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Benzos Why does it take me 10-15 xanax bars to get high?

jeng1128

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OK guys, I know the standard answer would be because you got your tolerance so high from taking so much, but that's not what's going on here. I get rxed 2mgs of klonopin a day from my DR. And I take that as prescribed. Which brings me to another question, I can't get high off kpins. I've tried, taking 40mgs(Yes 20 2mg klonopins) @ one time & it did nothing. Pretty much why I stick with them w my Dr because I could get Xanax but I know those 90 would be gone in a week. So my bf HATES me taking bars so I don't get to do it often. But yesterday I saw someone I knew & bought 10 bars. Now I haven't taken bars in 5-6 months & have been sticking with my 2-3mgs of klonopin per day. I was so excited(I'm on methadone, and Yes I know how dangerous it is.) I hardly felt them. I was pissed. It was actually 9 bars(she shorted me one on accident) but is gonna give it to me today. And there's no point in taking 1, so I'm gonna spend another $60 on Xanax today. But I probably won't get another chance anytime soon. Has anyone ever had this problem before? ?Thanks ??
 
"40mg - of Clonazepam did nothing" Unless you have been on 2mg of klonopin and abusing your script for years with xanax that's impossible. Are there just fast metabolizers of benzos?

You CANNOT get high on benzos. It is a subtle feeling of calmness and contentedness. It might feel like a high if you have an anxiety disorder... but otherwise, I think your searching for a unicorn. You'll never get high, and if you feel nothing from 40mg of clonazepam, you need to either take as prescribed or stop.
 
i have this [problem with clonazepam. when i foolishly used to try to find that benzo "high" with clonazepam i have taken up to 20mg at once and it felt no different then taking 1mg. no sloppiness, ataxia, etc... but other benzos, like ativan or xanax, definately will have me black out fucked up after 5 or 6 mg
 
Different people have different reactions to different drugs. Obvious statement but it's especially true for benzodiazepines...for some people benzos suck because, like you said, you can't "get high" with them, or their anxious/non-anxious brain just doesn't respond to the drug strongly for whatever reason, while a smaller subset of users get enslaved by them. I can't even imagine taking 40 mgs of clonazepam and not feeling SOMETHING, though, even if that something is your head slamming on your pillow as you pass the fuck out.

I don't know, I find that low doses of benzodiazepines are very therapeutic and useful for a number of situations, while large doses of benzodiazepines just make people act really stupid.
 
Benzos never got me high at all so I figure why take huge doses to try and reach a high that never comes. Kinda like suboxone.
 
Clonazepam is not a very "recreational" benzo, generally people consider xanax the recreational benzo (note: I don't condone benzo abuse, only stating what I know), and while I do have to doubt the doses you listed as being far too high for anyone, everyone's body is different. Some people have told me that benzos give them energy, others tell me that a tiny amount knocks them out. Everyone is different and their bodies can react differently than most.

As Burnt Offerings said, benzos at low doses are good for their medicinal purposes. I have very severe anxiety, OCD, and a slew of other diagnoses. Without my daily dose of benzos I wouldn't be able to leave my house. And in my wilder days, I would take large amounts "to get fucked up", and all that resulted in was blackouts and incidences ranging from awkward to very bad.
 
how the hell did you not pass out with 40mg clonazepam

are you on a huge benzo binge and blacked out right now as you post this?
 
I know you said you know but be careful with a methadone script and testing your limits with 9 bars at once. The two shouldn't really be mixed, at least not in massive quantities that you haven't tested!
 
I know you said you know but be careful with a methadone script and testing your limits with 9 bars at once. The two shouldn't really be mixed, at least not in massive quantities that you haven't tested!

No shit. You're looking death in the face, and a quick blackout on benzos is just such an event which could make death manifest for you. (IE you keep taking more, maybe more methadone/alcohol whatever).

Stop trying to get high off benzos.
 
OK guys, I know the standard answer would be because you got your tolerance so high from taking so much, but that's not what's going on here. I get rxed 2mgs of klonopin a day from my DR. And I take that as prescribed. Which brings me to another question, I can't get high off kpins. I've tried, taking 40mgs(Yes 20 2mg klonopins) @ one time & it did nothing. Pretty much why I stick with them w my Dr because I could get Xanax but I know those 90 would be gone in a week. So my bf HATES me taking bars so I don't get to do it often. But yesterday I saw someone I knew & bought 10 bars. Now I haven't taken bars in 5-6 months & have been sticking with my 2-3mgs of klonopin per day. I was so excited(I'm on methadone, and Yes I know how dangerous it is.) I hardly felt them. I was pissed. It was actually 9 bars(she shorted me one on accident) but is gonna give it to me today. And there's no point in taking 1, so I'm gonna spend another $60 on Xanax today. But I probably won't get another chance anytime soon. Has anyone ever had this problem before? ��Thanks ����

If you are not habitually addicted to benzos, stop for a tolerance break and reset. I have been RX benzos for 4+ years now, 8/4-4mgs of klonopin and xanax to 3mgs of just klonopin for the last year. If I don't take any kpins for a couple days I will have a grand mal seizure... Benzo addiction is deadly!! There is no glowing euphoria with benzos, GABAgerics don't work that way, they simply relax you. Xanax I am able to feel due to it's quick onset and power. You must chill out on chasing benzos, there is no reward. Stay safe, stay informed!
 
You must chill out on chasing benzos, there is no reward. Stay safe, stay informed!

The award is only for anxiety sufferers, but there really isn't a high. I've done dumb shit chasing, or should I say stumbling down that path. No reward, no high, disinhibition, loss of motor function (ataxia), and retrograde amnesia is all you will get.

Oh, and as ^ mentioned, a dependency if you keep going.
 
"40mg - of Clonazepam did nothing" Unless you have been on 2mg of klonopin and abusing your script for years with xanax that's impossible. Are there just fast metabolizers of benzos?

You CANNOT get high on benzos. It is a subtle feeling of calmness and contentedness. It might feel like a high if you have an anxiety disorder... but otherwise, I think your searching for a unicorn. You'll never get high, and if you feel nothing from 40mg of clonazepam, you need to either take as prescribed or stop.

You can get high off benzodiazepines, people are doing so right this very moment all over the world. They're one of my favourite types of recreational drugs and that goes for many other people too. Some people however don't find the feeling of certain types of benzos (or all types of benzos) enjoyable. Benzodiazepines work in a similar way to other drugs of abuse like alcohol, qualones, phenibut etc - however often they can be quite subtle in their effects and so some people only enjoy them in combinations or don't enjoy them at all as a result of this.

Different benzodiazepines bind to different GABA subunits in different amounts and each of these subunits when bound to produces different effects, for example the a1 subunit produces the most sedation of all the subunits along with anti-convulsant effects (though all of the subunits produce this effect to some extent), while subunits a2 and a3 are more responsible for anxiety reducing "lightening up" and loosening up of social inhibitions.

People with anxiety, depression, stress, or who've experienced a lot of any of those in their lives get very enjoyable highs from benzos selective for a2 and a3 subunits, and anxiolytic benzos like Diazepam produce great highs for them - while someone who has never had any anxiety or stress issues might find they just get muscle relaxation and nothing more.

a1 selective benzodiazepines on the other hand are more likely to produce euphoria in the general population, things like Flunitrazepam, Temazepam, Midazolam - the benzodiazepines that are known for being euphoric even to people who generally don't enjoy benzos all that much. They're also very popular among opiate users because the combination produces more potentiation than combining with anxiolytic benzos does (this is a dangerous combination to anyone who isn't already aware, just thought I had to add that on the end).

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Now to answer the original poster:

Anyway my personal experience with Clonazepam was that it was very strong when I had zero tolerance to benzodiazepines, very very strong in fact, and 0.5mg had me melting into my chair, 1mg had me so tired I had trouble keeping my eyes open, and 2mg certainly knocked me out every time - and it was always very pleasurable. Ever since I got a tolerance to benzos though even taking 6, 8 or even 10mg doesn't do anything but make me tired, and even then only a little. With tolerance I found Alprazolam did little for me too. It's worth noting that my tolerance was built up by using Clonazepam just as yours was - so it's likely Alprazolam has similar binding affinities for the different GABA subunits to Clonazepam, and this is why you're getting little/no effects from it - either that or you simply have a very high tolerance to all benzos at this point.

If it's the former, benzodiazepines like Diazepam might be more preferrable, if it's the latter you should really consider tapering off slowly and giving yourself some time to lower your tolerance again before getting back on benzodiazepines, as if you're not getting good effects until these kind of dosages then you really need to lower your tolerance soon or you're going to run into some real problems.

That said there are other possibilities here too. Firstly there's a lot of fake Xanax going around that looks like the real deal, so if it wasn't sold to you in a blister pack, don't be assured that it's actually Alprazolam even if it looks identical to the real thing, it could be something else, and the dosages in the fake pills (regardless of what's in them) vary a lot. Secondly another possibility is the Methadone.

I know that sounds weird, since benzodiazepines potentiate opiates - but that's just it, in my experience that's the way it works, the opiate feel gets stronger, but you don't really feel the benzos much (or at all) you feel a stronger opiate high.

I've taken massive doses of benzos combined with opiates before (again please don't do this it's incredibly risky and could get you killed very easily) and while I'd get a good nod going the benzos didn't seem to "work" in their regular way and I thought there was something wrong with me and that I'd suddenly become tolerant to benzos despite the fact I wasn't using them at all at the time. A few days later I took 1/4 of the same dose of benzos with no opiates and noticed a very strong effect that I wasn't even ready for - it seems the opiates were just blocking out the feel of the benzos.

Just a few things to bear in mind.
 
^^ well I guess it depends on what you exactly mean by "high".
clonazepam for example, even at 4 mg with absolutely no tolerance, never got me "high".
yes, there definetly was some subtle feeling going on but I wouldn't call it a high (bear in mind I do enjoy benzos).
but it sure made for some fun nights (including risking my very life)
 
^^ well I guess it depends on what you exactly mean by "high".
clonazepam for example, even at 4 mg with absolutely no tolerance, never got me "high".
yes, there definetly was some subtle feeling going on but I wouldn't call it a high (bear in mind I do enjoy benzos).
but it sure made for some fun nights (including risking my very life)

Same.

But it isn't a "high," like if you dropped some hydrocodone/oxy, it's just sedating and calming. Bout it. People look for more than what it offers, and end up taking 30mg of xanax, looking for some "high" which I doubt they'd remember if they somehow achieved it.
 
This thread is an example of why one should not try to get high off benzos. Granted if there is zero tolerance, and one pops fresh (benzos shelf life is critical for getting 'high' IME) benzos than euphoria can certainly be felt. But if you keep on dosing looking for that initial euphoria you are sliding down a slippery slope that will end in 1) amnesia 2) doing stupid things while blacked out 3) death due to you stop breathing. People often combine alcohol with benzos to increase the euphoria, this is a terrible choice and even one experienced with these things is always treading thin ice. If you must, just smoke marijuana or eat mushrooms to have a giddy goofy time with moderate safe doses of benzos.

My 2 cents.
 
ou CANNOT get high on benzos.

I tend to agree with this. I can't discount the fact that there are plenty of people who find benzos recreational, but I think what lolwhatsdrugs has said is spot on. Well, at least it's in line with my experience.

I just wouldn't use the word "high" to describe benzos effects. At the correct amount they take away anxiety. That's what they do. If there's no anxiety to take away, then all you can do is take large amounts which will have detrimental effects on memory, motor coordination, etc but these are things that the user doesn't even feel or realise is happening.

For all the threads with people saying they took 40mg clonazepam (that's a massive dose) and feel nothing, I bet they couldn't talk in a straight line or even remember writing anything in these threads.

take some xanax and drink some wine, now that's fun

Terrible advice. And this is from a BL Ambassador?!
 
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