Will my doc give me benzos ?

[paranoid android]

That's great you were in a controlled environment

I wouldnt call it a controlled environment. personally i was actually treated better in jail that oe time i was arrested as they actualy gave me my meds there. I got no meds not even a asprin for coming off 6mg of clonaz and 150mg of IV morph a day. It was brutal

 

[lost weekend]

I've explained in previous posts regarding Morpheus

 

[Señor Moreno]

Thanks

She gave me seresta because she told me that the drug leave your body very quickly so you can take one to take off the anxiety without fucking your day because you tired. I will give it a try but i saw that seresta can be a bit long to take effect so i will try it normal and sublingual and if it takes too many time i will ask her for something a bit faster who also leaves your body quickly ( sry if i maje english mistakes)

I didn't know that Seresta brand but I googled it and I learnt that it's oxazepam.
It's not the best option for panic attacks, it's a metabolite of diazepam- with shorter half life- but as you said it takes time to take effect. Diazepam related stuff are great for muscle and body relaxation, but they aren't the most suited benzos for anxiety(clorazepate being maybe the exception). Panic attacks are horrific and they need something that hit fast and hard, alprazolam works much better.
I get your doc wanting to play it safe, but 0.50mg Xanax, here and there and only when needed, would be more hepful in your situation.
Anyway oxazepam is much better than nothing, that's for sure.

If you're i the north of Europe I would suspect they would try a SSRI like (es)citolapram first, but they might prescribe you pregabalin(Lyrica)

Agreed. If you, OP, keep having anxiety issues, them docs will offer you to try pregabalin very, very probably. Look out and be alert: for some reason that I don't know pregabalin has not the same taboo as benzos and doctors are much more prone to prescribe it in some countries. They label benzos as addictive - and they are- but it seems that they think that pregabs aren't, but they are. Wds from pregabalin are a very nasty reality that I happened to learn the hard way.

I don't know if you said what euro country are you from? Cause that it's key regarding benzo prescription matters.

 

[WellTram]

It is getting hard to be prescribed benzos in EU but i have 80x10mg diazepam pills every month from my doc. I wanted to switch back on alprazolam because it is a lot cheaper but for some reason he thinks that in my case, diazepam is the best option.
And he also prescribe 60x25mg promethazine pills.

But i heard how he refused to prescrice 0,25mg xanax for one person and he was quite angry when patient asked for lowest dose of benzo but he has no problem prescribing me benzos for 13 years now.

 

[chippermonk]

Just to condense what I said a bit since you got your script. DO NOT -> take back to back days, do not take more than once a day, do not take a higher dose than prescribed.

Not taking back to back or twice in the same day is good advice for pretty much any drug if you want to avoid problems. Congratulations on your self control!

 

[Slightly_Paranoid13]

Hey @mazse

When I first saw this thread title, I was pretty sure I was gonna have to close it. The thread has done well in not turning it into a ¨how-to¨ guide for acquisition. Benzodiazepine prescriptions have dropped precipitously over the past couple of decades. 20 years ago, when I was in High School, I knew at least a dozen kids who had scripts like: 60mg Amphetamine (Adderall) + 3mg-4mg Alprazolam (Xanax) and or Clonazepam (Klonopin) per day. Doctors were willing to write. It was more dependent upon whose parents were willing to ¨trust the process¨ and whose parents did their research and knew better.

I had a friend when I was in High School. I´ve mentioned him before. I honor his legacy as best I can by highlighting the wrongs done to him. He was one of those kids. He was eventually getting 80mg IR Adderall and 4mg Alprazolam per day. He was getting it in 3 month increments, believe it or not. He would just show us a fucking large ziploc bag ful of his pills. His Mom never even checked after they were delivered.... crazy. We all loved it because he would sell some, give some etc. He ended up pretty twisted from these medications. The doctor lost his license and my buddy lost his pills. Within a year or so, I found out he blew his brains out with a shotgun during a party. I absolutely place a lot of blame on these people for his death.

Benzodiazepines are one of those things that society at large sees as essentially harmless, doctors portray as more harmful yes, but still not harmful enough and those of us who know, either through experience or second-hand experience know to be one of the most insidious and harmful drugs out there; insidious as their effects are potent, yet subtle. I compare the whole thing to the Event Horizon of a black hole. They say there is a point at which a space ship could no longer escape the blaclk hole, even if it did not see that way to those in the ship; essentially, when you realize it is serious enough to begin trying to get away, you are often too far in.

Panic Attacks are a condition for which Benzodiazepines are still prescribed, yes. This is one of the few indications that I believe in for Benzodiazepines. If you only take a pill once or twice a month, there is a good possibility you could maintain the utility of your medication for a long time. It is really up to your doctor, but if you are only asking for two pills a month, you seem trustworthy and are good at making appointments, it is within reason.

I believe this is how benzo's are supposed to be taken with the knowledge that we now have about them. I have been on the same as-needed benzo prescription for years without a change in anything: dose, amount taken, number of pills each month, etc. I take the smallest dose they make and when I do have a legit panic attack, I take one, and can't even tell I took anything except being able to think much more clearer. When I get panicked, my mind get's frazzled and I cannot think. They are a Godsend if you have legit panic attacks. When I was younger, the doctor had me on a benzo everyday because I wasn't tolerating the SNRI's he tried me on. Taking it everyday made it lose it's magic in about a month. After that, I was just taking them to not have rebound anxiety. Then the tolerance set in and had to be prescribed more and more. Plus, I believe it contributed to a depression I had at the time. Now, I understand that there are special cases where a daily benzo is the best medical option for some and not bashing anyone for that. I am just sharing the experience I had with them.

Another thing I've noticed is when I go through trauma and I have nothing to take the pain away, I grieve, pray, get angry, maybe even let out a good cry. I eventually get over the trauma, and doesn't take long. Now, if I have a ton of pills that take away all of my pain and anxiety, I never get over the trauma because I don't grieve. It just sits in the background until I am sober and in minor withdrawal and then it shows it's ugly face and it's just as traumatic then as it was when it happened. This has happened multiple times and have accepted it as a fact now.

My advice to anyone on benzos is to take the lowest dose possible to mitigate your symptoms. I would even go as far to say let there be some symptoms present so that you actually have to deal with them in a healthy way. I find that the gabapentenoids are the best for this. They don't completely take away all anxiety like a medium/high dose of a bennzo does, but it takes a down a notch to the point to where it is bearable.

 

[RUC4]

Hey,
I’m 18 years old and I live in Europe. I’m planning to see a doctor soon about recurrent panic attacks that I’ve been experiencing for over a year.

They started after a particularly stressful event. At first, I had significant anxiety, episodes of derealization, and strong hypervigilance toward my physical sensations. Over time, my baseline anxiety improved significantly, and I no longer feel particularly anxious in everyday life.

However, I still occasionally have panic attacks that can become extremely intense and difficult to control. Breathing exercises, grounding, relaxation techniques, and other strategies I learned from a psychologist can help to some extent, but sometimes they are not enough once the attack becomes severe.
I previously saw a psychiatrist who prescribed Tercian (cyamemazine) to take occasionally. I used it very rarely, but during severe attacks it mainly made me feel physically sedated while the anxiety itself remained present.

The main thing I would like to understand before seeing my doctor is how realistic it is that I could be prescribed a benzodiazepine for these situations. I’m not looking for regular treatment or daily medication, since my baseline anxiety is currently manageable.

I would mainly like to have an effective backup option for the rare occasions when I experience an exceptionally severe panic attack.
Would someone my age with this history realistically have a reasonable chance of being prescribed a benzodiazepine, even in a very limited quantity for occasional emergency use, or is this generally unlikely in Europe because of the risks of dependence and the fact that I’m only 18?
For thoses in Europe who has been prescribed benzos for anxiety do you think i will be prescribed benzos or my doc will find another solution ?

because you're not looking for something to take daily, your doc might give them to you. i think the biggest worry is dependence. but if you're not taking them regularly, that's not a risk.