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Opioids will i still withdraw

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FLdisaster

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I hope someone can can answer this, so i was on roxys for about 2 years like 2-3 sometimes 4 a day then someone suggested i could use methadone to rapid detox so i did for 6 days but then when i ws done i mustve did it wrong and i then started to detox from the methedone, it wasnt all that bad mind you i just hadnt planned on that and here it was thanksgiving week so i held out 3 days, by now i was clean 11 days from blues or roxys and 3 days from the methadone, but i had family comming that i couldnt let see me sick so i got some blues for the next 3 days, my question is am i gonna go through the withdrawls again? its been 13 hours since my last line of blue and im not feeling all that bad, is the worst yet to come??
 
i think you shouldnt do the rest but keep them for when you withdraw because youre probably going to. do 1 for a couple days then do a half for a couple days then i would stop after that cause 15mg isnt much. GL man glad youre getting off blues.

edit: oh and FL represent yeah!
 
well they are already gone, yesterday was the 3rd day and i really didnt try to taper or anything, i did like 3 yesterday and i figured i have to just deal with it, im done with the shit i just didnt want to have to reveal to the fam what was goin on at all, pretty sure they wouldnt buy the ol flu excuse again. im disapointed for sure, but just a little scared and worried about goin through withdrawls again, i have 2 small kids to deal with so i dont get to just hide out and lay around for a few days.
 
Yes you will probably withdraw. The withdrawals will likely not be as severe or as prolonged as you've experienced in the past but you will probably feel shitty for a day or two. If you want to get it over with as quick as possible I'd recommend some benzos but if you want to minimize the sickness and don't mind drawing it out a bit, I'd taper with loperamide (OTC imodium AD). If you're interested in this PM or search around, its been discussed a lot.
 
Loperamide gave me the WORST stomach ache of my entire life, I will never take that shit again. If you were withdrawaling before taking them, yes you will prob w/d after they're gone.
 
^I felt that as well but found if I took an anticholinergic with it (I preferred doxylamine) that it countered this effect.

OP- instead of replying to your question privately here are some basics. Loperamide is an opioid with negligible central effects at therapeutic doses but when you take much larger doses, it can relieve opioid withdrawal symptoms and some even find it somewhat recreational (most do not).

I would start with about 10 pills with a little benadryl or unisom and take another 2-4mg every 20-30 min until you feel alright. As was said, this will likely alleviate your withdrawal symptoms but also prolong the physical dependency. In your case, I'd probably choose to feel shitty for a day but if you want to taper with lope instead, the option exists.
 
No matter what you are going to suffer a little bit, no matter how you withdrawal. It's great to have benzo's on hand for sleep and that horrible anxiety, but you want to be careful with those too, as they're a worse addiction withdrawal wise.

Sometimes under certain circumstances it's better to hold off on detoxing for a time when it wont get you in so much trouble. Of course not everyone has that luxury, I'm just saying, If I had the choice of detoxing during thanksgiving, or the means of using my DOC through thanksgiving to keep me straight, I would use my DOC, and then detox during a less stressful time..
 
I started my sub detox on Nov 13, hoping I'd be done by thansgiving heh. Ended up using lortabs to survive thanksgiving. Currently back in withdrawals.
 
thats weird... last day was the 13th... ate a couple Lortabs to survive?? I think u were prolly doing pretty damn good if all u needed was lortabs, not a benzo or anything for the anxiety.. i think you're doing what most of us addicts do... GET IN OUR OWN HEAD! .. UR eff'n DONE once u make it 3 days... the rest is on u.. eat sum fuggn ibprofuen and man up...

How long have you been on suboxones for?? u get loaded on them??? i sure dont on the 8mg tabs i have prescribed to me... Im day 3 clean off black, and 36hrs clean from my last sub dose of 4mgs... Ive been using halfs of Klonopins 2mgs to get my through the day... but i feel fine.. Im thinking about dabbling in the last piece of dope i have got hidden here... Took some damn will power to not use that while withdrawaling lol...

For some reason, maybe its just me... i know it sounds crazy, but i think its easier to quit Heroin knowing that you have some available, must be a psychological thing of 'knowing its here and not having to go chase down the Cubans for something'... but once u eat that suboxone its pointless to use it... until youre through your withdrawls 3/4 days later and then maybe dabble a bit again. I wouldnt think it would send u back into withdrawals if u dabble A LITTLE after the 3 or 4th day clean
 
Well I stopped my sub on the 13th, jumped off of 4mg a day, didn't taper or anything. The first week was absolute fucking hell, bad anxiety, insomnia and all the other normal w/d shit. I started taking clonidine to even out my temperature cause I was so fucking hot but freezing. The clonidine worked for about 3 hours and then I was having anxiety & panic again really bad and the hot/cold issues. So I took another clonidine out of desperation, then in 3 hours the same thing happened so I took another. This went on from 6pm to 7am with a total of 5 pills taken.

That next day I felt horrible, couldn't stand up without blacking out and falling down. I felt groggy and just dead. I didn't take anymore clonidine until that night at 9, I started gettting hot again and said fuck it and ate another. I ate 2 more over the course of the night so 8 total in the last 2 days. The next day was Friday, so 6 days into my detox. I stood up to go to the bathroom, blacked completely out and fell down on the ground and my body convulsed like I was having a seizure. When I finally came out of it I just started sobbing and said I think I need to go to the hospital. So my bf took me to the ER and they took blood and whatever and found out I was pregnant, heh. They also gave me ativan and trazadone for sleep (well that was before they knew I was pregnant, I got a call after I got home about it) so the passing out was even worse cause I had a baby taking all my nutrients (which I wasn't getting very many to begin with) plus i'd taken way too much fuckin clonidine.

So the ativan helped greatly, the weekend goes on, Sunday morning my stomach starts hurting way bad. I go to the bathroom and I'm bleeding, a lot. Obviously I'm now miscarrying so back to the ER where they gave me a shot of morphine and a script of lortabs. Heh. So I took the tabs from monday-Thursday. (For pain and to be able to function/see fam on thanksgiving) and now I'm. On day 3 of no more opiates but its been over 2 weeks since my sub dose. I was prescribed it, for 9 months and took 1/4th of a pill in the morn and 1/4th at night as told by my doc.

Heh so no lortabs weren't all I needed, I'm currently taking ativan to help. But I had to take the tabs if I wanted to leave the house heh. I'm also hoping I'm about done with this shit as it has been over 2 weeks without suboxone.
 
yeah u should check mypost in this thread.. Im so sorry about your misscarriage, i couldnt imagine. Hope your boyfriend isnt a full blown addict doing shit around you... but yeah im using Klonopin 2mgs a day... and see i havnt been a heavy user, and my doctor gave me a script of subs .. 20 of them 8mg's.. 1 to 2 times needed daily .. for the first week.. then wing off... i thought he was nuts... so i sold 10 of them, and ate halves... lol ..

But im at the point now, its been 38hrs since my last 4mg of suboxone.. im curious if i could take my methadones for the pain in my knees and what not and actually get the euphoria from them as well?? Or is the other chem in the subs still going to block it??
 
Nah my bf is not an addict at all, he rarely drinks, quit smoking cigs last new years... he's been the main person supporting me getting off the subs.

I took a pain pill on day 2 of my detox (full 48 hrs) and I felt it. It was just a measly 10mg lortab too. I don't have any knowledge about methadone/suboxone tho.
 
Out of curiosity subdetox what mg clonidines were you taking? When im in withdrawal I pop those clonidines like candy as well, but never had any problems with blacking out or nothing like that and I find they actually do help.
 
Just 0.1, the smallest dose but like I said it made A LOT more sense when I figured out I was pregnant. Blacking out is common when your pregnant anyways if you're not eating enough/getting enough vitamins because the baby robs you of your nutrients. I hadn't eaten for several days when I went to the ER and yeah the clonidine was really just making the pregnancy/detoxing situation worse. It was already bad on its own and then lowering my blood pressure was the end of it. It was pretty scary to be honest, I haven't touched the clonidine since because I'm scared of getting light headed again lol.
 
well im at the point.. im 40hrs since my last 4mg dose.. im curious if i took a couple 10mg methadone and a 2mg klonopin if i would feel any euphoria from it?? Or would the suboxone still be blocking??

I know its diff for everyone, but should i give it a shot now? 40hrs since my last 4mg dose of suboxone...
 
Subliminal*420 said:
well im at the point.. im 40hrs since my last 4mg dose.. im curious if i took a couple 10mg methadone and a 2mg klonopin if i would feel any euphoria from it?? Or would the suboxone still be blocking??

I know its diff for everyone, but should i give it a shot now? 40hrs since my last 4mg dose of suboxone...
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why are you hijacking peoples posts?
 
wow, sorry not like that... i was actually talking with her still... but GG, y worry about it?? Im chatting with a lady i feel her same pains.. isnt this wat this is all about?? asking other addicts for help, and being able to relate to them?

how bout u shoulda prolly just answered and it woulda moved on?? instead ur prolly loaded and bein a dick.. GG! .. ass
 
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