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Why do people mix MDMA with alcohol

Never really drink with mdma except for last time were half a litre of vodka was polished off. Got absalutly nothing from the alcohol was basicly an mdma high while unable to walk. Think I'll stick with bud for now.
 
I never drink liquor while rolling I find that beer tastes particularly bitter even more so then while being sober. Now sober I will drink the shit out of some beer!!
 
I had a friend almost die last weekend on this combo..while waiting for her rolls, she drank 24 (yes 24) beers before popping 2 pills. I walked with her to the DJ in the club before she collapsed on the floor. One of her friends and I rushed to the nearest 7-11 to get some bread and milk (to absorb the alcohol and induce vomiting). I think that's what saved her..

Very DANGEROUS combination especially in those amounts.

~caldoche1
 
I just thought it made the roll less powerful, something I would never risk doing :P
 
felixdahousekat said:
^ HELLO???????????

I don't think you can blame 'the combo' after 24 beers. 8( 8( 8(
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Exactly.

Also, ifonly, quad-dropping doesnt sound to smart either, so dont be so quick to blame the alcohol.

The amount of alcohol is very important, for every beer i get atleast 2 glasses of water as the next two drinks to stay hydrated, and i dont drink ridiculous amounts either, if you dont have the self control then the combo isn't for you. I do believe that a few drinks makes the roll more enjoyable however. I dont drink very much after i've dumped the first pill.
 
is the consensus that A COUPLE of drinks beforehand make for a better roll?
i was also under the impression that alcohol leads to more mdma getting absorbed in the bloodsstream, and this has been mentioned by a few others in the thread and there have been counter-points as well but no one has really confirmed it.
i am a diabetic and prescribed benzos so im always weary about how much i drink anyways...
so, leaving benzos out of it, would a couple glasses of wine make the roll more messy or, more enjoyable?
sorry if any of that doesnt make sense...
 
Rated E said:
Exactly.

Also, ifonly, quad-dropping doesnt sound to smart either, so dont be so quick to blame the alcohol.

The amount of alcohol is very important, for every beer i get atleast 2 glasses of water as the next two drinks to stay hydrated, and i dont drink ridiculous amounts either, if you dont have the self control then the combo isn't for you. I do believe that a few drinks makes the roll more enjoyable however. I dont drink very much after i've dumped the first pill.
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if a person dosent have self control they shouldnt do any drugs, and hes right, the amount of beer matters more than the amount of x when mixing them
 
I always have a shot of vodka and Hieniken after I take a pill. I always get anxious when Im coming up and it kills a good part of the anxiety for me.
 
lionstarmike said:
is the consensus that A COUPLE of drinks beforehand make for a better roll?
i was also under the impression that alcohol leads to more mdma getting absorbed in the bloodsstream, and this has been mentioned by a few others in the thread and there have been counter-points as well but no one has really confirmed it.
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FULL ARTICLE: http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/300/1/236

Subjective effects have been shown (in a handful of articles) to be enhanced by a small dose of alcohol - though whether this is due to a pharmacokinetic interaction or the alcohol providing a sedative (and anxiolytic) effect in the come-up, I don't know. In my opinion, it's difficult to distinguish where the drug effects end, and where psychological perception of change begins.

As has already been mentioned though, moderation is the key.

If you're interested in the longer-term effects to your health, there's a series of articles looking at the immunosuppressant qualities of MDMD-alcohol interactions and the observed fall in T-cell counts.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=11f8b7e8a989c5e6665957053a07703d

In terms of settling the arguments about long-term health problems, there has been a fairly recent article released that examined the alcohol-MDMA interaction on rats, and proposed a model suggesting that hippocampel damage occurs due to this interaction (as opposed to using MDMA alone).

In short, nobody really knows for certain what the interaction is doing, but if you're someone who judges danger based on the available information, it might be wise to keep your alcohol intake to a minimum. A couple of beers probably won't do you too much harm. For what it's worth, I'll probably have a maximum of two shots of vodka on a night where I expect to take pills.
 
We usually have a few drinks before dropping, then once coming up lay off the alcohol completely.

There is nothing worse than being hungover the next day after taking E also.

You feel like shit!
 
caldoche1 said:
I had a friend almost die last weekend on this combo..while waiting for her rolls, she drank 24 (yes 24) beers before popping 2 pills. I walked with her to the DJ in the club before she collapsed on the floor. One of her friends and I rushed to the nearest 7-11 to get some bread and milk (to absorb the alcohol and induce vomiting). I think that's what saved her..

Very DANGEROUS combination especially in those amounts.

~caldoche1
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Dude, next time your friend collapses, get her to the hospital, don't go to the fucking 7-11. Please? :)

And I concur with previous poster that she drank too much. It happens. It doesn't mean that MDMA+alcohol is bad in moderation.

Remember, just because a number of people who died from MDMA had also taken alcohol, you can't necessarily conclude that alcohol was part of the cause of death. LOTS of people drink alcohol while taking MDMA, so it would be incredibly surprising if alcohol wasn't found in the bloodstream of some of those who've died from MDMA. It could very easily be coincidence.
 
caldoche1 said:
I had a friend almost die last weekend on this combo..while waiting for her rolls, she drank 24 (yes 24) beers before popping 2 pills. I walked with her to the DJ in the club before she collapsed on the floor. One of her friends and I rushed to the nearest 7-11 to get some bread and milk (to absorb the alcohol and induce vomiting). I think that's what saved her..

Very DANGEROUS combination especially in those amounts.

~caldoche1
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me and my girlfriend will split a 6-pack of beer while rolling, but a 24-pack??? your friend had enough beer "in her" for 7-8 people to have that combo, thats like saying "my friend died of a heart attack after he sniffed 1/2 a kilo of coke"
 
305roller said:
me and my girlfriend will split a 6-pack of beer while rolling, but a 24-pack??? your friend had enough beer "in her" for 7-8 people to have that combo, thats like saying "my friend died of a heart attack after he sniffed 1/2 a kilo of coke"
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yeah i agree, 24 beers is excessive, its more than enought to throw up or pass out, but add mdma and your asking for some serious trouble.
for everyone who reads this post- im not here to tell u what to do, it makes no difference to me, but mdma and liquor, no matter how much or how little you ingest, do not go well together, mdma is a stimulant, and liquor is a depressent, common sense tells you that a depressent and a stimulant are opposite of each other, so why would you mix opposite drugs? But like i said, do whatever you want, but just keep in mind that even if u go throught the night without passing out or whatever, the mdma that you felt was far less than what it wouldve been without liquor
 
^^ Yes its been established that MDMA is a stimulant (among other things) and alcohol is a depressant. However, in my experience i've enjoyed my rolls more when they were accompianed by a few drinks. It helps the anxiety on the come up and makes the come down easier. Like i said, no need to go overboard, just a few. Also, a 'few' drinks is a relative amount, its different for everyone. I consider 4 or 5 drinks before a roll a 'few' but others may not.
 
anxiety on the come up? not me
anyway, i also consider about 5-6 beers as a few, but i suppose there is no "absolute law" when it comes to mixing drugs, since its different for everyone, im just telling you what ive read, and been told by litterally EVERYONE who cared enough to give me thier opinion on this subject, anyway,who needs beer when youve got weed, weed is the only thing i mix with my mdma
 
Yea i get a little anxiety on the come up if im in a club. I dont know why, i worry that the bouncers will know im buckled or something so i try to act like im not fucked up and my worrying delays the come up. I generally get a little bit of social anxiety so i guess thats where it comes from, anyway the alcohol helps get rid of those worrying thoughts that i get in those situations (which are present between when i dump the first pill and when it kicks in).

EDIT: I have a similar situation to what Halcyon described. Its not always necessarily worrying about bouncers or whatever, ill also keep looking at the time, trying to figure out when i should be coming up, or ill check my pockets fairly often to make sure i havent lost anything. I dunno if anyone else gets this kind of thing, maybe its because im generally prone to worrying (one of the reasons i love ecstasy :)) and waiting for the come up just magnifies that personality trait.
 
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For me a few drinks beforehand really does help my roll. Even if it just chills me and stops me looking at my watch & worrying about when I'm going to come up. Otherwise if I get in the club blind sober and then drop I feel like I'm waiting around for it.
I'd stop drinking booze at least an hour before dropping and be drinking good amounts of water after
 
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