Will i see a decent government before i die?

[new2drugs]

True… but the underlying issues of extreme racism within the party and its supporters remain…

Personally, I don’t find cuckoldry an appealing trait in a politician… but finding one that isn’t is kinda tricky…

Id quite like to categorically and undeniable see some of these racist quotes. Can never seem to find one ....and I don't mean someone saying something like " oh we need to stop the boats cause their all illegal people invading blah blah" - that never mentions race, and it's true they are illegal.

Looking for some quote where someone goes on record saying something awful about skin colour or similar.

 

[Shambles]

Do I really have to explain the meaning of “dog whistles” to you???

Not to mention Reform councillors - their own chairman even - leaving the party due to racism and/or misogyny.

Bury your head in the sand all you like, the Reform Party is home to many, many bigots.

Are they all bigots? Probably not.

Are all their supporters bigots? Certainly not.

But are a significant and worrying number of both bigots? Absolutely yes.

 

[new2drugs]

Do I really have to explain the meaning of “dog whistles” to you???

Not to mention Reform councillors - their own chairman even - leaving the party due to racism and/or misogyny.

Bury your head in the sand all you like, the Reform Party is home to many, many bigots.

Are they all bigots? Probably not.

Are all their supporters bigots? Certainly not.

But are a significant and worrying number of both bigots? Absolutely yes.

Well he's back and on BBC question time which I'm about to watch on catch up TV. Will let you know after.
I doubt he would join or rejoin if they were racist.

 

[Shambles]

Nope, not even for power and achieving his political goals… amazing what principles a person can sell out for their own craven goals

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Well he's back and on BBC question time which I'm about to watch on catch up TV. Will let you know after.
I doubt he would join or rejoin if they were racist.

Nope, not even for power and achieving his political goals… amazing what principles a person can sell out for their own craven goals

 

[new2drugs]

Nope, not even for power and achieving his political goals… amazing what principles a person can sell out for their own craven goals

Well I just watched question time.

Cut foreign aid
Stop spending on hotels
Raise income tax threshold to £20k
Scrap net zero ( for now anyway)
Keep NHS free at point of use

I'm sold. Whichever party that said this I'm voting for.

 

[HealingEnergy14]

Do I really have to explain the meaning of “dog whistles” to you???

Not to mention Reform councillors - their own chairman even - leaving the party due to racism and/or misogyny.

Bury your head in the sand all you like, the Reform Party is home to many, many bigots.

Are they all bigots? Probably not.

Are all their supporters bigots? Certainly not.

But are a significant and worrying number of both bigots? Absolutely yes.

Wanting the English to have their own country is being a bigot now? Seriously what's wrong with you mate?

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Well I just watched question time.

I'm sold.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Wanting the English to have their own country is being a bigot now? Seriously what's wrong with you mate?

Can't see where he said that?

Do you disagree with anything he actually did say? Because that post looks like 100% fact to me

Who are "the English" by the way? Who is allowed to stay exactly? What's the bottom line qualification? Genuine question

 

[Shambles]

Wanting the English to have their own country is being a bigot now? Seriously what's wrong with you mate?

As noted, I said nothing about “The English” having their own country. That would seem kinda de facto a fact. Who else “has” England?

Besides, the UK is not just England. Whilst Little Englanders are as bigoted as ever, those of us who do not reside in England often think differently. Do our voices not count? Are you so fukkin racist you even hate the non-English parts of Britain?

 

[HealingEnergy14]

As noted, I said nothing about “The English” having their own country. That would seem kinda de facto a fact. Who else “has” England?

Besides, the UK is not just England. Whilst Little Englanders are as bigoted as ever, those of us who do not reside in England often think differently. Do our voices not count? Are you so fukkin racist you even hate the non-English parts of Britain?

Okay, since you want to talk semantics, how about Britain should be for the British. Are you against that too?

 

[HealingEnergy14]

Can't see where he said that?

Do you disagree with anything he actually did say? Because that post looks like 100% fact to me

Who are "the English" by the way? Who is allowed to stay exactly? What's the bottom line qualification? Genuine question

Who are the "Africans"? Why should White Europeans no longer rule those countries in Africa?

 

[Shambles]

Okay, since you want to talk semantics, how about Britain should be for the British. Are you against that too?

Once again you totally missed the point…

I live in Scotland. Scotland roundly rebuffs the inherent racism of Reform and related parties.

Having lived in Wales I experienced far, far less racism than in England.

The point I was making is that “The English Problem” is just that: English. And England is not the entirety of the UK.

This is precisely why the SNP have won every election since devolution. Different parts of the UK feel very differently about immigration compared to England.

I don’t think I can make it any clearer…

 

[Shambles]

Who are the "Africans"? Why should White Europeans no longer rule those countries in Africa?

Jesus fuck. Who needs dog whistles when you have naked racism at home?!?

EDIT: But to answer your question… why shouldn’t “Africans” rule their own countries? For exactly the same reason Britons should rule Britain. Or are “Africans” somehow different?

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Who are the "Africans"? Why should White Europeans no longer rule those countries in Africa?

How about attempting to answer my question instead of deflecting by asking another?

Who are "The English" to whom you refer? Who stays, who goes, and why?

You made the statement so I presume you can answer the simple question

 

[new2drugs]

Jesus fuck. Who needs dog whistles when you have naked racism at home?!?

EDIT: But to answer your question… why shouldn’t “Africans” rule their own countries? For exactly the same reason Britons should rule Britain. Or are “Africans” somehow different?

You seem to think everything is a bit racist.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

I have noticed quite a many people being racist and facist.

Like, everywhere I go, someone proceeds to introduce themselves as such, basically just to provocate and intimidate or because they consider it important to spread racism and facism. This is 2025.

 

[Shambles]

You seem to think everything is a bit racist.

Nope. Just the blatantly racist stuff tbh.

Do you co-sign this idea that “Africans” should still be under colonial British rule?

No? We’ll why wouldn’t you? Is it possibly because it is genuinely jaw-droppingly racist?

Yes? Then you, sir, just crossed the Rubicon from Reform-curious chap looking for easy answers to complex problems to outright bigot.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Well I just watched question time.

Cut foreign aid
Stop spending on hotels
Raise income tax threshold to £20k
Scrap net zero ( for now anyway)
Keep NHS free at point of use

I'm sold. Whichever party that said this I'm voting for.

Sounds great eh? Am sure Farage is a man of his word...a veritable bastion of accountability and integrity

You are his exact target audience. New to thinking as well as to drugs it appears. Am not dissing you, just an invitation to think harder mate and have a good look at the conditions and rhetoric which have facilitated facism previously and you may well begin to see certain patterns...you're being played like a fiddle, it's terrifying really.

I definitely don't have the answers and may not even believe a political solution is possible anymore without some kinda mass raise of consciousness. I am however 100% certain that far-right ideology is the road to hell, and make no mistake whatsoever, Reform are most definitely that. A hate cult really, deeply fucked in the head.

And with that I'm out of this conversation, gave up on this stuff couple of decades ago. Have at it. Good weekend to you.

 

[new2drugs]

Nope. Just the blatantly racist stuff tbh.

Do you co-sign this idea that “Africans” should still be under colonial British rule?

No? We’ll why wouldn’t you? Is it possibly because it is genuinely jaw-droppingly racist?

Yes? Then you, sir, just crossed the Rubicon from Reform-curious chap looking for easy answers to complex problems to outright bigot.

Let's see if you can find some of that. BNP certainly did as did the NF. Reform..can't find any