Will i see a decent government before i die?

[HealingEnergy14]

Jesus fuck. Who needs dog whistles when you have naked racism at home?!?

EDIT: But to answer your question… why shouldn’t “Africans” rule their own countries? For exactly the same reason Britons should rule Britain. Or are “Africans” somehow different?

Naturally, Africans should also rule over their own countries. What is "racist" about that? There's enough space on this earth for everyone I think.

 

[new2drugs]

Sounds great eh? Am sure Farage is a man of his word...a veritable bastion of accountability and integrity

You are his exact target audience. New to thinking as well as to drugs it appears. Am not dissing you, just an invitation to think harder mate and have a good look at the conditions and rhetoric which have facilitated facism previously and you may well begin to see certain patterns...you're being played like a fiddle, it's terrifying really.

I definitely don't have the answers and may not even believe a political solution is possible anymore without some kinda mass raise of consciousness. I am however 100% certain that far-right ideology is the road to hell, and make no mistake whatsoever, Reform are most definitely that. A hate cult really, deeply fucked in the head.

And with that I'm out of this conversation, gave up on this stuff couple of decades ago. Have at it. Good weekend to you.

I said before, I'd rather have Nigel in charge of the economy than Keir. Keir doesn't have a clue about these things. It may still not be fixable but how can you not like things such as:
i)taking the lowest out of tax
ii) addressing business rates
Iii) protecting NHS
Iv) having difficulty conversations with France
V) reducing overseas aid

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Naturally, Africans should also rule over their own countries.

various first world countries mining/garbage management/whatever companies didn't get the memo stating this.

 

[Shambles]

Naturally, Africans should also rule over their own countries. What is "racist" about that? There's enough space on this earth for everyone I think.

Then what was that bollocks about “White Europeans” should still be running African countries?

 

[Shambles]

Let's see if you can find some of that. BNP certainly did as did the NF. Reform..can't find any

As noted in your quotes, I was talking about Healing Energies post about “White Europeans” running African countries.

Why so sensitive about racism accusations? Guilty conscience?

 

[Shambles]

Let's see if you can find some of that. BNP certainly did as did the NF. Reform..can't find any

Reform are just the BNP with a more charismatic leader and much, much better media presence. Their policies are all but identical.

Right wing populism always promises the moon onna stick to “working class Englishmen” citing generic “immigrants” as the cause of all our woes.

Once in power they proceed to somehow forget these promises instead focussing on tax cuts for the rich, suppression of minority rights and, most importantly, power creep.

Authoritarianism is the inevitable end product. The current Trump regime is a classic example of precisely that.

I don’t want that for my country. I want class consciousness not identify politics. I want true justice for working class people. I want the rich to pay their dues. I want equality for all Britons.

Reform offer none of this. They simply offer platitudes and sophistry. Pablum for the simpletons. Are you a simpleton? I very much hope more for you.

 

[HealingEnergy14]

Then what was that bollocks about “White Europeans” should still be running African countries?

I did not say that? I asked you why did White Europeans give control of the governments of Africa back to Africans if in your view "Africans" don't really exist because we're all the same as humans.

Every nation should be controlled by their own people, just as I control what happens in my house and you control what happens in your house.

 

[new2drugs]

What's this about starmer supporting Israel

 

[new2drugs]

Reform are just the BNP with a more charismatic leader and much, much better media presence. Their policies are all but identical.

Right wing populism always promises the moon onna stick to “working class Englishmen” citing generic “immigrants” as the cause of all our woes.

Once in power they proceed to somehow forget these promises instead focussing on tax cuts for the rich, suppression of minority rights and, most importantly, power creep.

Authoritarianism is the inevitable end product. The current Trump regime is a classic example of precisely that.

I don’t want that for my country. I want class consciousness not identify politics. I want true justice for working class people. I want the rich to pay their dues. I want equality for all Britons.

Reform offer none of this. They simply offer platitudes and sophistry. Pablum for the simpletons. Are you a simpleton? I very much hope more for you.

There's no hope for you if U think the bnp are the same as reform.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I did not say that? I asked you why did White Europeans give control of the governments of Africa back to Africans if in your view "Africans" don't really exist because we're all the same as humans.

Every nation should be controlled by their own people, just as I control what happens in my house and you control what happens in your house.

Who are "our own people?" What's the qualification for being English/British?

Are we not 'governed' by English/British now?

Super simple questions - help me to understand your position

 

[M1sterEd]

Government like religion tells you what you and cannot do. It seems to me only a portion of society needs this type of direction / interference to make their lives meaningful. Everyone else is fully capable of making decisions and being accountable.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Government like religion tells you what you and cannot do. It seems to me only a portion of society needs this type of direction / interference to make their lives meaningful. Everyone else is fully capable of making decisions and being accountable.

Sweet I'll just fund the NHS myself then.

Cant believe I didn't think of this sooner

Viva la anarchy!

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Full disclosure for the uninitiated I am an insatiable shitposter and not to be taken seriously.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Government like religion tells you what you and cannot do. It seems to me only a portion of society needs this type of direction / interference to make their lives meaningful. Everyone else is fully capable of making decisions and being accountable.

If only this were the case...I think it's pretty obvious that it is not the case though - just look at the 'decisions' the public has made in recent years and how easily they have been manipulated into such (you don't have to look too far to see how gullible we are

 

[new2drugs]

David Nutt for PM.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Maybe just change your whole own opinion, so for me.
Good shit we are a tax paradise for big company s, easy money.
Fuck those stupid 2-nd world country s, we are overpopulated anyway.

Good my country itself don t abide its Law, it gave me the dis-ability stigma.
Not work, still pay. Maybe it would be better if i knew from the start anyone.
With a job will screw you or stab you in the back.

But that is OK now, as after asking up my record s and connecting the dots.
Its clear whatever happened would lead to this course. And now i am free.

And around, payed with blood money i can invest in drug s.
To numb what s lost or left, together with you. Ain t live grand.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Am looking forward to the decimation of the nhs, massive tax breaks for the rich, the benefit cuts, the zero-tolerance policing, the emboldment and empowering of the lunatic-hate fringe into tolerated violence, the huge fines for drug-possession (and the mandatory life sentences for any dealing) when Reform do come to power (as I anticipate that there is a real possibility of). And that's just for breakfast...

 

[new2drugs]

Am looking forward to the decimation of the nhs, massive tax breaks for the rich, the benefit cuts, the zero-tolerance policing, the emboldment and empowering of the lunatic-hate fringe into tolerated violence, the huge fines for drug-possession (and the mandatory life sentences for any dealing) when Reform do come to power (as I anticipate that there is a real possibility of). And that's just for breakfast...

That's labour you mean

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I sense communication impossibility, so I'll just leave this here instead. Good luck all.

"Welcome to the oceans in a labeled can, Welcome to the dehydrated lands,
Welcome to the south police parade, Welcome to the neo-golden age,
Welcome to the days you've made
You are welcome, You are welcome
Welcome, Welcome, You are welcome, You are welcome."

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Good luck everyone

Good luck all.