• 🇳🇿 🇲🇲 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇦🇺 🇦🇶 🇮🇳
    Australian & Asian
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • AADD Moderators: Tronica

Will you raise (or have you raised) your kids to believe in Santa?

Will you raise (or have you raised) your kids to believe in Santa?

  • Yes, when I have kids I'll raise them to believe in Santa

    Votes: 30 52.6%

  • No, when I have kids I'll tell them the truth

    Votes: 12 21.1%

  • Yes, my kids already believe in Santa

    Votes: 3 5.3%

  • No, my kids don't believe in Santa

    Votes: 2 3.5%

  • I have allowed my kids to believe in Santa, but am unsure if I would again

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • I'm not sure which way I'll go yet

    Votes: 9 15.8%
  • Total voters
    57
Status
Not open for further replies.
i stole that one from friends though...
back to the drawing board... *puts on her nerdy glasses8
 
you lied to me!

You told me it was passed down from the time of the 10 commandments!!

I now know why mum looked so distressed when i was 6 years old putting up my santa wish list at home. i remember how dissapointed i was in getting home annd discovering that there were no presents.. that was the harsh reality.. and even at 6 i don't remember being too fussed except for the fact that at school someone was obviously making stuff up.. (ie the teacher)
 
hey, that's like when i brought home the good news bible from primary school! =D
 
I agree with EVERYTHING that DQ has said in this thread. I too believe in magic and angels, and I see why she now understands that lying to her son about something that isnt real and she has no faith in.

Go DQ !
 
Sllip said:
My parents never told me about Santa, and they never bought me any presents, and neither will I.

If your kids find out that you are lying to them then they will never believe you again. Treat them like an adult and cut them no slack. This is how I was brought up and I'm a much stronger person for it. No matter how you bring up your kids they are going to hate you when they become teenages, so you may as well arm them with strength.
Click to expand...

No offence, but how do you know you're so much stronger for it when you've never experienced it the other way? You're entitled to your own opinion of course, but where do you draw the comparison from?

Like anna said, I too was raised as a kid to believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy (and the Easter Bunny). I was a miserable depressed child most of the time, and it gave me a bit of magic and wonder to look forward to in life. I never once resented my mum for it after I found out it was bullshit, and while I'm on the subject I never once hated my mum when I was a teenager either. Not all kids do hate their parents once they reach puberty, believe it or not...

Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with it...it's not a decision I'm likely to face firsthand because I don't really see myself as ever having kids, but I do have lots of child relatives/family friends, and I love seeing the spark in their eyes when they have something to believe in that's a bit magical. I do see lostpunk's point of view and can totally accept where he's coming from, but for me personally....I think there are a lot more harmful things you can do for your kids than let them believe in a bit of harmless fantasy for a while....
 
anna! said:

The thing I'm trying to get at in this thread is, I think, that thinking objectively and learning why and how all the time is exhausting. It's nice to be able to have some escapsim, even if it's not real. Plenty of time to learn about how relentlessly real the world is outside of Christmas :)
Click to expand...

I totally agree... That's what books and playing with other kids are for :)

To tell the truth I was raised to believe in Santa, I was an inquisitive kid, and figured it out when my parents accidentaly put a present from Santa out the night before christmas (when my parents usually put their presents out). I confronted Mum, she admitted the truth, and that was it. No big deal, it made sense to me.

But I also remember a girl in grade 6 who had been harassed to the point of crying by some kids about still believeing in Santa. To look at that situation it pisses me off. It wasn't the girls fault she had been lied to for 12 years by her parents, but she had to cop the shit for it. And she was all indignant, like "Why would my parents tell me that if it wasn't true?". I'm sure everyone as a kid can remember that your parents were infallible and you would defend them to the death in the playground.

But then again I just thought of an argument for telling your kids about Santa. Preparing them for the great myth of life. For example when they are eight you can say, "You know that Santa stuff I've been feeding you for the last 7 years? Well it's all lies. And that's life. Get used to disappointment."

:)
 
Last edited:
I will teach my kids the 'psychedelic secrets of santa claus'......when they're old enough. Our history has been rewritten and i think its unfair to continue the charade, that and i dont want a little brat who wants all this shit given to him on one particular day because its what the toy store has told me 'thats how we do it'.

It reminds me of giving chocolate for easter, now what the f*ck has giving away something not even discovered by our ancestors untill 1492 got to do with the suposed raising of a dead messiah?? it just dont add up, our spirituality has been replaced by the handing of gifts and all thaught behind such acts has been lost. to me it just seems that its been designed for kids and prays on parents that dont want their kids 'to miss out'.

Great reading on santas true past.......
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3136.html
 
Last edited:
Sllip said:
My parents never told me about Santa, and they never bought me any presents, and neither will I.

If your kids find out that you are lying to them then they will never believe you again. Treat them like an adult and cut them no slack. This is how I was brought up and I'm a much stronger person for it. No matter how you bring up your kids they are going to hate you when they become teenages, so you may as well arm them with strength.
Click to expand...

i never hated my mum or my dad!!!! i dont understand how anyone ever could unless they treated u like shit..... i was raised to believe in santa, and by the time i was old enough to realise it was bullcrap, i was also old enough to understand WHY they did it..... my parents have never actually told me its not true, im 19 and if i go ask my dad he will still tell me that its santa who drinks the beer and eats the cheese and biscuits every night (gee, santa and my dad have the same favourite foods, what a co-incidence)

its great to still get into the theme even now, i love christmas and what the ideal of santa represents...... i plan to raise my children pretty much how i have been raised, and that includes santa and the tooth fairy
 
^ I actually told my parents I stayed up and saw the tooth fairy. They must have been pissing themselves laughing about afterwards :)

I guess I was lying to them as well. What a twisted cycle of events.
 
Of course. Growing up believing in santa is one of my most cherished memories of childhood. It was never a case of me "finding out" that santa didn't exist, i'm not sure when i really made the connection, but it wasn't that big a deal when i did. Probably around age 7 or 8.
 
Raz said:
No offence, but how do you know you're so much stronger for it when you've never experienced it the other way? You're entitled to your own opinion of course, but where do you draw the comparison from?
Click to expand...

None taken, but how do you know how strong I am? Those who know me well, know how strong I am, and I put that down to my parents being very harsh but fair throughout my childhood. No birthdays, no easter, no christmas, no presents, no handouts. My Dad tells me I had it easy becasue I lived in a house my entire life.

Oh and I the whole teenage angst comment was made as a gross generalisation. Can anyone say Kevin and Perry?
 
Originally posted by jakoz
Growing up is a continuous ritual of losing your suprises in the world and finding out the truth of things. And the fact is: who's happier now than when they were little?

Knowing might be nice, but dreaming is miles better.

Easily the best thing I've read in this thread.
 
Santa'a not real??

My son believes in santa.... I actively encourage the belief in santa.... there's a time when he will naturally come to understand its not true, as I did.

Let kids be kids and enjoy a little bit of joyful fantasy... there's plenty of time later for the reality's of this world.

my 0.02c

now the Easter Bunny... thats pure evil..... a rabbit that lays eggs pffft as if! ;)
 
^^ The bunny carries the eggs, he doesn't lay them 8( That's what the basket is for.

Still.... a rabbit who walks on his hind legs and carries a basket is also kind of an evil image. Almost Donnie Darko-esque really. ;)
 
I never even gave a thought as to whether or not I would raise my children to believe in Santa. I guess I would've just gone along with the whole Santa thang, seeing as I was brought up to believe in Santa (as well as the tooth fairy and easter bunny). But after reading this thread, the decision seems a lot harder, as there are so many things I hadn't thought about.

Does one let their children believe in Santa, running the risk of the future possibility that their children may resent them for lying to them?

Or does one deprive their children of a little magic and childhood fantasy?

I say let kids be kids, and let them enjoy a little magic, mystery and fantasy, and enjoy being able to believe in things that all too quickly become lost in the rush of growing up. Childhood is a time for being happy and carefree, and I believe santa can only add to this.
 
Some people are too anal about this. Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy etc. is fun, that's it. If I have children, I don't want to treat them like adults, because they're not. They're more than entitled to a few years of blissful naivety. When I realised the truth about Santa et al, I didn't resent my parents for it. I figured I was growing up, felt good about that, and saw how fun it was while it lasted. There's nothing malicious in treating your children to something fun.
 
No way he's a fascist owned by Coke (who resembles a ku-klux-klansman)! Annual giftman for me and my kids!
Click to expand...

=D hahaha nice one!

lostpunk5545 said:

Also I would like to teach my future children to think objectively, to always question what they are told, and never to just believe in something just because - that said they will be free to form their own beliefs even if they are in opposition to mine.

I would also like to teach my children the intrinsic value of nature over man. To me Santa is just more sociological baggage our species is carrying around. I want my children to find value in things like feeling cool grass beneath them as they sit under a tree on a summers day, to find value in a blade of grass and the ant crawling on it. To find value in knowing about the world around them.
Click to expand...

They are some of the most important values that i teach him. To love the world he lives in, to explore it, to respect it and to always search for the answers. I NEVER give him the answers. I give him the tools to find his own. Parenting is not about being "boss" it's about being a "guide" I won't show him what doors to walk through but i hope i have raised him well enough that he knows he has a choice WHICH doors he can go through. :)

People meet my son and they say things like ...

"He has wise eyes"

"he's been here before"

"he looks after you doesn't he?" hehehe (we are a team so thats very much true :)

I'm really proud of my little boy. To me you can tell that he's comfortable with who he is and his place on the planet and at nine years old i reckon thats just fucking awesome. The pride i have in him as to who he is when people say "I see so much of you in him" makes me want to cry with happiness because i'm proud of who he is and i had a major part to do with that. I'm proud that i'm like him, not that he's like me and i tell ya what it's enough to make a mums heart explode .... twice =D
 
I always used to think my parents were cheapskates cos I got all these presents from Father Christmas, and all these other presents from my grandparents and relatives, but my own Mum and Dad didn't get me anything at all! Bastards!

So make sure you chuck "from mum and dad" on at least one of the gift tags in amongst the "from father christmas" tags (which you write in scratchy scribbled writing to disguise the real identity). Otherwise your kids will think you're a tight arse like my parents were until I found out the truth!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top