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Why isn't Ecstasy legal?

I believe that MDMA use should be decriminalized, as with most other drugs, but not made legal. No reason to put simple users in jail other than to expose them to harsher environments that may encourage harder drug use or more violent behavior.
 
No way. I know too many people that I care/cared about that have gotten their brains scrambled due to the stuff. Myself included. But... if it were legal, I guess the government would control it and it would be less dangerous (due to poor binders / impurities). Also we could tax that shit. Might as well get rid of the drug dealers. But wait... then the government would be profiting on peoples addictions or indulgences... hard question man. There are nearly endless amounts of factors that come into play in this discussion.
 
I would say to decriminalize it as well, but the fact that theres people who abuse/have abused MDMA (such as myself) keep it under the "dangerous drug list". But in reality, I would have to say FUCK NO to that.
 
I think all drugs should be decriminalized including MDMA. There's no sense in punishing users of a drug as the effects are mostly exhibited on their body alone. MDMA shouldn't be completely legal as the damage from abuse is much to great. It would be awesome to see clinics like MAPS wants where you can have MDMA sessions (or another psychedelic.) MDMA's therapeutic potential is so very great. I would love to be a psychologist who is allowed to have MDMA therapy sessions with their patients.
 
If people are going to take drugs, they will take drugs.

The war on drugs has failed, miserably. It's causing more bad than good (funding criminal gangs, spreading crap information to try and sway people from drugs, impurities causing problems, etc etc)..

It's time to make drugs legal, educate people (both good and bad sides) and have some sort of control over them (age limits, etc..)

I read somewhere.. it's easier for kids in america to ecstasy than alcohol.. because alcohol has age restrictions..

I'll say it again.. if people are going to take drugs, they will.. wether they're legal or not.
 
I don't see why the government thinks that what people put into their own bodies is any of their business. If there's no victim, then there's no crime. All that is acheived by making drugs illegal is the creation of a black market, which leads to all sorts of violence that wouldn't exist in the absence of the drug war. Hell, my parents are from Colombia, and I will guarantee you that country would be FAR less violent in the absence of the drug war, since a) the cartels wouldn't exist, and b) the guerilla forces would not be able to use drugs to fund their activities, since in the absence of the drug war the price of drugs would drop dramatically.

And compared to a lot of drugs, MDMA is mostly harmless, especially if you take the risk of the pills being cut with something nasty out of the equation. The large majority of people that die from taking ecstacy didn't die from pure MDMA. Forcing a bunch of harmless people who just want to get high and have a good time to turn into criminals in the eyes of the law is fucking ridiculous.
 
It should stay illegal as much as I love the drug MDMA, it is too offently abused. I read numerous reports making me thinkg WTF are wrong with these people. Im glad its hard to obtain that way, less abuse can be had. No point in the drug being avaible to anyone, sure there is that arugement that it can help with the drug violence. However, there is more drugs out there than just say MDMA so it would be rather pointless to make it legal hoping to cut down on any crime invovling the drug you see with those benzo pellets people are going ape shit over them and its legal.

Anyways, long time use and abuse of the drug MDMA can be serve leading to many issuses down the line so logically it makes little to no sense for it to be made legal. Sure it may have a benefit for people suffering from PSTD but weed should be made legal before that, as it has more benefits for people with cancer and etc.

Overall it boils down to what would socitey be like if it were legal, well it would be abused easliy. So I doubt we will ever see MDMA legal. However, in the future it might be perscribed and that is the only way justified for any legality.
 
It is ridiculous for drug use in itself to be considered an illegal activity. Humans have been using substances to alter their consciousness before laws even existed. Why should the government get to decide that certain substances are okay, while others are not?

Let's see...alcohol, caffeine, and cigarettes, all legal. Alcohol keeps people unconscious, caffeine lets us work efficiently, and cigarettes slowly kill us without interfering with our day to day functioning. What benefit do these substances have other than numbing us or keeping us productive? On the other hand, psychedelics and MDMA have the ability to experience another level of consciousness that is otherwise difficult to achieve.

There seems to be a belief that the illegality of drugs actually prevents abuse, which is ridiculous. Doesn't everybody remember alcohol prohobition? Well that's what's going on now, we have violent gangs running the drug trade and providing products that are cut and mixed with anything. This isn't a problem with drug use itself, it's a problem with our society and laws.

It's especially surprising for people who use MDMA themselves to say that they think it is appropriate for them to be considered criminals 8)
 
It should be 100% legal to use and posses with a doctor's prescription. MDMA is much less dangerous than many other pharmaceuticals, and can be safely used by responsible adults under a doctor's supervision.
 
Yes, I do. See, they wouldn't have to prescribe a whole bottle at a time. If ecstacy was being manufactured again, you'd see high quality pills in circulation , because people would sell them. The problem is, the only way I see them legalizing it, is if it was to be taken right before therapy...individual, or marriage counseling, like they used to use it. I do agree that it should be decriminalized at least.
 
I think it should be legal with restrictions. No one under 18 can legally use/possess it (maybe even 21 like alcohol). No driving or doing other dangerous tasks under the influence. The consequences for these two scenarios should be as harsh as they are now for possessing ecstasy--felony offense.

It should definitely be available for use in psychotherapy, end of life care and other medical purposes--no questions asked. Should it be available at the local corner store? Not in my opinion, but that's debatable like anything else. I don't personally think alcohol or tobacco should be as available as they are either, as they're more physically harmful than moderate MDMA use.
 
Another positive thing that would come with legality and educations if the fact that more people will know what to do when someone takes too much (or has a bad trip).. therefore potentially saving alot of peoples lives (or psyches).

Also, it will become more common knowledge dangerous interactions drugs have with others..
 
No Consequence said:
There are some people who can be affected by it negatively, actually. Depending on if something happens that day or during the roll..
I don't ever want to see this drug legal lol.
There's already way too much abuse.
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Would you ban people from sun bathing?

Would you ban fatty foods?

Everyone should have the right to do to themselves whatever they want to do to themselves.
 
I think it should be legal but very regulated. MDMA is quite dangerous if abused but if used correctly it is fairly harmless. In my perfect world of fair drug laws, I think a prescription system should be put in place in order to obtain it. If someone wants ecstasy (or other drugs), they would have to take a class to educate them on how to use it responsibly (spacing rolls, proper dosage, drinking water...). After completing the class, they would get their "ecstasy license." With the license, they would be able to legally purchase it, but only in small quantities to avoid illegal resale, similar to the way prescription medicine is given out now. Also, there would be an age restriction of 21 or older.
 
rickolasnice said:
Would you ban people from sun bathing?

Would you ban fatty foods?

Everyone should have the right to do to themselves whatever they want to do to themselves.
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Truth if socitey can accept gay marriages and gay people might as well accept drug users, as long as it stays only to them not affecting/ effecting others around them.

However, thats not the case as people become too dependent on the drug it becomes there sheild and without it they will do anything for it thus creating a problem for the enviorment around them. If drugs didnt have that negative effect I'd be all about people doing what ever they wanted. However, thats not the case drug abusers and addicts do insane things and blame it on the drugs no. I blame it on the user their descion to take __________ substance therefore they should be responsible for their actions and not be able to blame it on the substance they were on.
 
^ There's a difference between drug use and drug abuse.

If drugs were legal, they would be regulated, and people would be more clued up.. over time it will become a cultural thing that people learn to respect drugs and to not abuse them.

Another thing.. think of the money wasted on the drug war.. in the UK it's about 1.5 billion pounds a year.. That could be going on education, health care, etc.. especially seeing as that 1.5 billion has done NOTHING to stop drug supply / use.. infact.. drug use has gone up..
 
Wolfy90 said:
Truth if socitey can accept gay marriages and gay people might as well accept drug users, as long as it stays only to them not affecting/ effecting others around them.

However, thats not the case as people become too dependent on the drug it becomes there sheild and without it they will do anything for it thus creating a problem for the enviorment around them. If drugs didnt have that negative effect I'd be all about people doing what ever they wanted. However, thats not the case drug abusers and addicts do insane things and blame it on the drugs no. I blame it on the user their descion to take __________ substance therefore they should be responsible for their actions and not be able to blame it on the substance they were on.
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That's exactly the point, though - government shouldn't hold the drugs responsible for the way that people choose to do them. If you buy MDMA and use it in an irresponsible way (for example, driving while you're rolling), that is fully your fault, and the punishment should be no different than it is for driving while drunk. Of course some people would use it irresponsibly - hell, some kids drink irresponsibly and then end up in the hospital or dead, but it doesn't mean alcohol needs to be banned. It just means that people need to be made aware of how to use drugs safely, and the black market sure as hell doesn't do that.
 
I think if it were legal there would be less ODs, and it would be regulated. If there wasn't so many shitty pills with a lot of cut in them, then i think it would be a lot safer for EVERYONE.
 
I think it should be legal, and if it were regulated it wouldn't have adulterants in it, just good pure ol' MDMA. Then they could spread awareness of how to safely use MDMA, if people are smart they'll listen, if not they won't, it would be like that legal or not.
 
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