Why isn't Ecstasy legal?

[Legerity]

Truth if socitey can accept gay marriages and gay people might as well accept drug users, as long as it stays only to them not affecting/ effecting others around them.

However, thats not the case as people become too dependent on the drug it becomes there sheild and without it they will do anything for it thus creating a problem for the enviorment around them. If drugs didnt have that negative effect I'd be all about people doing what ever they wanted. However, thats not the case drug abusers and addicts do insane things and blame it on the drugs no. I blame it on the user their descion to take __________ substance therefore they should be responsible for their actions and not be able to blame it on the substance they were on.

This is quite a generalization. People can do any activity to the point of harming themselves and others, it is not something specific to drug use. Many drug users are informed about the substances that they take, and know how to minimize or eliminate potential problems.

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

this should be made into a poll...
although it is in ED, so I think pretty much everyone would say yes, so it wouldn't be a proper representation of the views of Bluelight.

I for one think that yes it should be, the same as all drugs.

Yes, even cocaine and heroin...regulation means better product, less deaths.

FUCK PROHIBITION.

 

[roganmaster]

If MDMA were made legal, then companies would start producing pure MDMA to sell. It would be held to even higher quality standards than alcohol. Doses would be regulated and exact. If companies made MDMA, there would be no need for a black market on ecstasy, meaning pills would no longer be cut with adulterants and the sketchy labs that produce MDMA in basements and third world countries would cease to exist.

The government would be able to profit off taxation of MDMA sales instead of spending money to pay for "criminals" to rot in a jail cell.

MDMA could be used for more research and we could learn more about how it works on the human body and brain. This could ultimately be used to progress our health care system just in terms of how much more we know.


I think that a lot of drugs should be made legal, but I'm also very liberal minded and not everyone would agree with my standpoints.

 

[Keaton]

It can't be legal. Not with out every other drug being legal as well. Thats just how it works.
Btw, the government doesn't pay for those inmates. The tax payers do. About $72 a day (in California), thats the low end of the spectrum. That was a few years ago too, so I'm sure the rates have increased.
Source: Did a report on the three strikes law in Cali for my research project in the 10th grade.

 

[deano88]

It should be 100% legal to use and posses with a doctor's prescription. MDMA is much less dangerous than many other pharmaceuticals, and can be safely used by responsible adults under a doctor's supervision.

So your saying that it should only be legal if the doctor prescribes it? What exactly is that gonna change as 99% of people who take it now take it for fun

 

[Rolexxx]

Dont worry, Gents. I fully intend on founding my own Utopian country. All Drugs will be legal. All sex will be legal. There will be no guns (island country). Only bow and arrows and knifes (we're going oldschool). Our number 1 export will be marijuana and hot bitches. whos down?

 

[roganmaster]

It can't be legal. Not with out every other drug being legal as well. Thats just how it works.
Btw, the government doesn't pay for those inmates. The tax payers do. About $72 a day (in California), thats the low end of the spectrum. That was a few years ago too, so I'm sure the rates have increased.
Source: Did a report on the three strikes law in Cali for my research project in the 10th grade.

tax payers should not be paying to have criminals who commit drug related crimes. possession and sale of a substance that someone chose to be illegal is not a crime. murder, theft, and rape are crimes. simply putting something in your body to feel a certain way should not be criminal.

 

[BEEF/N/BROKLY]

Of course it should be legal. Why should the government regulate our personal behavior? The only damage MDMA does is to yourself. How many people have you seen get violent or get in a car crash from using too much MDMA? Why should we pay our tax dollars to house non-violent MDMA users in prisons with hardened sociopaths? I can 100% guarantee if MDMA switched places with alcohol the crime rate would significantly go down. Plus, making MDMA legal for responsible adults would actually cut back on a lot of the harm because most of the harm comes from street cocktail pills cut with many other dangerous substances. How many people die off straight pure MDMA? If the world used MDMA once in a while it would be a better place

are you serious???? Im talking bout far as violence goess, niggas out here rollin be cocky as hell thinkin they superman fightin OD, and i know pill heads who prolly popped 1000s++(proly 5-20 daily) and long term after they stopped they be losin it, like be completley normal den fuckin snap OD, and Im talkin about niggas maybe like 27-36(most of which been poppin 3-10years+) and a lot told me they wasnt so prone to snap till after E. so in a sense yea some people may not fight rollin others fight great(common here as it makes u confident), but the long term toll is real.. U dont have to take my word for it, and Im all for legalization of drugs in general as it would allow us to get safer substances(well not really safer I can get pure pills or bd or w/e really) but more consistant actual product and not as much side/cut product, but to say violence is not an outcome is not entirely true.. ON the defense however, i know an OG pill head who CAN NOT GET MAD, and before he used to be aggressive, and he would always say I dunno if da pills did something to me, but I cant get mad for notttthin.... he stills fights tho, but doesnt go into rage or anything really.. guess it cud be hit or miss really, u might get holes in the part dat gets u mad thus no anger, or u might get holes in ur logic and just snap OD lol. But drugs as a whole should really be legal.. I mean you know how less of a toll coke(n I dun do dat shit but some my niggas do) in a pure is(yea good ish make u bleed or w/e sometimes but still better pure den cut wit anything like dat poultry dewormer)... same wit MDMA in full form and not cut wit pipes or w.e meth n bullshit you're doing less of a toll or atleast knowing the extent of the damage unlike some no name pills u gotta get tested n lose a lil bit of da pill doin, and plus once u got da pill mo fuckas usaully gonna pop it once its payed for in hand u dig... so yea legalize it! ALL OF IT... only downside id say is less money for us in da hood cause niggas gon be buyin dat shit online n not on corners word is bon br

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

all drooogs should be elgal
that is all

 

[Keaton]

tax payers should not be paying to have criminals who commit drug related crimes. possession and sale of a substance that someone chose to be illegal is not a crime. murder, theft, and rape are crimes. simply putting something in your body to feel a certain way should not be criminal.

You are absolutely correct. Which is why in my report, I chose to take the side of changing the three strikes law to not include crimes where drug possession was the biggest offense. It's bullshit really. Why should I have to pay to imprison a guy that wanted to get stoned? Write him a ticket for doin it in public, then send the dude on his merry way. Don't lock his ass up for the rest of his life.
/rant

 

[roganmaster]

You are absolutely correct. Which is why in my report, I chose to take the side of changing the three strikes law to not include crimes where drug possession was the biggest offense. It's bullshit really. Why should I have to pay to imprison a guy that wanted to get stoned? Write him a ticket for doin it in public, then send the dude on his merry way. Don't lock his ass up for the rest of his life.
/rant

Haha definitely. It's a personal choice to get high. Like the article states, "no law will ever stop people from wanting to get high." But we can certainly put laws in place to ensure that getting high will be safer than buying cut drugs from sketchy people. I'd love to see a lab grade pill containing 100mg of MDMA that was set to the same quality standards that we have for alcohol. Every time I buy a 5th of vodka, it's going to be exactly the same every time. Why can't MDMA be produced like that?! :D

 

[Vader]

Btw, the government doesn't pay for those inmates. The tax payers do.

So you're saying that when the government spends money...that comes from taxpayers? OMG I never realised!

 

[k.kat]

Definately, then we would get what it says on the label,

 

[junkie skumbag]

yes i do i have seen alchole do alot more damage than MDMA i have never seen anyone get agro depreesed on mdma.if mdma where legal i garunte that there would be a whole lot less if any fighs/agro in town on friday or sataday nights on avrage i see at least 3 fights a night whenn i go to town but if they were servin X rather than piss in town it would be a whole diffrent story but on the other other hand when people go out they take drinking the the extream and i expect thats what would happen with X if that were made legal and then i think we would see some negative effects

 

[rickolasnice]

Btw, the government doesn't pay for those inmates. The tax payers do.

They're the same thing? Government money = tax money = government money

 

[cjthizzface17]

in my opinion ecstasy should be legalized but yet with certain restrictions. i know that mdma can be harmful if abused, and im all for spacing rolls. but think about how many people abuse alcohol? it definately shouldnt be up to the government to decide what we can put in our bodys or not. and to think that people who just want to enjoy being high on ecstasy are criminals is jus straight up bullshit. at least decriminalize it if anything.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think it should definitely be decriminalised, not really sure about legalisation. however if they were legalised then education could more legitimately concentrate on harm reduction, and i think as a whole that would benefit society more than attempted prevention.

the difficulty of legalisation with restrictions, is that there would still be a black market.

on balance, given that the reasons for it being illegal are political rather than public safety related, i'd say legalise it. any laws made just to pander to certain parts of society rather than through reasoned debate unfairly alienate the rest of society and, IMO, undermine the democratic process.

 

[AndroidsDreamofBTC]

Of course it should be legalized. If people are allowed to essentially to exploit other people do get some extra $$$, then I should be able to use my $$$ to fuck myself up if I want to. Plus with legalization, we'd wouldn't have to worry about things adulterants and there would be more cool underground EDM parties.

I am surprised how many people are supportive of strict 21 age limits. You guys are ridiculous. You can drive since you're like 14 and kill people when you're 18 (what else is the department of defence for? For 'Defence'?? lol), but you can't drink or use MDMA till you're 21? Teenagers are going to want to do this kind of shit and none of this "you're not mature enough" BS isn't going to stop them.

The best solution is to have a formal age limit, but not to implement draconian enforcement like in the US. $400 fine and mandatory drug courses for drinking a fucking beer when you're 18. Fuck that!

 

[Dahli]

I am surprised how many people are supportive of strict 21 age limits. You guys are ridiculous. You can drive since you're like 14 and kill people when you're 18 (what else is the department of defence for? For 'Defence'?? lol), but you can't drink or use MDMA till you're 21? Teenagers are going to want to do this kind of shit and none of this "you're not mature enough" BS isn't going to stop them.

The best solution is to have a formal age limit, but not to implement draconian enforcement like in the US. $400 fine and mandatory drug courses for drinking a fucking beer when you're 18. Fuck that!

Like my dad always said, "If at 18 I'm old enough to take a man's life, I should be old enough to have a beer."

That said, I think MDMA does take a certain amount of responsibility to use. And that responsibility is more user centric than age centric. I've known 21 year olds who were eating E pills constantly, and I've known 15 year olds who follow a strict once a month policy.

It's also about education. In school they just showed us the drug and said "Don't do this!" If they had told us WHAT it does, the harm it causes, and how one might use it responsibly if they so chose to, then maybe people wouldn't go absolutely fucking nuts when they find out "Holy shit! Drugs make you feel GOOD. I must TRY THEM ALL!!!"

I still don't think that MDMA should be 100% legal and sold at pharmacies. Abuse of it just causes too much damage to one's body, and because of that, essentially, they'd probably have to make the drug prescription only and difficult to obtain. MDMA isn't Marijuana. It can't be used on a day to day basis with little to no repercussions. I personally still want to enjoy my MDMA, and making it completely legal would probably make it so I couldn't.

So the best us recreational users can hope for is to decriminalize it... which is a slippery slope for the government. They make a lot of money off non-violent criminals patiently sitting in a cell. Well, at least the prison companies do, and they influence a lot in the government. But maybe with this whole move to legalize Marijuana, and the drug re-education that's going on through the internet, we'll see some sort of change. Maybe...

 

[roller11dude]

Wow can't believe so many people think MDMA (or any other drug for that matter) should be illegal. Like someone mentioned the government shouldn't be able to punish us for only damaging ourselves. More research could be done and proper harm prevention studies could probably make MDMA harmless (bundle it with the proper dose/instrustions of ALA, deprenyl, ALCAR etc...) The only social problem that would come is abuse, but thats already somewhat of a problem. So basically nothing would change except the government would save millions on housing non-violent drug offenders and being able to finally say goodbye to the DEA and narcotics branches (and turn them over to stop violent criminals), would earn money by selling drugs, which could then be put into research a abuse programs. I'm 18 and about 80% of people I know have tried MDMA, and 90% of them are responsible with it, not binging or doing it to frequently. Just because there are people who are irresponsible and will ruin their lives over a drug, doesn't mean the government should spend billions on propaganda and law enforcement, which in reality only makes the problem worse.