well with withdrawals. Kratom has the potential to give back energy and take away sickness, much more so than can be expected with loperamide. This isn't to mention that kratom leaf is generally about as cheap, if not cheaper than loperamide.
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Kratom is incredibly cheap. Even if you're going down from a huge opiate tolerance, its still more worthwhile and easier to step down off of than many opiates, or even just to use as a maintenance drug.

Plus, in addition to staving off withdrawals, it has an almost antidepressant effect, where I didn't exactly feel high, but just genuinely stoked on life and in the mood to accomplish things, which didn't happen when I just used something like vicodin or oxy to take away withdrawals.
 
I'm looking into Kratom. Sounds good.

With regards to Loperamide. I was just assuming everyone took it to help with diarrhea, due to suddenly not being constipated any more. But now on Wikipedia, I read that it's an opioid-receptor agonist and acts on the μ-opioid receptors. I don't particularly understand the science of this. So does it help with all withdrawal symptoms?

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I've heard a bit about lofexidine and its been discussed some here. I know its used in the UK but I don't think its used in the US, or at least not commonly. I have heard from people's experience that it offers little advantage over clonidine but I can't confirm this.
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Ok cheers, Are peoples experiences with Clonidine and withdrawal generally positive?
 
^It doesn't penetrate the BBB, so the receptors it binds with are primarily in the intestines. It seems to help to a degree with other symptoms, but not nearly like a traditional opiate or opiate-like substance that penetrates the BBB would.
 
early in the day I would start off with STOOL SOFTENER (if your a hardcore user, wen swim was young he would have diaherrea from getting off opes but wen u grow older and mature into the spikelee then ull know its actually impossible to shit unless u have STOOL SOFTENER, marijuana, 20-40mg flexerol (flexerol is very obtainable I have a script of it with refills always),200mg advil, 4mg suboxone, 4mg benzo, once your able to eat a good breakfast thats always good, more marijuana,

at night

same list as the morning list only add benadryl and/or nyquil, and a SEARING HOT BATH for 30 min for joint and back pain some people recommend shooting suboxone or shooting suboxone and benadryl, swim has done both at the same time and apart and I dont think its worth it, its bad enough swim shoots 80s everyday for the past cuple years
 
If you're up to it- I recommend long walks. Walking for a few hours will help take you out of that negative mind-space that comes with opiate w/d. Walking can calm the mind in ways that no drug can. Anything that gets you out of the house is, in general, a good idea. Even running simple errands can help.

I don't recommend drinking. For me, it makes everything so much worse for some reason. Also, waking up with a hang-over on top of opiate w/d is just really really really bad.

I've never tried clonidine but it just makes so much sense. I never asked the doc for it thinking he'd know what I was up to.

Insomnia associated with mild w/d can be treated with Ny-Quil Cough. You'll get a little sleep I've found...but not that much. Even a little sleep can help though.

Most importantly: remember that THIS IS ONLY TEMPORARY AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE OK. It's just gonna take some time but this too shall pass.
 
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If you're up to it- I recommend long walks. Walking for a few hours will help take you out of that negative mind-space that comes with opiate w/d. Walking can calm the mind in ways that no drug can. Anything that gets you out of the house is, in general, a good idea. Even running simple errands can help.
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Agreed with the long walks. I'm back at my parents house in the country for my detox. Walking the dogs every day across the beautiful countryside, breathing in fresh air, etc, sure beats sitting in my dirty bedsit trying to scrape the money together to score. (Although it is bloody cold!)
 
Personally I didn't find clonidine did much for me at all. I'd much rather some benzos and a decent indica. If it's there I'll take it and the lowering of BP is nice but, IMO the buck stops there.

If you can get it go for it man. Every little bit helps and ot works great for a lot of people.
 
get some anti psychotics.. like zyprexa to put you to sleep.
get some benzos.. for during the day. they will make you feel a lil better.
get some weed (if you smoke) (i dont) that'll help you get an appitite..
get some clonidine.. it'll help with the chills, sweats, hot flashes..
get some herbal tea.. its relaxing..
maybe a few beers. and some muscle relaxers.
Hot showers.. baths. w/e to sooth yourself.
Thats my input for w/d coping.
DONT forget to eat and maybe take a multi vitamin to make sure your getting all necessary nurishment you need.
 
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