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Wine + Mdma = A GOOD THING! (try this)

5-HT2 said:
I highly doubt that wine significantly potentiates MDMA. However, I could see how champagne would increase the speed of absorption, because it relaxes the pyloric sphincter (the valve between your stomach and intenstine.
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Vol. 300, Issue 1, 236-244, January 2002 http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/300/1/236

3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (Ecstasy) and Alcohol Interactions in Humans: Psychomotor Performance, Subjective Effects, and Pharmacokinetics

Unit of Pharmacology, Institut Municipal d'Investigació Mèdica (C.H.-L., M.F., P.N.R., E.M., N.P., J.O., J.C., R.T.); Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona (M.F., P.N.R., R.T.); Unit of Psychiatry, Hospital del Mar (M.T.), and Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain (J.C.)

3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) is frequently consumed in association with alcohol. The effect of this combination in humans has not been previously investigated. Nine male healthy volunteers received single oral doses of 100 mg of MDMA plus 0.8 g/kg ethanol, 100 mg of MDMA, 0.8 g/kg of ethanol, and placebo in a double blind, double dummy, randomized crossover trial. Measurements included psychomotor performance, subjective effects, and pharmacokinetics. Plasma concentrations of MDMA showed a 13% increase after the use of alcohol, whereas plasma concentrations of alcohol showed a 9 to 15% decrease after MDMA administration. The MDMA-alcohol combination induced longer lasting euphoria and well being than MDMA or alcohol alone. MDMA reversed the subjective sedation induced by alcohol but did not reduce drunkenness feelings. MDMA did not reverse the actions of alcohol on psychomotor abilities. Combined use of MDMA and alcohol causes dissociation between subjective and objective sedation. Subjects may feel euphoric and less sedated and might have the feeling of doing better, but actual performance ability continues to be impaired by the effect of alcohol. Confirmation of these findings in further studies will be highly relevant in terms of road safety.
 
well just two night ago i dropped a pill and usually i can't get to much out of one pill but i got what i would usually get out of almost two pills before i knew it i had drank the whole fucking bottle by myself and boy did i feel good. I never went in and out that much in a couple hours, was pretty fucked up the next morning though (terrible headache) think i over did it with the wine lol, but it was worth it.
 
I usually drink a bottle of wine on the comedown, and i find that it adds an interesting effect to the whole experiance. It is as if the whole empathy of the expeirance comes back in full force. You feel sober but still open and emotional, in a good way. Basicly everytime i drink a bottle of red wine 750ml. on my comedown i always experiance the most amazing afterglow and its also easy to go to sleep after. Make sure you eat before or you might get wasted instead of prolonging the empathy of mdma.
 
wine has always been considered a aphrodisiact as well so mayeb that could have something to do with it as well!

Im gonna give it a shot next time but my girl is into rieslings so i will have to go with the white wine route!
 
you only put 1 pill in it and consumed it 4 ways? i dont beleive how that could work
 
I'm going to try this tomorrow night after work with some pink rolexs. I'll give a report this weekend.(I haven't rolled in over a year and the pills I have are suppossed to be damn good. So if the wine trick is legit,I should roll balls)
 
HisNameIsFrank said:
I'm going to try this tomorrow night after work with some pink rolexs. I'll give a report this weekend.(I haven't rolled in over a year and the pills I have are suppossed to be damn good. So if the wine trick is legit,I should roll balls)
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how did it go champ?:)
 
yeah seems like a fun thing to do, I`ll see if I can test this the next time i`m rolling. Anyone else had sucsess with this method?
 
I dont understand how this could work unless you crushed up 4 pills and put them in the wine since you have 4 people sippin on it. Thats just like taking one pill and breaking it up into 4 quarters and each of your friends popping 1 quarter each then chuggin a glass of wine...doesnt make sense. I dont know about anyone else but popping 1 quarter of a pill wouldnt do shit to me.
 
EnYAY said:
how did it go champ?:)
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Well,the effects did come on earlier than usual,but I got impatient and took another pill within 15 minutes. It just seemed like we drank the entire glass in 6 sips. And there were only two of us,me and my gf. They were very strong pills,though. I couldn't see shit with my eyes fluttering for hours. When I looked in the mirror,I noticed my right eye had crossed and was looking directly at my nose. Although I had fun and the wine trick did seem to intensify my experience,I don't think I'll be rolling again for a looooong time to come. I forgot how much rolling takes out of you the next day. :|
 
MinneapolisAcid said:
hmm....
i'm glad i brew my own wine 5 gallons at a time.
now i just need a pill or 2.
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haha i make my own wine 2!!!!

i have some cabs going. a nice syrah and i just recently made a riesling. the alc contect was SUPER SUPER high


delish!!!=D
 
This sounds interesting............would putting a pill in a shot glass filled with vodka for 30 minutes work?
 
yea. and then just pound the shot.

prepare to get floored.

alcohol + mdma is plesent when done in moderation.

otherwise it can turn ugly. fast lol
 
I remember a few years ago I had a bottle of champagne with my girlfriend, and we popped 2 pils each just as we were finishing off the bottle. Unfortunately we felt nothing, obviously b/c we were both somewhat hammered. This always reminded me from then on that I would never be pissy from booze b4 popping b/c I was concerned (and still am) that I would not get the full effect from the pil.

S.
 
scoobymoo said:
I remember a few years ago I had a bottle of champagne with my girlfriend, and we popped 2 pils each just as we were finishing off the bottle. Unfortunately we felt nothing, obviously b/c we were both somewhat hammered. This always reminded me from then on that I would never be pissy from booze b4 popping b/c I was concerned (and still am) that I would not get the full effect from the pil.
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Anyone else here hate being drunk while intoxicated by any other substance? I hate mixing alcohol with anything... it feels sloppy to me.
 
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