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Benzos Why does it take me 10-15 xanax bars to get high?

^^ I do it all the time. I didn't say "take 5 mgs of alprazolam and drink 3 bottles of wine"

A lot of people mix benzos and alcohol frequently, and a lot of people get into trouble because of it. You might have done it without issue 29 times, but that doesn't mean the 30th run will be fine.

The more obvious issue with your comment though, is that you're making the assumption that because you've done it without problems then it'll be OK for someone else. And I don't think the specifics (ie. what benzos, how many milligrams, how much alcohol, etc) really matter. There is no guaranteed safe dose when it comes to mixing benzos and alcohol.

Mixing benzos and alcohol is one of the most dangerous drug combinations possible because the outcome is highly unpredictable. People can do some crazy things on alcohol alone, but the mental faculties responsible for self-preservation dissolve rather suddenly when benzos are added in.

Blackouts are another serious issue. Generally, people need to drink until they can hardly walk to attain a true blackout from alcohol alone, but with benzos in the mix blackouts are suddenly much more possible. It's frightening how little alcohol is required to send someone over the edge when they've consumed benzos.

Trying to chase a high with benzos is futile at best and dangerous otherwise. If you're one of the people who gets recreational effects from benzos then it's going to happen at a small dose. Taking ten or twenty times more isn't suddenly going to change the whole experience for the better. The OP is already wasting his/her time and putting themselves at risk, and I'm afraid that suggesting that he/she add alcohol into the mix (even if it's meant as a joke) is sending them further into the danger zone.
 
"40mg - of Clonazepam did nothing" Unless you have been on 2mg of klonopin and abusing your script for years with xanax that's impossible. Are there just fast metabolizers of benzos?

You CANNOT get high on benzos. It is a subtle feeling of calmness and contentedness. It might feel like a high if you have an anxiety disorder... but otherwise, I think your searching for a unicorn. You'll never get high, and if you feel nothing from 40mg of clonazepam, you need to either take as prescribed or stop.

Wow I can't believe this thread is so popular. Thanks for the answers guys, & although I haven't been through them all I want to address this. I can get high on Brazos but ONLY Xanax. I'd like to add I'm on Methadone, so it does get me high. I swear on my life, I've taken 20 2mgs of klonolpin, with the same effect as taking 1mg. Yet I continue to try & take mb 8mgs(of Klonopin) when I first get my script. Waste,since I take 2 mgs a day & it does the exact same thing. And I haven't been abusing them like crazy for years. Xanax WILL get me high but I have to START with 10mgs(5 bars) & I get the high I want around 30mgs(15bars.) It's crazy but true. I actually took 35 .5mgs the other day(17.5mgs) & it was okay. But my bf didn't notice I was high which means I wasn't that high because he's on high alert(he hates it when I'm "high" off Xanax. He did say once "did u take any bars today?" I said NO, & he believed me(which he usually doesn't ) if I'm high, but I've been good & took like 6 months off. I still take my rxed 2mgs of Klonopin/daily, but NO Xanax. I got shorted on the. 5Mgs & I know the girl so she's bringing me 3 bars tomorrow's, but I had to tell her I'd need 10 more bars(13) because I don't feel 3.
 
how the hell did you not pass out with 40mg clonazepam

are you on a huge benzo binge and blacked out right now as you post this?

Nonono, I'd also like to state I have anxiety too,pretty bad. My Dr just uped my kpins to 6 mgs/day. He wants me to switch to bars, but I won't because I know what exactly will happen, I'll take all 90 in one week, be fucked & have to just buy joins(not to mention it'd make my tolerance way high & thus need more Klonopin (to not get sick.) AND with the prices of Benzos just going up & up here in good ol' Hartford I just can't afford it.
 
You can get high off benzodiazepines, people are doing so right this very moment all over the world. They're one of my favourite types of recreational drugs and that goes for many other people too. Some people however don't find the feeling of certain types of benzos (or all types of benzos) enjoyable. Benzodiazepines work in a similar way to other drugs of abuse like alcohol, qualones, phenibut etc - however often they can be quite subtle in their effects and so some people only enjoy them in combinations or don't enjoy them at all as a result of this.

Different benzodiazepines bind to different GABA subunits in different amounts and each of these subunits when bound to produces different effects, for example the a1 subunit produces the most sedation of all the subunits along with anti-convulsant effects (though all of the subunits produce this effect to some extent), while subunits a2 and a3 are more responsible for anxiety reducing "lightening up" and loosening up of social inhibitions.

People with anxiety, depression, stress, or who've experienced a lot of any of those in their lives get very enjoyable highs from ben
zos selective for a2 and a3 subunits, and anxiolytic benzos like Diazepam
produce great highs for them -
while someone who has never had any anxiety or stress issues might find they just get muscle relaxation and nothing more.

a1 selective benzodiazepines on the other hand are more likely to produce euphoria in the general population, things like Flunitrazepam, Temazepam, Midazolam - the benzodiazepines that are k
nown for being euphoric even to people who generally don't enjoy benzos all that much. They're also very popular among opiate users because the combination produces more potentiation than combining with anxiolytic benzos does (this is a dangerous combination to anyone who isn't already aware, just thoughad t

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Now to answer the original poster:

Anyway my personal experience with Clonazepam was that it was very strong when I had zero tolerance to benzodiazepines, very very strong in fact, and 0.5mg had me melting into my chair, 1mg had me so tired I had trouble keeping my

eyes open, and 2mg certainly knocked me out every time - and it was always very pleasurable. Ever since I got a tolerance to benzos though even taking 6, 8 or even 10mg doesn't do anything but make me tired, and even then only a little. With tolerance I found Alprazolam did little for me too. It's worth noting that my tolerance was built up by using Clonazepam just as yours was - so it's likely Alprazolam has similar binding affinities for the different GABA subunits to Clonazepam, and this is why you're getting little/no effects from it - either that or you simply have a very high tolerance to all benzos at this point.

If it's the former, benzodiazepines like Diazepam might be more preferrable, if it's the latter you should really consider tapering off slowly and giving yourself some time to lower your tolerance again before getting back on benzodiazepines, as if you're not getting good effects until these kind of dosages then you really need to lower your tolerance soon or you're going to run into some real problems.

That said there are other possibilities here too. Firstly there's a lot of fake Xanax going around that looks like the real deal, so if it wasn't sold to you in a blister pack, don't be assured that it's actually Alprazolam even if it looks identical to the real thing, it could be something else, and the dosages in the fake pills (regardless of what's in them) vary a lot. Secondly another possibility is the Methadone.

I know that sounds weird, since benzodiazepines potentiate opiates - but that's just it, in my experience that's the way it works, the opiate feel gets stronger, but you don't really feel the benzos much (or at all) you feel a stronger opiate high.

I've taken massive doses of benzos combined with opiates before (again please don't do this it's incredibly risky and could get you killed very easily) and while I'd get a good nod going the benzos didn't seem to "work" in their regular way and I thought there was something wrong with me and that I'd suddenly become tolerant to benzos despite the fact I wasn't using them at all at the time. A few days later I took 1/4 of the same dose of benzos with no opiates and noticed a very strong effect that I wasn't even ready for - it seems the opiates were just blocking out the feel of the benzos.

Just a few things to bear in mind.

You know your shit. Thanks. I DO get high, I just have to take 10-15 bars. The methadone definitely helps. If I take 6 bars right after I dose I'll feel it, whereas if it's 7pm @ night, I won't even feel it, so I don't bother until the next day. Another thing I'd like to add is sometimes I don't think I'm that fucked up, but my bf will say I was beyond fucked up. I also tend to shoplift(I know,weird) on slot of Xanax. And I don't nor
 
Damn phone, sorry guys. Like I was saying I never normally shoplift because I have bad anxiety. But when I'm on a Xanax "high" I'll rob Walgreens blind. So I have to stay away from stores when taking Xanax(high doses.) And to everyone warning me about bcoming addicted,that ship has sailed. I'm addicted already. But I did go to detox 2 years ago(a freaking 21 day detox!) & they used diazapam. It worked, stayed clean for about 8 months. But when I relapsed I still had a tolerance! Is that possible? Do you think once u grow a huge tolerance it stays? I did cut down big-time, like I said. 6 months-no Xanax. Yet the tolerance was still there. And I know people love benzos + alcohol, but I hate it. And it'd be really risky(Methadone & alcohol & Xanax) I don't wanna end up dead. But I kid you not 10 bars & I won't even pass out(makes me a little tired though.)

But I just refund weed(well a year ago) I had stopped for years because of my anxiety. But with the kpins no paranoia or anxiety. It's really reduced my BAD cravings for Xanax.
 
A lot of people mix benzos and alcohol frequently, and a lot of people get into trouble because of it. You might have done it without issue 29 times, but that doesn't mean the 30th run will be fine.

The more obvious issue with your comment though, is that you're making the assumption that because you've done it without problems then it'll be OK for someone else. And I don't think the specifics (ie. what benzos, how many milligrams, how much alcohol, etc) really matter. There is no guaranteed safe dose when it comes to mixing benzos and alcohol.

Mixing benzos and alcohol is one of the most dangerous drug combinations possible because the outcome is highly unpredictable. People can do some crazy things on alcohol alone, but the mental faculties responsible for self-preservation dissolve rather suddenly when benzos are added in.

Blackouts are another serious issue. Generally, people need to drink until they can hardly walk to attain a true blackout from alcohol alone, but with benzos in the mix blackouts are suddenly much more possible. It's frightening how little alcohol is required to send someone over the edge when they've consumed benzos.

Trying to chase a high with benzos is futile at best and dangerous otherwise. If you're one of the people who gets recreational effects from benzos then it's going to happen at a small dose. Taking ten or twenty times more isn't suddenly going to change the whole experience for the better. The OP is already wasting his/her time and putting themselves at risk, and I'm afraid that suggesting that he/she add alcohol into the mix (even if it's meant as a joke) is sending them further into the danger zone.

yes you're right (I disagree that there isn't a safe dose but I absolutely agree on everything else) and I shouldn't have told this to the OP, I just wanted to pointed out that benzos + alcohol is fun but this is a HR board and some people could read my post and get hurt.
thanks :)
 
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Thank you, ComfortablyNumb, for that perfectly rational and reasonable response to my post. It's so nice when two people can have a different opinion without taking it as a personal attack. Damn refreshing, in fact. Cheers!
 
I just want to add as to the benzo+ alcohol deal 3 things.

1. I lost a friend of mine to this combo

2. An acquaintance of mine is serving a 12 yr sentence thanks to this combo

3. This combo has landed me in the hospital twice, once with a concussion and once in physical restraints followed by a shot of haloperidol and a subsequent vacation in a psychiatric ICU.

It's dangerous. Yeah it can be fun, but IMO, not worth the risk.
 
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